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Ignacio Peña, Singularity University, XPRIZE, Wharton with Futurist Ian Khan

In this episode, i speak with Ignacio Peña

Bio

Ignacio Peña is a strategist, an innovator, an advisor and an international speaker. He founded Surfing Tsunamis, a catalyst of abundance, inclusion and regeneration based on the power of transformational innovation. Recent initiatives range from putting in motion Open Space (the youth space program), designing a 35 acre innovation park in the heart of a mega-city and proposing a global Inclusion Moonshot to G20 leaders, to supporting senior leaders to reinvent global organizations and helping highly disruptive entrepreneurs to launch their startups. Ignacio catalyzed the first major Singularity University event in Latin America, co-founded a leading angel investor fund in Argentina, with a portfolio of over 20 disruptive global startups (one of which is already a multi-billion dollar unicorn), and created the first MOOC focused on technology entrepreneurship in Latin America.

Previously, Ignacio worked for over 15 years as strategic consultant for leading corporations, governments, NGOs and associations. He was Partner and Managing Director of The Boston Consulting Group based in Brazil and at Booz & Co. He executed over 100 projects in more than a dozen sectors, was involved in M&A transactions worth over US$5B and has deep experience in strategy, innovation, corporate development and large-scale transformations.

Ignacio is Lecturer at the Wharton School and was selected Bold Innovator at XPRIZE in 2016, when he designed a global prize to make nutritious food ultra-affordable everywhere. He published articles in a range of international media, including the Huffington Post and the Financial Times. He holds an MSc in Economics from UCA, an MBA from the Wharton School, an MA in International Studies from the University of Pennsylvania.

About After Shock

The world’s foremost futurists reflect on 50 years of Future Shock—and look ahead to the next 50

Contributors include:

Alan Kay
Aaron Frank
Adrienne Mayor
Alexander Mankowsky
Alexandra Ivanovitch
Alisha Bhagat
Amy Zalman
Anders Sorman-Nilsson
Andra Keay
Andrew Curry
Andy Hines
Anita Sengupta
Anne Lise Kjaer
Aris Persidis
Aubrey de Grey
Barry O’Reilly
Barry Vacker
Bill Davidow
Bill Diamond
Bryan Alexander
Byron Reese
Carlos Osorio
Carver Mead
Cat Tully
Cindy Frewen
Clem Bezold
Daniel Burrus
Daniel Levine
David Brin
David Guston
David Krakauer
David J. Staley
David Weinberger
Deb Westphal
Diane M. Francis
Donna Dupont
Eleanor “Nell” Watson
Eric Daimler
Erica Bol
Erik Qualman
Fotis Sotiropoulos
George Gilder
Grady Booch
Gray Scott
Hannes Sjoblad
Harish Natarajan
Hazel Henderson
Helen Messier
Ian Khan
Ignacio Pena
Jack Uldrich
James Canton
Jane McGonigal
Jason Jackson
Jason Schenker
Jay Gambetta
Jeff Eisenach
Jeffrey C. Bauer
Jerome Glenn
Jerry Fishenden
Joe Dispenza
Joe Tankersley
Joel Garreau
John L. Petersen
John M. Smart
John Sack
John Sanei
John Schroeter
Jonathan Venn
José Morey
Kaitlyn Sadtler
Kirk Borne
Klee Irwin
Kris Østergaard
Lisa Bodell
Maciej Kranz
Martin Guigui
Martin Rees
Maggie Greyson
Michael Tomczyk
Michel Laberge
Mick Ebeling
Moon Ribas
Naveen Jain
Neil Jacobstein
Newt Gingrich
Patricia Lustig & Gill Ringland
Paul Saffo
Paul Stimers
Po Bronson & Arvind Gupta
Ray Kurzweil
Rebecca Costa
Richard Browning
Richard Slaughter
Richard Watson
Richard Yonck
Rodrigo Nieto Gómez
Rohit Bhargava
Ross Dawson
Ruth Miller
Sanjiv Chopra & Pankaj K Vij
Sohail Inayatullah
Sridhar Mahadevan
Stan Rosen
Stephanie Mehta
Steve Waite
Tanya Accone
Terrence (Terry) Sejnowski
Teun Koetsier
Theodore Jay Gordon
Thomas Frey
Timothy Chou
Vikram Mansharamani
Wolfgang Fengler
Zoltan Istvan

Publication Details
ISBN Print: 978-0-9997364-4-9
ISBN eBook: 978-0-9997364-5-6

Full Transcript : Hi friends this is Ian Khan and you’re listening to the Ian Khan show. This is an aftershock special episode and I’m speaking with a co contributor to the recent book aftershock. I’m speaking with Ignacio Pena today and he’s a strategist and investor and international speaker strategic advisor to senior leaders, startups, corporations and governments. He’s also the founder and CEO of surfing tsunamis a catalyst of abundance, inclusion and regeneration through high impact initiatives and transformational innovation NAS who is also lecturer at Wharton and faculty at Singularity University.

Let’s speak with Ignacio Ignacio Pena Welcome to the Ian Khan show a very warm welcome and you are in Buenos Aires, Argentina. Tell us how is life down there because I am freezing here in Canada. beautiful weather. Very happy to be here with you. Excellent. So Ignacio, just for our viewers. This conversation is happening because you and I both are part of Aftershock this amazing book that john Schroeder put together 50 other futurists from the world are part of this. They have written their thoughts ideas about Alvin Toffler, Heidi Toffler, their book Future Shock, and really what the future is all about unprecedented change. And we’re living in that era of unprecedented change today. 2020 has been marked as the year off, I’m marking it as a Europe of COVID-19. And this is one of the biggest changes that I believe has occurred in humanity. Let’s talk about Toffler, let’s talk about the future. Let’s talk about things that we can change and things we should look forward to in the future. Tell me a little bit about yourself. I’ve read your article in the book. And the book starts off with Where there is no vision the people perish. Proverbs 2918 that’s the start off your chapter. Tell us your relationship with change. Fantastic. Let me tell you a little bit about myself. And the way I see the future. Then I studied economics, I worked for 15 years in strategy consulting firms at Booz Allen Hamilton and then for 2030 years at the Boston Consulting Group based in Brazil, leading the strategy practice area in Latin America and working for that period with about 100 in 100 project for large corporate clients focused mostly on on growth strategies. Then the last 10 years, I came back to George and Tina and I’ve been working focused on innovation. Basically, I came back to India, so the country in very bad shape, and that’s myself, okay, how can I get back? How can I contribute? If I don’t do that? Why would expect anybody else to do it? Because I’m in a privileged position. So for several years, I’ve worked for free on trying to find an answer worries hope for a country like Argentina, where is hope for a region like Latin America and the Caribbean? And basically, the answer that I came up with was it suddenly it’s not in raw materials, hope, I think that that faces makes a massive tsunami of change, like climate change, aging population, fast pace automation comes from the massive technology revolution that we are seeing unfold, powered by exponential technologies like artificial intelligence, mobile, telecommunications, synthetic biology, free printing, face technology, things like this. And basically, what I saw was that the cost of innovation has fallen dramatically, and access to global markets has increased and today’s accessible by anyone, every everywhere. So basically, what I saw was that there was an opportunity to catalyze a better future for Latin America. And and also, I think that is applicable for the world, I see the opportunity for a future of abundance, inclusion and regeneration, so dramatically improving our standard of living eradicating poverty and creating a more inclusive society and turning the clock back on environmental destruction. I am basically I’ve been working the basket that 10 years to catalyze that future by transforming and helping to transform a Latin American region of innovation, and also by working to activate the industries of the future. But I think that many of the challenges that America faces today are also faced by other Western countries like like the United States and Europe, I think that we have a massive opportunity ahead. And we’re really not tackling it in a proper way. I think that we should really be bolder in terms of embracing the change that is coming. And basically, in terms of what we see today, you were mentioning the COVID crisis. I agree with you it is a significant challenge. But but it’s only a prologue of the change that is coming our way. I think it’s a perfect case for future shock. I think that change is unfolding at a faster pace than we can recognize or actually adapt to. And this is, I think, a case of Future Shock. And I would argue that the way out of users are the antidote for a future show is hope and empathy and and sort of a bold vision that allows us to come out of those holes, serve those tsunamis that are coming our way and build a better future together. Incredible. Thank you so much, that really summarizes a lot of things and helps it ends Stand where you’ve come from now you’ve also been part of X PRIZE you you have a few initiatives that are on your website as well. Tell us about that. Yeah. So basically in this 10 years as a catalyst, I’ve been doing lots of things I invested in 25 startups together with friends and we, I mean, out of that we already have one unicorn and others that may become unicorns. I help policymakers to mean design strategies of how to turn one Osiris into a hub for innovation, entrepreneurship and technology and faculty at Singularity University. I helped singularity to do some of the first events in Latin America and internationally Actually, I’m also lecturer at Wharton. And I’m basically do a course together with a friend and a professor from Wharton called no Kapoor, we do a course on technology, entrepreneurship, and innovation in Latin American in Argentina, and Chile now, specifically, and now I’m an advisor, also to startups and to other corporations. And I did work with with experts. Basically, I gathered together a group of 35 people, we all put some money. And we basically work together with XPrize to design a concept that I then scale to another level in a proposal for the G 20. And the concept was basically the abundance games which appear in a global competition to basically put the power of innovation at the service of the most vulnerable by catalyzing innovations that would make fresh, nutritious food affordable everywhere. But then not not just food, but also other concepts. So with the sign that concept, it hasn’t been turned into a reality yet. But as I mentioned, I later took that concept and presented it an even bolder idea, which was the inclusion moonshot for the mean, during the Z 20. organization here in Buenos Aires, unfortunately, it didn’t turn out into a reality, but I keep working on it. Yeah. So basically, I see an opportunity to pull the power of innovation at the service of this patient of inclusion, abundance, inclusion and regeneration, you talk a lot about and you just mentioned it as well, you talk about hope and empathy. So let’s talk about that. You know, today, we are definitely look at technology as a big enabler to do many things, whether it’s, you know, utilizing the power of data, and then doing something with AI technology, blockchain chain technology, whatever technology to extract value from data, we can look at automation, we’re looking at so many different things that are hopefully planned, many entrepreneurs are working on it. You know, you mentioned the unicorn and unicorns and stuff. What about hoping empathy? Do you believe that technology and the fact that future sharp, the rapid change of things is lacks empathy and hope? I think that doesn’t necessarily lack empathy and hope? When you see, for example, Elon Musk, creating SpaceX and Tesla, I think his basic premise or question was, what is the most positive thing or contribution that AI can do for humanity. And that has led to amazing results. And I would argue that is sort of the purpose driven, Human Centered sort of approach is that I think we should have I think that we should not fall into sort of idolatry of technology as technology will save us think that technology offers us incredible tools. And I would argue sort of the paintings and the brushes that we need to paint a better future. But in order to make a masterpiece of the future, I think that we have to put, we have to have a human centered you. And if you look at me, in a very pragmatic view, at work innovation community is doing right now, I think that in a way it is doing that, when, for example, we see design thinking, which is an empathy driven sort of methodology, a flourish. So I think that it’s there. But I think that we could put it more in the center, and we could translate it also into public policies and into bolder patience. I think that he could also be more at the center of sort of corporations that are acquired large corporations, which I think that by large, have have lost sight of their purpose and need to rethink their purpose in the new context. In the next decade, we’re going to see more change that humanity has ever seen, unless you step back and sort of you think about how this creation, this corporation can be useful for people and can really improve lives in the most positive way, I think that it’s unlikely that you’re going to find the strength to renew that company. So at any rate, it’s empathy and hope a but within sort of the market driven societies. I think that the possibilities there, the reality is there. But but I think we I mean, we could have I mean, if we want to step out of sort of fear, a place of fear and sort of lack of hope. We need to think about how we can be useful for others and also touch base with the fact that there are people that are in a much worse position that we are, so people are afraid of coming out, for example of their houses fine, I understand that I think we should stay home and be safe. But at the same time, we should remember that, for example, the policies that are lockdown policies that we’re implementing are expected to increase the number of hunger deaths these days. From 150 million to 265 million 430 million people are going to die for from hunger only this year due to loose economic policies. And I would argue that, that if we looked at this with empathy and we thought about those people, then we would probably look for solutions that take those people into consideration and Modi in a better place. So you’ve said that 135 million people across the world are going to die because of hunger this year in 2020 135 million, an additional 130 5 million. So the expectation is it will go from 130 million to 265. Approximately, let’s start with 130. The lower point 130 million, we’re also living in the era of COVID-19, 2020, we cannot ignore it COVID-19 has been everywhere. And although it’s a pandemic, that’s claiming a lot of lies, I think worldwide, the toll is around 150, less than 200,000, isn’t it? America is at 80,000 right now, plus the others from Europe, you know, 150,000, approximately, and the coverage that COVID-19 is getting is it has taken over everybody’s life. We all are checking the News, the news is talking about COVID-19 24. Seven, how how can we even compare that with 135 million lives that are lost every year? But we don’t hear about it? And why is that? I mean, if you look at the massive problems that humanity is facing things like climate change, like aging population, I would argue sort of drug addictions, I mean, all these things have to do with selfishness that way they generate or too much debt in the world has to do with a generation that has sort of, in a way mortgage the future without consideration for the next generation, right. So everything is valid in order to optimize your present. And as indeed, it has been doing that for 90 years. And the results have been horrendous. Yeah, a way to come out of that is to think about our children, and to think about, okay, how can we leave a better future for them? I would, I would argue that that sort of empathy. And when we think about sort of hunger, as you were saying, We’re not talking about that, I would, I would argue that that’s lack of empathy. Yeah. Yeah. Like, oh, they’re, they’re dying, but they’re far away. And it’s not okay. You know, it’s not okay. You also talk about the concept of air. I really like it. Tell our viewers a little bit about your concept of air. Yes. So I mean, in a time of crisis, we all feel sort of suffocating. It’s like, a thing that I would argue that humanity needs Air and Air is abundance, inclusion and regeneration. And it connects back to what you were saying, people without a vision shall perish. I think this is something that we known for 1000s of years. And today, we’re lacking this vision, we’re lacking sort of the Apollo program kind of mindset of let’s go for the moon. But let’s go for the moon in terms of creating a better society create a better society, not by going to socialism, or things that have failed. But by using the power of innovation to create this future of abundance, inclusion and regeneration in terms of abundance, we have an opportunity to make a step change in productivity, and basically unlock growth engines that can add three to 5% growth per year. And if you take one example, artificial intelligence, I mean, it’s supposed to mean has the potential to add 1% of GDP growth per year for the coming years 1.2% that compares to 0.3% of the steam engine. And so it’s several times more powerful than the steam engine. And it makes sense because I mean, the steam engine basically allowed us to augment our muscle that artificial intelligence will help us to augment our brains, right? So add to that the possibility of digital services of telework on a massive scale. Add to that things like intrapreneur innovation add to that electric mobility in renewable energies, synthetic biology, and so for industry 4.0 and you have the possibility to create a future of abundance. Yeah, then let’s take inclusion. In terms of inclusion, we could make basic necessities several times cheaper than than what they are today. So take food for example, imagine the impact that for example, alternative proteins is going to have which require much less land much less water than traditional agriculture is going to have in terms of making meet and basic commodities, food commodities more affordable. Or imagine, for example, creating applications that would allow I mean, most of the people that have hungry today are smallholder farmers in Africa or Asia. Imagine creating artificial intelligence applications or applications in smartphones that will be accessible to these people that allow them to apply permacultural techniques like having an assistant that teaches them how to walk them step by step to create a sort of to apply these these techniques that we know can produce abundance of food, even in harsh environments, so that they can multiply their yields without having tractors or fertilizers or things like this and in terms of regeneration, if you think about the power of renewables, solar win. But then also compact fusion, for example, combat nuclear fusion, if you think about the power of bioplastic. So we have the possibility to actually turn the clock back and heal them by when I mean electric cars today are already cheaper if you don’t take the perspective of total car ownership, total cost of ownership are cheaper than conventional cars, and they’re going to become much cheaper. So this vision of air is possible is just that there are massive resistances to this change. And sometimes there is also the lack of strategic planning and sort of a productive road to make those things happen. I think Ignacio also mentioned that, you know, you’re an investor and you work with startup companies. And I really believe the future is in the hands of companies and innovators that are solving some big problems with the simplest of solutions, right? That’s I mean, simplicity is the key. But it’s also addressing these problems that nobody’s looking at. You also mentioned a little bit of that in, in your chapter and aftershock where you’re talking about technologies, such as 5g technologies in Africa that are making a change on the ground in Latin America, tell us a little bit about what are you seeing happening in the startup ecosystem, generally, not just as an investor, but as an innovator yourself and as an investor as well, like, what is going on there? Well, if you look at there’s a global startup revolution taking place. And basically we’re seeing sort of innovation come out of Silicon Valley, and spread throughout the United States, we have seen the emergence of several sort of startup ecosystems in places like New York or in Colorado or in Miami, there’s also a new ecosystem, there are many places that were throughout the United States where this is happening, but also outside outside of the US. So clearly, in Israel, this began I mean, early Israel has been sort of a an early starter in this. But then, if you look at China, for example, to a Chinese is, has a venture capital industry that is similar to the US. And this has happened over the course of 10 years. And thinking is happening, although I am sad to say that a smaller scale, in Latin America, I mean, Latin America, the venture capital ecosystem has multiplied is growing at 100% per year today is at about a $4 billion, the potential is four $400 billion per year. And we already have clear demonstrations of sort of the the potential of the ecosystem to create value at a large scale. So we have for example, Mercado Libre, which is worth around $40 billion, and basically, is a company out of Wuhan Osiris, that when people come to the water, students come to see this, they can believe it. It’s really, really a massive company. And they’re just starting, or if you look at, for example, so the logic, a company that I’m collaborating with, I helped to sort of do their friend to do some of their first rounds and an investor also, and then they basically, and they’re three blocks away from my house here in Palermo. And basically, they they created satellites cost hundreds of 1000s of dollars instead of hundreds of millions of dollars. And they’ve been doing that this for several years. They were very good. I think that’s something like 12 satellites in space, but they’re creating a constellation of over 200 satellites in space to provide high resolution imagery of every point on the earth. Yeah, near real time. So basically, what we’re seeing is that even in sort of deep tech spaces, it is possible to innovate from a remote places in economic environments like Argentina, so if it can be done in Argentina can be done anywhere. Yeah, excellent. And I think that gives the opportunity for emerging countries to rethink their position in the world. I would argue that we’re seeing this happening in China. If you look at sort of the growth engines that I was mentioning there, I would say there are 10 growth chains, like things like e commerce, like mobile payments, artificial intelligence, we say this, renewables, you see that China has been very strategically taking an unfair share of each of industry industries, due to strategic foresight. And I think that it’s very important that the rest of the world sort of catches up with this mindset and begins to claim their share of the future, putting the future on top of the past. So giving priority to the future rather than the past. I want to talk a little bit about how digital transformation and we’ve been hearing digital transformation for years. I mean, it’s unbelievable sometimes to think that we’re still using so much paper in industries or there’s so much inefficiency in many different industries from accounting to banking to health care, name it, there’s inefficiency in the system, no matter what technologies such as, say blockchain are pushing the limit a little bit to help us accelerate or a very simple example is just digital, you know, conferencing, web conferencing, many people are now jumping on board and people are working remote. So this this whole era of digital revolution is now being accelerated because humanity is being pressured or humanity’s being pushed in a certain direction by COVID-19, especially in 20 2020. Tell our viewers, give us your piece on what digital transformation should mean like, should companies jump into digital solutions? Can we trust digital solutions, many startups are creating new platforms and stuff, I want our viewers to understand that there’s a sea of solutions out there, and it’s time to jump into it. Absolutely, there are people who think that rises will be sort of an opportunity to go back to the past. And I think that it’s on the contrary, in every three, one of the fields that I mentioned, what we’re seeing is sort of the future a coming faster than than before. So if you see, for example, the share of ecommerce over retail sales in the US, we’re seeing a massive jump, if we see telework, I mean, we see soon the platform that we’re using multiplied by 30, the number of users in less than six months. So we’re seeing these in a VC renewables, they’re not taking such a big hit as, as fossil fuels, if we see automation is actually accelerating the demand for sort of electric cars. And I mean, in all these areas, we’re seeing sort of the future and a plane at fast forward speed. Okay. So I think that it’s if the case was there, in the past, it’s only grown bigger. But I would argue that that digital transformation is really probably not the best the best concept we did a course a few years back in Miami with several owners and CEOs of some of the largest groups in Latin America. And we spoke about sort of disruptive innovation, but also digital transformation. And when we saw when we were discussing digital transformation, I would say that the energy level was lower versus when when we think in terms of techniques and sort of disruptive innovation. And I think that is the problem with digital transformation is that it’s maybe not bold enough in the sense that sometimes people take digital transformation for as being a Oh, I’ll do the same thing as in the past, but I’ll do it in a digital channel, and then you’re not really getting it, what you need to think about is that your entire industry and the boundaries of your industry are going to be redefined. And you have to sort of look at your the playing field in a new way and suddenly take into consideration that digital is taking over the world. I mean, take an example. ecommerce, take another example, digital payments. This is just beginning. But it’s I mean, it’s going to explode also realize that sometimes emerging countries, even in Africa are ahead of developing countries in this space. So for example, Kenya is ahead of the US in terms of the penetration of mobile payments relative to GDP, China is way ahead of the US in terms of mobile payments. And this also allows us to have more synergy about the fact that this is coming. So first of all, we have to realize that this is coming in a huge way. It’s coming faster than than what we imagined. And you need to take digital transformation in a sort of a disruptive way in a in a way that is very fundamental and totally redefined the way that you work and centered on the idea that software is eating the world and this technology, exponential technologies allow us to redefine all the industries. So if you’re not going to be disrupting, you’re going to be disrupted. Absolutely. If you’re not disrupting you’re going to be disrupted. So we’re out of time. I really appreciate you jumping on board on the Ian Khan show. Tell us where our viewers and listeners can find you. If you have a website. My website is suffering genomics.com and you can also find me in my email address is a P and a dot A Ignacio IGN a cio@icloud.com all right pena ignacio@icloud.com. Ignacio, thank you so much. Stay safe. And I hope you’re able to join us again in the future. I really appreciate your time. Goodbye from us and enjoy your time. And thank you so much. Thank you and I look forward to another opportunity and it was a big pleasure. You’re very welcome. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Ignacio. Hey, friend, this is Ian Khan. If you like what you saw on my video, then please subscribe to my YouTube channel and be inspired every single day with innovative content that keeps you fresh, updated and ready for the future. For more information. Also visit my website at Ian khan.com

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Cat Tully, Founder School of International Futures, with Futurist Ian Khan

In this episode, i speak with Cat Tully, an accomplished Futurist and Educator.

Bio

Cat Tully is the founder of SOIF, the School of International Futures. Cat has extensive experience as a practitioner, helping governments, civil society and businesses to be more strategic, more effective, and better prepared for the future. She is motivated by a focus on social justice and the importance of multi-stakeholder approaches to the challenges of the 21st century world.

Prior to setting up SOIF, Cat was Strategy Project Director at the UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office, and Senior Policy Adviser in the Prime Minister’s Strategy Unit under Tony Blair and Gordon Brown. Before working in government, she worked in strategy and international relations across the not-for-profit and business sectors, including Christian Aid, Technoserve, and Procter and Gamble. Cat has also worked for the UN, the EU Commission and the World Bank.

Cat has degrees from Cambridge and Princeton Universities. She is a trustee of the Foundation for Democracy and Sustainable Development, a global board member of Academics Stand Against Poverty, a member of United Nations Learning Advisory Council for the 2030 Agenda, and a member of the Advisory Group of the British Foreign Policy Group.

About After Shock

The world’s foremost futurists reflect on 50 years of Future Shock—and look ahead to the next 50

Contributors include:

Alan Kay
Aaron Frank
Adrienne Mayor
Alexander Mankowsky
Alexandra Ivanovitch
Alisha Bhagat
Amy Zalman
Anders Sorman-Nilsson
Andra Keay
Andrew Curry
Andy Hines
Anita Sengupta
Anne Lise Kjaer
Aris Persidis
Aubrey de Grey
Barry O’Reilly
Barry Vacker
Bill Davidow
Bill Diamond
Bryan Alexander
Byron Reese
Carlos Osorio
Carver Mead
Cat Tully
Cindy Frewen
Clem Bezold
Daniel Burrus
Daniel Levine
David Brin
David Guston
David Krakauer
David J. Staley
David Weinberger
Deb Westphal
Diane M. Francis
Donna Dupont
Eleanor “Nell” Watson
Eric Daimler
Erica Bol
Erik Qualman
Fotis Sotiropoulos
George Gilder
Grady Booch
Gray Scott
Hannes Sjoblad
Harish Natarajan
Hazel Henderson
Helen Messier
Ian Khan
Ignacio Pena
Jack Uldrich
James Canton
Jane McGonigal
Jason Jackson
Jason Schenker
Jay Gambetta
Jeff Eisenach
Jeffrey C. Bauer
Jerome Glenn
Jerry Fishenden
Joe Dispenza
Joe Tankersley
Joel Garreau
John L. Petersen
John M. Smart
John Sack
John Sanei
John Schroeter
Jonathan Venn
José Morey
Kaitlyn Sadtler
Kirk Borne
Klee Irwin
Kris Østergaard
Lisa Bodell
Maciej Kranz
Martin Guigui
Martin Rees
Maggie Greyson
Michael Tomczyk
Michel Laberge
Mick Ebeling
Moon Ribas
Naveen Jain
Neil Jacobstein
Newt Gingrich
Patricia Lustig & Gill Ringland
Paul Saffo
Paul Stimers
Po Bronson & Arvind Gupta
Ray Kurzweil
Rebecca Costa
Richard Browning
Richard Slaughter
Richard Watson
Richard Yonck
Rodrigo Nieto Gómez
Rohit Bhargava
Ross Dawson
Ruth Miller
Sanjiv Chopra & Pankaj K Vij
Sohail Inayatullah
Sridhar Mahadevan
Stan Rosen
Stephanie Mehta
Steve Waite
Tanya Accone
Terrence (Terry) Sejnowski
Teun Koetsier
Theodore Jay Gordon
Thomas Frey
Timothy Chou
Vikram Mansharamani
Wolfgang Fengler
Zoltan Istvan

Publication Details
ISBN Print: 978-0-9997364-4-9
ISBN eBook: 978-0-9997364-5-6

Full Transcript : Hi friends this is Ian Khan and you’re watching the Ian Khan show today. It’s a special episode of The aftershock series where I interview a co contributor to the recent book aftershock. In today’s episode, I’m speaking with Cat Tully, who’s the founder of the School of International futures, running strategic foresight projects and retreats across the world with 600 alumni in 50 countries. Let’s speak with Cat.

Cat welcome to the Ian Khan show. I’m so excited to have you here today. First of all, you’re incredible. Your work is incredible. And also you are a contributor to aftershock. Now, let me give a quick overview to our listeners and our viewers on what aftershock is 50 plus futurists off today’s era came together and wrote their thoughts and ideas about the book, Future Shock, written by Alvin Toffler, one of the greatest visionaries of the world and in the past, and he wrote a book called Future Shock 50 years ago in which he predicted the future talked about tomorrow talked about the current era today. And here we are talking about him in this book, thank you for being on the show. How are you? I’m very well, thank you very much. Thank you so much for inviting me to join you. It’s great for me, thank you. It’s our pleasure. Let’s do this help us understand what you do. Who are you as a futurist and and what domains Do you work in? Because your bio is so impressive, I don’t know which parts to touch in which not to? Let’s hear it from you? Well, first of all, I’ll probably say that I wouldn’t call myself a futurist. And I’ve been lucky to spend quite a lot of my career working with futurists, but I’ve worked mainly in strategy and decision making, and particularly in governments. So I’m really interested in how you use insights from futurists about thinking about the future to make better decisions today, and especially in the government space, whether it’s national security, proliferation, climate change inequality, how can we actually create better policy decisions as governments as communities, at the city level, but also at the UN level. So that’s very much my area of focus. I used to work in the UK government, in the Prime Minister’s strategy in it, and in the Foreign Office, policy planning staff, which is the equivalent of your State Department. And as a result of that, I’ve always been really interested in the interplay of looking internationally, and about how the world is changing geopolitically, but also with developing countries, and how that interplays with our experience as nations, as people in the UK, people living in the States, and how those two levels work together, incredible. And there’s so much happening when you look at governments globally. I mean, you’ve touched on something so incredible that it touches all of us, we all are somehow connected to a government or some government, because we use their services, we are part of a country, and so on and so forth. I do a lot of work with governments, myself, I work really closely with the government of the United Arab Emirates. And that’s Dubai, that’s Abu Dhabi and other seven emirates altogether for our listeners who don’t know, and looking at how they run things, and how things are run in the West, how things are run in Estonia, there’s a huge difference in how governments are run. And one of the things that’s very challenging, or I think we need to maybe could create more clarity is government is not necessarily the people who are elected and who are running things right now. But it’s also that framework, the foundation that has been laid down for the last 50 or 100 years. And that’s kind of I always look at things in you know, in that way that government not necessarily is the ruling party right. Now, let’s talk a little bit about strategy we are living in 2020 2020. year is the year of COVID-19 is the year of disruption, where all business models have fallen flat on their face where all strategies have gone through the window. What are you seeing as the disruption that COVID-19 has caused the pandemic has caused from where you see things. So I think that there are different tribes, and how people look at what COVID-19 actually means for the status quo. There’s a group of people that see this as being a huge disruption, the big defining moment of the 21st century that probably is going to take us into the 21st century, it’s the end of the 20th century, beginning genuine beginning of the 21st century, and that this moment is something special, and that what we need to do is repair and go back to the new normal to a form of normal. And then there’s another set of people that I think, see this is one and probably a minor, one of emerging, and subsequent major issues that are coming down the pipeline towards us over the 2020s and 2030s, whether it’s issues around migration, climate change, various kind of geopolitical instabilities and crises, and that it’s the beginning of a new form of sets of insecurities that we’re just going to have to engage with and respond to differently. So depending on how you frame it, I think both your concern, and your responses look very, very different. So what this there’s a concept called the official future in futures work, which is like, what official future did you have in your mind. And very frankly, I personally because of the work that looking at the Sustainable Development Goals, looking at some of the ecological trends that you if you kind of looked at the failure of nation states to grip a lot of these problems, we were on a very bad trajectory. Indeed, in terms of 2030 2040 kind of crises that might be occurring in places like Bangladesh, in across North Africa, the kind of scale of human loss, because of environmental and different crises that we’re facing us could actually genuinely made some really big crises that dwarf COVID-19. And this 2020 is an opportunity for us to think about how we want to build the governance structures at an international and national and especially local community level, to perhaps respond to these kinds of crises in a different way. And really said there’s more than we, honestly, this is mind open conversation here. There’s more issues in the world than we consciously know on an everyday basis. We all know the big ones climate change, yes, of course, pollution. Yes, of course. But there’s issues such as human trafficking, there is issues such as the flesh trade, and so many others that are happening at an invisible level that are connected to all of us, and we all should participate in these issues and try and help and solve and do do what is needed. And the UN I believe, has, I think they have 20, or 21 sustainability goals, I think 17 Sustainable Development Goals. You’re absolutely right. Yeah. interdependent, that interdependent, universal. And they’re basically, I think that the SDG framework, which was developed over 2013 to 2015, including an outreach a public engagement exercise internationally, which was the first of its kind, but also had member states, during some of the framing, it was the first approach to create at a global level, a global vision for what a future of the world might look like if we decide to try and not drive our planet off the cliff, ecologically in terms of rights in terms of inequality. So if you like it’s a kind of aspirational vision for us to try and achieve. And it is universal. It’s interdependent. And it’s complex. It’s a complex systems approach. And I think the UN is, to a certain extent playing catch up around such an ambitious framework. But certainly it’s been I, you know, I see excellent work in New York, for example, they do their city planning around the 17, SDGs. A lot of cities and a lot of regions in Brazil do the same. So it’s a way of making sure that citizens business, civil society, look out to 2030. And instead of just letting governments dictate a straight line and a business as usual trajectory to what the future looks like, it gives them an opportunity to kind of say, Okay, well, if we want to achieve zero hunger, which is one of the goals, how do we Marshal some of the synthetic biology innovations and some of the potential changes in the food sector in order to enable that? What are some of the regulatory innovations that we might need to start thinking about to enable the benefits of this new emerging technology in this field to be distributed? So there’s how do we design supply chains and intellectual property arrangements to ensure that that happens effectively? So these are really interesting. It’s a really interesting and exciting framework within which if we all agree that we want a peaceful, secure, and prosperous future as a globe, and one that’s environmentally secure, not just physically secure, how do we work together to achieve it? Thank you In aftershock I want to talk a little bit about your piece in aftershock this so first of all, I really recommend everybody to get a copy of Aftershock. I believe it’s available on Amazon. It’s 20 or $30. And it’s really an investment that you can do in understanding what’s going on. Everybody in aftershock has a different background, some people are medical doctors, some people are scientists, futures, everybody’s doing something different. And the amount of conversations I’ve had are incredible. So I’m really humbled by what I have seen and what I have talked with people about. That’s part number one, I want to talk about your piece. You talk a lot about philanthropy, you talk about, you know, saving the world, of course, but philanthropy has a big role. Now, in today’s era 2020 COVID-19 crisis has been happening for months and months. One particular person has been surfacing to the top of the news is Bill Gates because he wants to come up with a vaccine. He’s a philanthropist. He’s committed all his billions and trillions to finding a cure. Amazing. I love the story. You’ve got people like Warren Buffett who were committed and they give money. And there’s tons of philanthropist who are literally pouring money into different things. Is that enough? Is the question and what is your take on how philanthropy can help us get better as a world as not just with COVID-19? Absolutely. Thank you for the question. And also, let me just say perhaps now, what a privilege it was to be part of such an illustrious group of futurists. And we are very much a hodgepodge of heterogeneous, perhaps a little bit misfits. What I think what’s interesting about doing futures work is that you had a great quote from Gaston better, you use the future in order to disrupt the present. So I think there’s something really interesting about this interest and yearning to kind of create and understand drivers of change in order to create more opportunities today, and to listen to different voices, who are often at the periphery, seeing weak signals of the future much better than at the center of power. People in their boardrooms, or at number 10, or in the White House are often the last ones to really see the signals of change. So this is I think, what’s exciting about being part of this book, and I really do urge people to read it, because it’s an exciting and extremely varied. Read on the philanthropy piece. First of all, I think it is really interesting to see the roles that philanthropists can have at being the seed funders for structural and systemic change, if you like one of the defining features in a world of uncertainty is paralysis. It’s about overwhelming uncertainty, not knowing what to do apart from continuing with the status quo. And I think what is out and what’s also the case is in a time of crisis, you often have lack of budgets to actually invest to doing new and exciting and different things. So I do think that at this precise moment, but also for the past 10 years philanthropists have, and some of the forward leaning ones have really done a really interesting job at leaning into their potential role for seed funding, systemic change over the long term. What do I mean by that? So you have different organizations and different foundations. And Omidyar network is a really interesting example of that, who like, Well, you know, we want to bring people in a system together, let’s look at water, and what’s happening with water security, all sorts of different actors, from engineers, to the lawyers, to the people who actually the Fisher community, to the people who actually use it for agriculture, and how to actually look at what a sustainable use of water in a certain area might look like, in 1520 years time, and actually funding the system to get together as a whole. And to exchange their views not just on what the problem looks like now, or in the past, water, remember, can often be a driver of conflict as well as other as well as business innovation. But if you actually look at what the potential drivers are looking forward, and develop an approach that a common vision together, as well as be aware of the alternative things that might happen and what your contingency plans collectively as a system might be, then you actually can get some really quite interesting and exciting change. So that’s the kind of potential Another example is I think it’s climate watch, you did some really nice work about bringing together the different foundations that work on climate change, and scientists together globally. And they were like, well, if we’re trying to get to a net zero goal in 2050, what might that glide path look like? How can we get all the different foundations and key actors to think about it and come up with an approach that actually is coordinated and potentially tips the system and innovative approaches? Amazing, I want to read a passage from the book from your chapter, you write that philanthropy now has not just an opportunity, but a responsibility to think and act for the long term this the will to do good in the world is no longer good enough by mainstreaming foresight practice, the sector can make a future friend, not a full in these unquiet and exciting times. And when you wrote that we were not going to the pandemic. So but right on with the future, thinking there that, hey, we’re looking at, we’re living in an quiet time. It’s a time of disruption in many, many ways. You are a practicing futurist, although you don’t like calling yourself that you run the School of International futures. Tell us a little bit about that. What do you do as part of that? institution? So we’re about 25. Amazing and very passionate, committed futurists who want to use foresight approaches to make a better world and to actually embed that into projects and decisions and organizations today, we have some team members in Trinidad and Tobago, all the way through to Asia. And so we are a virtual 21st century organization, but our focus is doing better policy. We are practitioners on policy planning and strategy for future generations. So we’re hoping that by enabling current current decisions makers engage and understand future trends and under put themselves in the shoes of future generations, they can actually act much better to date as stewards for well being in the future. Now, this can take very different kind of forms. And I’d like to share with you perhaps a few examples of some of the work that we’ve done to kind of give you a little bit of flavor of what we’ve done. So you can probably tell by my accent that I’m British, and there is another B word that comes associated with British, which is Brexit. And so about three years ago, we sat down with the Royal Society, to look out at what Brexit different Brexit scenarios might be, for the innovation, the research, the knowledge economy, and the higher education sector in the UK. So at that time, everybody was like, no deadline in three months time, no Cliff in six months time, but we actually looked out 10 years out to 2027. And what’s really valuable was, how interesting that, you know, people were like, these things are definitely not going to happen. And actually, the kind of scenarios that we laid out, were very helpful for the people involved to realize actually to challenge their official view of what they thought was going to happen. And actually, as things progressed, the cone of possibility is actually only increased, didn’t didn’t decrease. We’ve also worked you mentioned UAE, we’ve also worked with the government of Oman, to develop participative scenarios with the Supreme Council of Oman, to develop participant of scenarios for the future of Oman out to 2014. So going around engaging different communities, youth, women, old people just thinking about what’s the desirable future that they want to have on? What’s the alternative possible future given the geopolitical changes? what might happen with the price of oil? what might happen in terms of demographic shifts and shifts in values and beliefs? Now, how can a government both plan for the best and prepare for the worst, if necessary, similarly, we’re doing interesting work with the Gulbenkian foundation in Portugal, looking at intergenerational fairness, and intergenerational fairness is something that is of growing interest. And I think that COVID-19 is just going to put that whole conversation on steroids, which is that there are different countries in which the younger generation feels as if they are hard done by they are on the losing end, or in terms of pensions, inheriting debt, and also in terms of the ecological crisis that they’re facing in the future, and that they’re going to have to clean up. And then if you put the COVID-19. On top of that, where there are heavy economic burdens and costs to restarting the economy that are probably going to fall on the young again, that’s going to be quite problematic. So how do you when a government comes out with a policy? How do you ensure and how do you ask that government, whether that government is is mortgaging my children’s future, or whether it’s a fair policy, in terms of paying for those costs today, that’s what the project is doing. Incredible. And that’s such exciting stuff that you’re doing across the world. And I’m sure there’s many, many others, that’ll happen through the years, I’m so excited to be speaking with you, because I think we’ve captured something that you haven’t been able to talk about before, which is government and how things work within the sector that you mentioned. But I know we’re also out of time cat as an ending and as a parting gift to our viewers, give us maybe one or two points give us maybe one or two or three, whatever you like, how can we create a better future? What’s the easiest process for us to say, Okay, I’m going to think about future scenarios. How can people just do this, I’ve got two points, really, one picks up on your point around government, and one and us as citizens, and one that picks us up as humans, I guess. And in terms of, I think what’s really important is to kind of, we can look at the future as a shiny ball for us to explore and examine and analytically analyze through our through our magnifying glass. But in fact, I would like to put forward a different metaphor, which is the foresight endeavor is actually much more a mirror where we can clearly see ourselves and also see bits of us that we don’t always look at, and in particular, invite people on the periphery or things at the margins to come more clearly interview and speak truth to power. So I think at the end of the day foresight work is actually about power and voice and representation and agency. Because of that, and this is my second point, I actually believe that the capacity to do foresight is a deep capability that is necessary for policymakers. And it’s something that is integral for us to kind of as we’re refreshing democracy and what representative democracy and deliberative democracy looks like in the 21st century as it’s kind of a little bit failing, and it hasn’t quite gripped new potentials to do with technology, as we reimagine what a profound radical democracy looks like the capability of coming together to systematically understand alternative futures, and then build them collectively as a community is a deeply political and empowering act, and fundamentally at the core of the Democratic endeavor. So that’s what we really focus on. And I guess my final points to you, but thank you so much, again, it’s been an absolute pleasure. It’s amazing. Thank you so much, Kat, and where can we find more about you and your work? Is their website? www.sf.org.uk. And please reach out? Yes. Oh, God, org.uk and I’m hoping people do reach out to you, or at least, you know, out of that region to learn more, but folks, please reach out to Kat and her and her team. If you have any questions or you’d like more information, Kat, thank you so much for your time. I really appreciate it. And I wish you an amazing journey had in 2020 and beyond any thanks. It’s been a pleasure. Hey, friend, this is Ian Khan. If you liked what you saw on my video, then please subscribe to my YouTube channel and be inspired every single day with innovative content that keeps you fresh, updated and ready for the future. For more information. Also visit my website at Ian khan.com

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Dr. Stanley Rosen in conversation with Futurist Ian Khan

In this episode, i speak with Dr. Stanley Rosen, also a co-contributor to the recent book “After Shock”.

Bio

Dr. Stanley G. Rosen is Professor of Acquisition Management, Defense Acquisition University. Dr. Rosen joined the faculty of DAU in December 2008. He has had extensive experience in strategic planning and program management during a career spanning over four decades. His activities as a business and organizational strategy consultant include work with Toffler Associates, the executive advisory firm formed by Alvin and Heidi Toffler. In addition, Rosen was Director of Strategic Development and Integration for Boeing Satellite Systems. In this capacity, he was responsible for development of Boeing’s strategy for succeeding in the global satellite market, serving a wide variety of US Government and international commercial customers. Prior to the acquisition of Hughes Space and Communications by Boeing, he led Hughes’ ballistic missile defense architecture development and was Strategic Planning Director for Hughes Defense Systems.

Before joining Hughes, Dr. Rosen held scientific, engineering, program management, strategy and policy development positions with the U.S. Air Force, during which time he worked on a wide variety of NASA, Air Force and classified space activities. His last position in a distinguished 21-year military career was Director of Long Range Planning, Space Systems Division, Air Force Systems Command.

Dr. Rosen earned a BS from the U.S. Air Force Academy, a MS in Aerospace Engineering from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, an MS in Systems Management from the University of Southern California, and a Doctor of Engineering degree from the University of Stuttgart, Germany.

He has served in various volunteer capacities, and is currently Vice Chairman of the Board of Directors of the National Space Society. He was a national board member and Vice President of Public Policy of the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, is a former Chairman and board member of the California Space Authority and Past President of the Association for Strategic Planning, where he was inducted into the Hall of Fame. He is a certified Strategic Management Professional.

He and his wife Anne live in Los Angeles, California, and have seven children.

About After Shock

The world’s foremost futurists reflect on 50 years of Future Shock—and look ahead to the next 50

Contributors include:

Alan Kay
Aaron Frank
Adrienne Mayor
Alexander Mankowsky
Alexandra Ivanovitch
Alisha Bhagat
Amy Zalman
Anders Sorman-Nilsson
Andra Keay
Andrew Curry
Andy Hines
Anita Sengupta
Anne Lise Kjaer
Aris Persidis
Aubrey de Grey
Barry O’Reilly
Barry Vacker
Bill Davidow
Bill Diamond
Bryan Alexander
Byron Reese
Carlos Osorio
Carver Mead
Cat Tully
Cindy Frewen
Clem Bezold
Daniel Burrus
Daniel Levine
David Brin
David Guston
David Krakauer
David J. Staley
David Weinberger
Deb Westphal
Diane M. Francis
Donna Dupont
Eleanor “Nell” Watson
Eric Daimler
Erica Bol
Erik Qualman
Fotis Sotiropoulos
George Gilder
Grady Booch
Gray Scott
Hannes Sjoblad
Harish Natarajan
Hazel Henderson
Helen Messier
Ian Khan
Ignacio Pena
Jack Uldrich
James Canton
Jane McGonigal
Jason Jackson
Jason Schenker
Jay Gambetta
Jeff Eisenach
Jeffrey C. Bauer
Jerome Glenn
Jerry Fishenden
Joe Dispenza
Joe Tankersley
Joel Garreau
John L. Petersen
John M. Smart
John Sack
John Sanei
John Schroeter
Jonathan Venn
José Morey
Kaitlyn Sadtler
Kirk Borne
Klee Irwin
Kris Østergaard
Lisa Bodell
Maciej Kranz
Martin Guigui
Martin Rees
Maggie Greyson
Michael Tomczyk
Michel Laberge
Mick Ebeling
Moon Ribas
Naveen Jain
Neil Jacobstein
Newt Gingrich
Patricia Lustig & Gill Ringland
Paul Saffo
Paul Stimers
Po Bronson & Arvind Gupta
Ray Kurzweil
Rebecca Costa
Richard Browning
Richard Slaughter
Richard Watson
Richard Yonck
Rodrigo Nieto Gómez
Rohit Bhargava
Ross Dawson
Ruth Miller
Sanjiv Chopra & Pankaj K Vij
Sohail Inayatullah
Sridhar Mahadevan
Stan Rosen
Stephanie Mehta
Steve Waite
Tanya Accone
Terrence (Terry) Sejnowski
Teun Koetsier
Theodore Jay Gordon
Thomas Frey
Timothy Chou
Vikram Mansharamani
Wolfgang Fengler
Zoltan Istvan

Publication Details
ISBN Print: 978-0-9997364-4-9
ISBN eBook: 978-0-9997364-5-6

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Full Transcript : hi friends welcome to the Ian Khan show and you’re listening to and aftershocks special episode in this series I have interviewed experts who have featured and who have contributed to the recent book aftershock. My guest today is Dr. Stan Rosen, who is been on the faculty of the Department of Defense’s Defense Acquisition University. Prior to joining the da u faculty. Dr. Rosen was a management consultant with Topher associates. And formerly he was director of strategic development integration for Boeing satellite systems. Dr. Rosen is an incredible authority on many different things. And we want to know from him today, a few things that he’s got to share over to Dr. Stan Rosen.

Welcome to the Ian Khan show. I’m so thrilled to have you here. Your contribution to the world of futurism is incredible. Your article in aftershock is amazing. Let’s have a conversation about state of the world and the future. First of all, welcome to the show. Thanks, Ian. You know, it’s been great looking at your work, too. And I’ve gone back to see your other podcasts and you’re doing a tremendous service by introducing not only this word, but the other participants in this project, what a what a fantastic project for 50 years after, after this one book came out. And I am humbled to be part of this amazing group of people who have written and compiled this book to their thoughts and ideas and the diversity in all the futurists who are in there. Some of them are medical practitioners, some of them are educators, some are scientists. And every time I have a conversation with someone, I learned something new because of the incredible work that they do. Well, you know, the first thing that came to my mind was the jacket cover says the world’s foremost futurists. Yes, and I don’t consider myself a futurist, if anything, if anything, I’m a practitioner. So you see, you’ve seen the the range of participants here, I’ve only sampled a few of them and look forward to both looking at your podcasts and reading the rest of the material. As I told john only got the book a few days ago, and been looking into it. And I think there is a very wide range of perspectives that generated from this cultural change that the book signified, you know, gave us kind of license to go out and think differently about change, and to start communicating about change. And so from my perspective, one of the ways to frame this is that it’s not just about the future, I mean, the future is one dimension of change, right? We want to have something happened differently, that it could happen in the future. And so we could either be prepared to respond to what’s going to be happening in the future, or we can help create the future. And you’ve had a number of guests talk about both those dimensions. But the other element of change is in it really, I think it is related to Future Shock is that the present, we understand now contains a lot of opportunities for change, there are things happening, there are technologies being developed, there are organizations being developed, that you don’t have to wait for the future for them to impact your life. So the same kind of outreach and forecasting that you would do to look at assess what are the possibilities for the future applies to the present? Well, the near future, I’ll call it the present, the near future is happening right now. So many opportunities for change, that you don’t have to either invent or wait for them to happen to you just changing the perspective and the mindset of how those developments in current activities can offer opportunities for improvement and change and that it’s just another way to frame what we have been calling the future. Absolutely. I think the future is really an evolution off maybe. And I was thinking about this yesterday, I think about this all the time is you know, we always define the future as Okay, it’s tomorrow it’s there, but you’re creating it today like your actions right this second determine your future. So the question is, is the future really the thing that’s going to happen tomorrow as a result of your actions today? Or or is it right now? Is this what we are procreating? So there’s so many definitions, I’m really fascinated by the by a couple of things, human potential, our potential to create change our potential to adapt our potential to change the state of human the people around the world, you know, eliminate poverty and homelessness and, and all of these things. And so there’s so many different definitions. Some of the people that I’ve interviewed are scientists, some of them are medical doctors and surgeons. And so looking at everybody and understanding what they do as futurists, you know, you mentioned you don’t consider yourself as a futurist, but anybody who’s procreating this tomorrow, they’re working on something that will benefit humanity. I think as a futurist, I often tell people who are my clients or who are who I engage with, is that everybody’s a futures that you can be a futurist. If you start thinking about tomorrow. Have you started working on things that will change tomorrow, that’s my no two pens. I feel better have a be included in your group now thank you knows them, then you have such an incredible career you’ve you’ve done so many different things, I don’t want to put a label on you that you’re an educator or you’re a visionary, you have done literally so many things from working, you know, any MIT to working with Congress writing a book, working with God, as he, uh, you faculty, I want you to help us understand, first of all, what has been the trajectory of your career, because what I want to do to that is inspire people who are viewing this and who will view this, we’re looking at new careers to see the diversity in someone’s career that goes from one thing to the other, and how our lives are shaped. And your career is so incredible, I just want us to be inspired. So tell me a little bit. When did you start? Yeah, the trajectory is easy to plot, but I want to draw a common thread through that trajectory. So the trajectory started when I went to the Air Force Academy, and then graduated as a second lieutenant in the Air Force spent 21 years in the Air Force, mostly doing research and development, program management, primarily, in what was emerging at the time is the military space program. And of course, when in those days, the military didn’t know anything about space. Now, not only is the military totally dependent on space, but we now have a new service called the space force as of a few months ago. So been a lot of changes through that. And I participated in that along the way. And then when I left the military, and went into industry, I was at Hughes Aircraft. And at Boeing, after Boeing bought my part of us, which was the use space and communications company. And we did both military, other government like NASA and commercial space activity. So the commercialization of space was another thread that pulled into that then when I retired from Boeing became a consultant with Toffler associates, we then had the opportunity to go back and help those organizations that I’d worked with, and a number of others in doing the kind of things that toddler does best. And after toddler, I consulted on my own for a little while. And then, as you said, join the Defense Acquisition University, and have been involved in program management in the business faculty, both in terms of a instructor and facilitator, but also as a consultant and executive coach. Now, in the thread I want to draw, draw through all that is thinking strategically about how to achieve success. And by strategically you can think of that as future planning. Where do I want to be in the future? What’s a vision for the future? What strategies do I want to put in place to be successful in that future, or that could be as I said, a minute ago, a very near term future there are opportunities for success today. And the example that I picked up from your work looking for example, at blockchain right now, this is an emergent opportunity that so many organizations are taking advantage of to understand a new way of using information technology, to build a framework to be able to do services that have been done in the past and do in different ways that doesn’t wait for the future that’s happening right now. So that’s the thread that goes through that. And what I’m doing in de au is trying to help the professionals in the Defense Acquisition world, understand how to define success, do the kind of scanning of opportunities and threats and what’s really happening in the context of strengths and weaknesses, the old SWOT format, if you will, but then develop strategies and implement those strategies to be successful. So that’s the common denominator through that along the way, I did want to mention that that common denominator kind of manifests itself in an organization I helped start some years ago called it’s called the Association for strategic planning, which strategic planning was in Vogue, 70s and 80s kind of fell out of Vogue organizations went away. By the time the 90s came around. We wanted to start it again. So in Southern California, we created a group for strategic planning, it became the in a California organization, a national organization, and now it’s a global organization, thinking strategically about how to achieve success. Thank you, Stan really helps me understand how your career has shaped until now, a few things that I want to ask you about is I think strategy is one of these things that a majority of people lack when it’s about creating success, creating a company building a company becoming an entrepreneur, and the importance of strategy is critical enable in order to be able to execute on something that you think will take you to your goal to your destination to be whatever you want to be. Have you used any specific frameworks for strategy throughout your career. Do you have a favorite framework or some some recommendations that you can provide? Yeah, and in a way, what I just described captures that in and became the essence of what I wrote about in the book. And that is the way that da you reconceived education to create and I put it in the frame of the toddler’s words, leaders who have the future in their bones to think about the future to build the future to conceive, change, understand strategy. And so so much of what we’re doing at da u has to do with putting these emerging leaders and executives in situations very similar to what the toddler’s described, where instead of traditional education, we give them problems to work. We work in teams, we have multiple instructors come through not just one instructor have them think strategically about defining success, about then doing scans of to understand, as I said before, the classic you can call it, SWAT, what are the opportunities and threats that we need to work within and then how to define successful strategies in terms of the strengths and weaknesses of the organization, what can be developed, and how those can be leveraged to take advantage of the opportunities and create the future. It’s consistent with that vision of success that is very similar. And I looked at the toddler’s prescription for education to what they talked about 15 years ago. And so seeing how the AU had been successful and been recognized, successful in using that and other similar frameworks that the toppers recommended was a natural way for me to comment on where Future Shock is going. Now. By the way, I also in the article talked about something that you are very familiar with. And that is the Millennium project, and that the Millennium project was created and has recommended a variety of approaches to education and tackling current problems in a future context, using many of those same methodologies. So tried to be in a short way capture that in this article in aftershock. Absolutely. I want to ask you about you know, what, what were your experiences working with Toffler? But before that, before you answer that, I want to ask you, when did you first read Future Shock? I don’t remember who it was. Obviously, probably when I was at MIT. I was in grad school in 1970. And so my guess it was during that time, yeah. So Alvin and finally put together Future Shock. And you know, it definitely was very futuristic. Only 50 years ago, the book is is is 50 years is a long time, given how much change occurs right now in the world in two years or five years, right? They say that we have all the data generated in the world today is equal into that, that humanity has generated 100 years and we’re doubling our data and all of those things. So for for Alvin to foresee and understand the impact of change happening on the world 50 years ago. It’s incredible. And I’m floored by that. So different futures that I’ve been speaking with, and different experts have a different take on it. Some love it. Some have. Some are critical. Some said, Oh, he missed something. And some say, Well, he got banged on, you got to do it. What are your thoughts on what he foresaw 50 years ago? And how the world is today? Do you see being different or kind of in line with what he what he said? So let me answer that question with a question, if I could, because I want to take advantage of the short time that we have to make this into a true dialogue. Sure. The title of your article in the book was the toddler secret to unlocking human potential, right? What do you think was the tougher secret to unlocking human potential? And I noticed in your article, you talk about the seven axioms, which are very powerful. And I want to get a feel from you about how you think those seven axioms relate to the toddler’s secret for unlocking human potential because when I read your article you answered it answered for me the question that you asked. So a great question. Thanks. Then I think beyond what Toffler wrote as this futuristic world, this mega trends and things that will shape our lives and so on. I think beneath that, Toffler was also trying to give us a message of how to adapt to this world, how to be successful in this world, how to change our state, in order to survive and thrive in this world that is so futuristic and full of change. And so the seven axioms literally are for me, they are the foundation of what I do and in my work in the framework that I have called future readiness score, and I have a few different things that are part of my work. They make sense to me when it comes to changing our state when it comes to adapting to change when it comes to creating a better future. And those are for me, completely maps on what Toffler wrote in his books and his works. And what every futurist talks about, right in today’s data names, or they’ve talked about in the past, is how do we change the future and for me, It’s those seven things, you know, we’re constantly in a state of change with respect to how our environment changes that it’s the engagement, the state of engagement has changed. Yes, technology has accelerated that a lot. Social media has exponentially changed that a lot. But that rate of engagement has always always been changing because of different things that are happening in our world. Our relationships have changed with people, the way we communicate, is constantly changing. And the other coins whether it’s, you know, people, the changing generations, I mean, generations have always changed. There’s always been multiple generations. So there’s nothing new right now, if we have millennials and the post millennial generation, it’s always been happening. But we recognize that these generations have different needs different ways of thinking, maybe we have much more focused on that right now. collaboration, and execution being the last one, which is really Yes, we know all of these things are happening. But people who actually execute on these strategies, ideas and plans that they make, are actually the ones who adapt the change the best way possible. And so that’s kind of what I wrote about was, you know, the secret to do what Toffler said, The secret to futures org and offers, that was work as well. Those were my thoughts. So thank you, thank you. And that really helped me understand what you wrote for unlocking human potential later, I think the toddlers understood that. And you mentioned this before, the emerging opportunities for increased and improved collaboration, co op petition, if you will, and your talk about the opportunities for collaboration and partnerships, leveraging people and their need to self actualize. And so this opportunity to do that, as a collaborative, you know, like we can share you and I today, over over this medium in ways that we couldn’t do 50 years ago. And so we’ve seen and I think, in a way been guided by the toddler vision as these technologies emerge, that they have tremendous potential and value. And now we find ourselves in a situation where, like it or not, many of us are having to rely on these collaborative technologies to get things done. And we’re finding that there’s much more powerful tools than we might have otherwise realized. Yeah. As we speak, you know, we’re having to convert so many of our traditional methodologies da EU, in particular, but da you along with everybody else, to understand how to leverage these powerful technologies to do what you and I are doing right now to have a mind meld at a distance, which is much more powerful than we knew how to do before we were forced to explore these technologies. And I think the toddlers, at least in my limited exposure to Alvin, when I was working for topler Associates, really was excited about that opportunity that not only was emerging, but people were still just beginning to learn about and again, I worked for Toffler associates, you know, over 10 years ago, so things changed a lot since then. Yeah, of course, I want to read a passage I want to read a quote from from the book from your chapter, that goes something like this increase focus on developing creativity, critical thinking human relationships, philosophy, entrepreneurship, art, self employment, social harmony, ethics and values, Know thyself to build and lead a meaningful working life, that self assessment of progress on one’s own goals and objectives, I can take that post it on my wall, and just freed from it for the rest of my life, honestly, because you summarize things really, really succinctly very nicely. Help us help us digest that a little bit. Tell Tell me a little bit more about that. Well, the cabinet, what we’re trying to do, of course, is capture a lot of toddlers intention and how that intention had manifests itself. In a short paragraph, we only had a few words to to deal with. So it’s a compendium, if you will, of opportunities, a companion of perspectives of if we keep these perspectives in mind, we can better leverage the kind of emerging opportunities we’ve been talking about this morning. And that Toffler saw both Topher saw coming at the time is just trying to squeeze the juice out of it, of course, and this is like your your five recommendations, if you will, on how to proactively create the future. You also talk a lot about STEM education, what’s the future of education? How should we make it more transparent, more acceptable more? What can we change in the field of education? Well, I’m not an expert on that. No, you see it from my knothole. But from my knothole, if I want to leverage what we’ve already talked about, we would take the technologies that are available, along with the attitudes that you just discussed, and the intention about looking at not only the future, but looking at as I said, What’s so today and help people understand and develop the tools to reframe Their ability to mine watch. So to understand what so and to develop strategies to create that positive future. That’s the the core skill that I’m interested in. Absolutely. I know, Stan, we don’t have a lot of time. But I’m really grateful for you for joining us and talking to us very briefly about some of the things help you understand or tell us a little bit more about your book and some something about your work where people can approach you find more about you read some of your writings. So the latest book that I think you’re referring to is called space 2.0. And this was produced with a lot of help with some great writers and artists and thinkers to share which the opportunities that are emerging right now to change the way that civilization relates to its existence, not just on the surface of this planet, but in the greater universe. And the point is that it’s not just about space colonies or space settlements, or migrating to other planets, but also using the resources, that space offers everything from being in orbit to look down to being able to communicate globally, to be able to develop capabilities using those technologies to for example, navigate GPS, and what GPS is done, did use space for manufacturing. And right now we’re on the cusp of many, many changes in those developments. We started back in the late 50s, with Sputnik develop revolutionary capabilities to put things into orbit, then to go to the moon and to go to beyond, then we learned how to put people in space, we’ve had the International Space Station, all the framework is there. And now you’re seeing the private sector get much more involved in putting private money into developing businesses and other capabilities for both both government customers and private customers to expand civilization. So space 2.0 is looking at what’s happening right now, in terms of that revolutionary change. And its opportunities for new careers, new investments, new policies, new international cooperation as a new framework for changing the way we think about human civilization. In a way hopefully, it was written in a way that’s not just for the space club, or for the people that already understand that which there are a lot of books about that. That can be was written so it could be a gift for your teenage son, or a gift from your for your seven year old or give it to dad so he understands what’s going on. Written for a very general audience by a very talented team on behalf of the National Space society. That’s what this latest book is. space. 2.0 incredible is the space 2.0 available on Amazon. Where can people get absolutely Oh, yeah. Okay, all the normal outlets. Perfect, perfect. Stan, I really appreciate your time. I know we’re over our time. But I really do appreciate it. I hope we were able to continue this dialogue at a at another time. But in the meanwhile I want everybody to grab a copy of Aftershock from Amazon and wherever else they buy books. This is the best read that I have had in many, many, many years. And I really recommend everyone buying a copy read your content and your thoughts in it and really be inspired. Stan, thank you so much. You take care and we’ll continue this dialogue another time. We definitely will be in and thanks so much for allowing me to participate in your in your podcast. My pleasure. Thank you so much Dan, you take care Thank you Take care. Hey, friends, this is Ian Khan. If you like what you saw on my video, then please subscribe to my YouTube channel and be inspired every single day with innovative content that keeps you fresh, updated and ready for the future. For more information. Also visit my website at Ian khan.com

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Hannes Sapiens – Biohacker – In Conversation with Futurist Ian Khan

In this episode, i speak with globally recognized Futurist Hannes Sapiens, also a co-contributor to the recent book “After Shock”.

Bio

Hannes Sapiens Sjoblad is an internationally recognised thought leader, media commentator and professional advisor on biohacking, human augmentation and the impact of exponential technologies on the human condition.

As a campaigner and activist he works to democratize public access to and understanding of new, powerful technologies in the field of biohacking. With a background in international business, deep insights in emerging technology fields and an easy going style of communication, Hannes is a popular speaker and business advisor on tech trends.

Learn more about Hannes at https://www.hannessapiens.com​

About After Shock

The world’s foremost futurists reflect on 50 years of Future Shock—and look ahead to the next 50

Contributors include:

Alan Kay
Aaron Frank
Adrienne Mayor
Alexander Mankowsky
Alexandra Ivanovitch
Alisha Bhagat
Amy Zalman
Anders Sorman-Nilsson
Andra Keay
Andrew Curry
Andy Hines
Anita Sengupta
Anne Lise Kjaer
Aris Persidis
Aubrey de Grey
Barry O’Reilly
Barry Vacker
Bill Davidow
Bill Diamond
Bryan Alexander
Byron Reese
Carlos Osorio
Carver Mead
Cat Tully
Cindy Frewen
Clem Bezold
Daniel Burrus
Daniel Levine
David Brin
David Guston
David Krakauer
David J. Staley
David Weinberger
Deb Westphal
Diane M. Francis
Donna Dupont
Eleanor “Nell” Watson
Eric Daimler
Erica Bol
Erik Qualman
Fotis Sotiropoulos
George Gilder
Grady Booch
Gray Scott
Hannes Sjoblad
Harish Natarajan
Hazel Henderson
Helen Messier
Ian Khan
Ignacio Pena
Jack Uldrich
James Canton
Jane McGonigal
Jason Jackson
Jason Schenker
Jay Gambetta
Jeff Eisenach
Jeffrey C. Bauer
Jerome Glenn
Jerry Fishenden
Joe Dispenza
Joe Tankersley
Joel Garreau
John L. Petersen
John M. Smart
John Sack
John Sanei
John Schroeter
Jonathan Venn
José Morey
Kaitlyn Sadtler
Kirk Borne
Klee Irwin
Kris Østergaard
Lisa Bodell
Maciej Kranz
Martin Guigui
Martin Rees
Maggie Greyson
Michael Tomczyk
Michel Laberge
Mick Ebeling
Moon Ribas
Naveen Jain
Neil Jacobstein
Newt Gingrich
Patricia Lustig & Gill Ringland
Paul Saffo
Paul Stimers
Po Bronson & Arvind Gupta
Ray Kurzweil
Rebecca Costa
Richard Browning
Richard Slaughter
Richard Watson
Richard Yonck
Rodrigo Nieto Gómez
Rohit Bhargava
Ross Dawson
Ruth Miller
Sanjiv Chopra & Pankaj K Vij
Sohail Inayatullah
Sridhar Mahadevan
Stan Rosen
Stephanie Mehta
Steve Waite
Tanya Accone
Terrence (Terry) Sejnowski
Teun Koetsier
Theodore Jay Gordon
Thomas Frey
Timothy Chou
Vikram Mansharamani
Wolfgang Fengler
Zoltan Istvan

Publication Details
ISBN Print: 978-0-9997364-4-9
ISBN eBook: 978-0-9997364-5-6

Full Transcript : Hi friends and welcome to this episode of the Ian Khan show. You’re listening to an aftershock special episode and I’m speaking with a co contributor to the recent book aftershock. Today I’m speaking with Hannes Sapiens who’s a biohacker and human argumentation technologist committed to the idea of radically improving the human condition. He’s an author, speaker, professional advisor on the impact of exponential technologies. And he’s also a faculty member at Singularity University, Nordic Let’s speak with Hannes. Hannes Welcome to the Ian Khan show ladies and gentlemen today I have with me hennis Sapiens. He’s based out of Stockholm works for Singularity University, and he and I are the contributors to aftershock. It’s the book put together by a friend john shorter and a book that came out 50 years after Alvin Toffler wrote the book, Future Shock 50 years ago, it’s so long ago it how do we even make sense of what he wrote back then, is what we’re going to talk about right now.

How are you? hennis? I’m very well, thank you. And it’s it’s great to be on here with you. Thank you so much for making time. I know you’re in Stockholm. So give us a COVID-19 impact assessment as to what’s happening in Stockholm. Right? Well, frankly, I think life here is relatively close to normal compared to many other places. We haven’t really had a proper lockdown. The kids still go to school. Obviously, a lot of people work from home. I do that myself. But I’m happy to tell you that life is carrying on relatively normal over here. So Sweden right now, obviously, is one of those countries that is defined conventional norms. It’s defined what everybody’s talking about lockdown, shut down everything, Don’t move, don’t do anything. But I think the world is failing to understand what Sweden is doing and why it’s doing it. And many people are afraid that isn’t the right thing to do. What’s the strategy behind keeping everything open? What are Swedes doing to stay safe? Generally speaking, right. So this, this could potentially be a long conversation. But my main takeaways for an international audience would be that the Swedish strategy is that the cure shouldn’t be worse than the initial disease. So yes, COVID-19 is a terrible disease. But if we run the country into a complete economic crash, then that’s going to have even worse consequences. And fool currently in works for a short time, but it has also has many negative effects for society. I think the explanation why this is happening in Sweden is partly the way this country works. And partly, it’s the culture of Swedes. So the first dimension is that in Sweden, the politicians have stepped back from from making decisions and left it to the experts. Whereas in many other places, we’ve seen politicians who want to be brave, and they want to make decisions that they want to show that to take it seriously. And they lock everything down and close the borders. And that’s not very sustainable. If this is going to last for for many, many months. Yes. second dimension is that we Swedes have a general overall we obey authority to a decent extent. So if the government tells us stay at home, don’t meet your grandparents, people actually comply to a very large extent without you know, the threat of putting police and military in the street to enforce these things. Excellent. Well, hoping everybody comes out of this without a scratch. Let’s talk about Toffler Toffler has changed the way many of us think. aftershock got 50 plus futurists together and we all wrote our piece in the book talking about what does Future Shock mean? What are we doing today, you’ve written that you constantly are trying to explain Future Shock to people, or you’re trying to put them into Future Shock, so that they could start understanding the changes the world is going through and so on. Tell me about your process of knowing Future Shock, and then helping others understand it, right. Yes, I read the book many years ago, and I found it very inspirational. So it’s been a concept of carried with me for many years. And one thing that I have been doing a lot over the last few years is that I have been very active in the world of biohacking, where we experiment with new technologies, and what we can do to modify biological systems everywhere, from sales to plants, to animals, even to homosapiens. And in this role, I have been traveling the world really speaking to audiences and doing workshops with companies and organizations and I, as a practical biohacker, I really enjoyed taking people through an experience before I do the theory part. And one of the many hacks that we apply is to chip implant people on stage and chip implants is an awesome way to experience how technology is not just modifying society and business but also ourselves. And I find the reactions to instead of showing people some beautiful slides and curves when you actually take them through a live demo when there is blood and there is needles and there is drama that touches very deeply and it conveys a very strong message and when I think Think of this in terms of giving people a proper Future Shock. And so you’re putting Future Shock into actual perspective by by getting people to interact with technology in the way they always listen. But then you’re getting them to experience that I think that’s a great way of getting people to, to understand something is by going through the process, the pain, the pleasure, whatever we can call it. In the book, you also talk about the ideas of Big Brother, Big Sister, they’re always talking about surveillance states, how the world is changing how we’re being watched, and how some people always want to know what you’re doing and how they use our information to do whatever they need to do. And there’s so many different ideas, thoughts, people who have different ways of thinking about it. How do you separate these Tell us about your philosophy on this? Right? Well, in a nutshell, we live in a world, which is already a world of distributed sensors and big data and enormous data flows. This is the new normal, it’s not going to go away. And you can take different perspectives on this, the obvious one, let’s say the 20th century perspective would be, oh, no, this is a big brother society, we are being under surveillance, we are being you know, abuse and data is being taken of our behavior. And then it’s being used against us in different ways. And it’s overall a frightening, you know, idea of the future. What I’m trying to convey and with the metaphor of the big sister society is that if we take this world of big data, and consciously design, how we want these things to work with respect for the individual user, and also giving the user control and power over their own data, then we can enable a very different society. And with the metaphor of the big sister society, what I want to convey is a world where it is not a big brother bully that sort of observes you and addresses you in ways that frighten you. But a caring system watched over by machines of loving Grace is a classic line from a good old poem. And what I’m trying to say with the big sister society is that we can create a society in which the systems take care of us to a very great extent. Then there’s of course, the the ironic twist that I myself grew up with two big brothers and I never had a big sister. So maybe I see them in a in a somewhat rose tinted light. Yeah, and you write about this in the book and I’m going to read from from actually from the book use a big sister does not spy on us, She protects us from prying eavesdroppers Big Sister does not monitor our online habits in order to push more products on us. Instead, she negotiates with the other superbly powerful systems on the other side on our behalf. And I want to add a thought here that I really believe we are going to this very initial evolution of our relationship with technology, right? Our relationship with surveillance, artificial intelligence, robotics, name it, whatever it is, I don’t think we’ve lived with all these things for many, many years. And I think first off this primary relation that we have many things we are too keen on many things we don’t observe. I’m wondering, and it’s an open question. I wonder what the world will be like 20 years from now, or 30 years from now. Right. And I’m thinking about Toffler 50 years ago, he wrote the book, what will the world be 25 years from now? Will we really be so attached to our data and our information that we are as we are right now? Or would we have evolved to a different state, and we wouldn’t care about something? What do you think about that, I think there are data that we still don’t have access to that are tremendously important. For example, data relating to our own health. Today, if I feel ill, for some reason, I need to go to a doctor, I need to draw a blood sample, we need to analyze it in a lab, and then I’ll get my data A week later. And this for me, the body has a system, if something that we urgently need to have a completely different data access to. And in 20 years from today, I think that will absolutely be the norm. I think that what we need is a technology that gives us a real time understanding of what is happening in our systems. We can do this for companies, we can create awesome companies with dashboards of web traffic or cash or inventory flows. But we can’t do it for the most important system of all the ones that keeps us alive. And my vision is that we must create this technology that allows us this access to our bodies. And I would like to make the analog with vaccinations because 100 years ago, most people were not vaccinated and many people died from diseases like tuberculosis. And today, it’s of course the norm. Everyone has numerous vaccinations during the years when we grow up, and we don’t question it. My view is that in 20 years from now People will be asking how did people survive back then when you didn’t have this real time understanding of what was going on in your bodies? And you know, what will tell them? We can say, Yeah, can you imagine people died back then? Yeah, I completely agree with you, and that we are going through this natural process of rejecting something new and fighting and opposing it, but then we are getting very comfortable with it. One of the dilemmas with technology generally doing so much for us is, is privacy is the integrity of information. I think at the end, I could be wrong. But if you simmer down everything, people are either afraid of their body that they will be caused bodily harm if their information is exposed to let’s say, my information is exposed. And I might say, well, a stalker will come to my home and attack me or rob me correct. Like, literally the bottom line. Or people might say, well, somebody’s going to steal all my money from my bank. Remember, the early days, when online banking started, people wouldn’t even log into online bank saying no, I don’t trust this thing. Because why? Well, somebody may access my funds and take my money. So these are literally big, big things that people are afraid of. And my question to everybody all the time is, what if these they have our information and they cannot do anything, right? You see a lot happening with the democratization of technology and how data is everywhere. Maybe tomorrow, it would be fine to give our data away. And we wouldn’t be afraid that any harm will come to us financial, economic, bodily harm. One of the things now that I want to get into regarding biohacking is that sure, we’re going to have implants, we’re going to maybe and that’s where we’re going with by hacking, correct? What if the corporation that controls these implants starts controlling me and does something to me makes me into a slave or robot? I don’t know people have great imagination, they can see see to make the worst. So how do we start creating that understanding what the possibilities are what what are your thoughts on this, as you as you do this work in biohacking? I think we’ve overcome bigger challenges. I think that this is in many ways, it’s the perspective of human rights. It’s not the data in itself, that is bad in any way. We need to understand if we specifically take body data, for example, it’s always an agent with a certain agenda that has the potential to abuse it. And in open societies and in well, working societies, we have protections against these things. And this is what we must extend to all human beings on this planet, the principles of privacy of human rights in a broad sense. There are also initiatives, of course, regarding understanding the rights for upgraded persons, such as, for example, the right to have ownership to technology, third party technology in your body, right to imagine that I would have at some point an implant from Apple, for example, at any point in time, I will have the right to if they want to take it away, I will have the right to keep it if it’s part of me, I will be able to say yes or no to any kind of software systems that are installed there. We can set up rules and procedures that actually protect the individual to a significant extent with technology, and also the legal systems that we have in place today. So I am an optimist that we will muddle through with creating this more benevolent surveillance system, which I call the big sister, do you see some regions, some countries are doing some really good work regarding this? I know a lot of places and regions are doing work about it. But good work? What are some of the good examples that you can share with us? Well, let me be honest with you, I am proud. And I’m also happy to be living in Europe. In this day and age, because of the way data is treated here. If you somewhat simplify the different wealth systems and how we work with data, you can you have the American model, which is that individuals users data or the property of the corporations, it can be collected, it can be sold, it can be traded, it can be exploited in many ways. And then you have the Chinese version, which is data, not for profit, but data for control. When it’s the state that collects the data on the people companies are relatively restricted, but the government can apply the insights on people’s behavior and sanction different behaviors. Whereas in the European model, we do our best far from perfect to protect individual rights and human freedoms under the law. And I think for example, with the GDPR, we have a decent degree of protection. It’s interesting to see though how other parts of the world how this is playing out, because we can see that countries with more authoritarian tendencies such as Russia and Turkey, they are looking very closely at the Chinese model. So we’ll really see I see this is a battle of really some different systems in the 21st century, how we how we manage these big data models on a national and international level. I also think that I completely agree. I also think we’ve got to do a lot of work when it comes to regulations when it comes to international relationships when it comes to Africa. work that we can apply to this or subset of technologies globally, right? Because if I have data implants, or if I have implants of some kind in me, you know, I’ve got different things happening. And I go from us to I go to Japan, or I go to India or I go to China, and I should have the same rights or, you know, the governance around having those implants. And so that’s very important. I think that a framework be created. Is there somebody who’s leading this? Or is there somebody who’s creating this framework? Is there a body an organization that’s working on this right now or no, not to my knowledge, there is no international initiative on a significant level, there are brilliant technologists and philosophers who are exploring these points, I think that they may not be as influential as we want them to be. But COVID-19 is, of course, a roadblock now in terms of the ongoing globalization, but I think that globalization and international harmonization of laws of travel of industry of business is just it’s going to pick up again, sooner or later. It’s an inevitable development. And of course, we need to harmonize these things. Otherwise people will vote with their feet and go to places where they feel that they are treated fairly. Absolutely hoping that the next five to 10 years we’ll see more development in the world of biohacking. Help us maybe take, you know, the first few steps into biohacking. What should our listeners do about it? Where can they go and read more about it? Or what can they do? I’m not saying they should start experimenting on their bodies with something but what is it? They should? What is the safe way, which is my right, so there are many good things in which you can explore just getting to understand your so let me explain briefly the concept of biohacking specifically for us humans, what we can do is you can measure thanks to new technologies, a lot of things about your body, through wearables and other systems, you can log and understand your system in many good ways, then the hacking comes in first you need to understand the system, then you need to see how you can modify it. If you want to change your vital parameters in various ways your cholesterol are different vitamin levels, etc. You can address that through diet and exercise and supplements, etc. So but I would encourage everyone to, for example, do a DNA test, get an understanding of your own genome don’t do this silly ones, like oh, what’s my heritage, that’s not what this is all about. It’s about understanding how your system works, what kind of diseases you’re susceptible to what kind of diet and exercise that are actually optimal for you based on your genetics. And in this perspective, I think that everyone should really do a genetic test, because you will learn a lot of interesting things. A rapidly expanding field in genetics is pharmacogenomics. pharmacogenomics, is the fact that your genes, in fact, have a great effect on different medicines that you take. And a lot of people take medicines that don’t really have the expected effect, because they have certain gene variants, a lot of doctors subscribe to certain medicines without being aware of whether the patient has that particular gene or not. And if you go to the FDA website, they are have an ever growing list of gene markers that now relate to different medications. So this is a completely new field in research that has just exploded over the last few years simply because we now have access to huge human genome datasets. And I encourage everyone to learn about this technology, what you can do with it, and how it really impacts your life in very important ways. You mentioned the DNA test, is there a specific test stance that people should take like there’s, there’s probably many of them, there are hundreds online, you can just browse around. Now, if you’re concerned about how they use your data, I wouldn’t go for a US based one, forgive me. But I’d rather go for a European based one, where you actually own the data, even if it’s in the company system. And there are dozens of them online. And so the reasons for doing a genetic test is learn about disease, learn about how you should eat and exercise and most importantly, perhaps learn about what kind of medications you may or may not be suited to taking. And then it’s the more cute and little bit silly dimension, which is Oh, what kind of ancestry Do I have and find the distant relatives? That’s not for the biohackers? Absolutely. Well, I think that that’s an interesting thought for us to go and figure out who we are, first of all, and then get into the second stage of optimizing our body, look into biohacking, see what can enhance our lives our health? You never know what’s what’s around the corner. A hand is where can people find out more about you? Where can they follow you check out your work, tell us right so I’m on most of the social platforms if they want to find me on Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, it’s harness Sapiens. And I’m very happy to engage with people who are human augmentation and human body modification will give us radically different better future. Amazing. Well, thank you so much Hannah’s for being here having this conversation with us. Thank you for being part of Aftershock. It’s been incredible sharing the platform with thinkers like yourself, very humbling for me to be part of that special group of people keep doing what you’re doing, continue making changes in the world. And hopefully we’ll see around the bend after COVID-19. And I completely agree the world is going to bounce back things are going to change and hopefully we’ll be stronger, better. And yeah, we’ll look forward to catching up with you very shortly. My pleasure. I thank you very much for time you take care. Hey, friends, this is Ian Khan. 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Bestselling Author Kris Ostergaard on the Ian Khan Show

Kris Ostergaard is a researcher, author and globally sought after keynote speaker on innovation, corporate culture and the impact of technological change. He is co-founder and Chief Learning & Innovation Officer of SingularityU Nordic, the Nordic entity of Silicon Valley based educational institution, Singularity University.

Besides being the author of Transforming Legacy Organizations, Kris also co-authored The Fundamental 4s – Designing Extraordinary Customer Experiences in an Exponential World. He has co-founded the experience design firm DARE2, accelerator program Thinkubator and co-working space DARE2mansion. Kris is also a board member, angel investor and advisor to both startups and Fortune 500s.

Kris is also bestselling author of Transforming Legacy Organizations: Turn your Established Business into an Innovation Champion to Win the Future.

About After Shock

The world’s foremost futurists reflect on 50 years of Future Shock—and look ahead to the next 50

Contributors include:

Alan Kay
Aaron Frank
Adrienne Mayor
Alexander Mankowsky
Alexandra Ivanovitch
Alisha Bhagat
Amy Zalman
Anders Sorman-Nilsson
Andra Keay
Andrew Curry
Andy Hines
Anita Sengupta
Anne Lise Kjaer
Aris Persidis
Aubrey de Grey
Barry O’Reilly
Barry Vacker
Bill Davidow
Bill Diamond
Bryan Alexander
Byron Reese
Carlos Osorio
Carver Mead
Cat Tully
Cindy Frewen
Clem Bezold
Daniel Burrus
Daniel Levine
David Brin
David Guston
David Krakauer
David J. Staley
David Weinberger
Deb Westphal
Diane M. Francis
Donna Dupont
Eleanor “Nell” Watson
Eric Daimler
Erica Bol
Erik Qualman
Fotis Sotiropoulos
George Gilder
Grady Booch
Gray Scott
Hannes Sjoblad
Harish Natarajan
Hazel Henderson
Helen Messier
Ian Khan
Ignacio Pena
Jack Uldrich
James Canton
Jane McGonigal
Jason Jackson
Jason Schenker
Jay Gambetta
Jeff Eisenach
Jeffrey C. Bauer
Jerome Glenn
Jerry Fishenden
Joe Dispenza
Joe Tankersley
Joel Garreau
John L. Petersen
John M. Smart
John Sack
John Sanei
John Schroeter
Jonathan Venn
José Morey
Kaitlyn Sadtler
Kirk Borne
Klee Irwin
Kris Østergaard
Lisa Bodell
Maciej Kranz
Martin Guigui
Martin Rees
Maggie Greyson
Michael Tomczyk
Michel Laberge
Mick Ebeling
Moon Ribas
Naveen Jain
Neil Jacobstein
Newt Gingrich
Patricia Lustig & Gill Ringland
Paul Saffo
Paul Stimers
Po Bronson & Arvind Gupta
Ray Kurzweil
Rebecca Costa
Richard Browning
Richard Slaughter
Richard Watson
Richard Yonck
Rodrigo Nieto Gómez
Rohit Bhargava
Ross Dawson
Ruth Miller
Sanjiv Chopra & Pankaj K Vij
Sohail Inayatullah
Sridhar Mahadevan
Stan Rosen
Stephanie Mehta
Steve Waite
Tanya Accone
Terrence (Terry) Sejnowski
Teun Koetsier
Theodore Jay Gordon
Thomas Frey
Timothy Chou
Vikram Mansharamani
Wolfgang Fengler
Zoltan Istvan

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Full Transcript : Hi friends and welcome to the Ian Khan Show. Today we’re listening to a special aftershock episode and I’m speaking with a co contributor to the book aftershocks. My guest today is Chris Ostergaard. He’s the co founder and chief learning and Innovation Officer at Singularity University Nordic, which is the North Nordic entity of Singularity University is the author of transforming legacy organizations, co author off the fundamental fours. Let’s go over to Chris. Welcome to the Ian Khan show. And today I have with me a really great friend, Chris Ostergaard. He’s based out of Denmark. He’s in Copenhagen, one of the big, most beautiful cities that I personally like.

And Chris, how are you? I’m very good. Thank you. How are you? I’m doing well. How are things are working out in Copenhagen? I’m asking everybody about COVID-19. What are the repercussions? Tell me how you guys doing there? First of all, yeah, I feel always I have to emphasize how lucky I am to live in a country like Denmark. And that is actually also correct this time around. So relatively speaking, we are safe here in Denmark, I think the government reacted relatively quickly as well. So we’ve been in more or less of total lockdown about the Prime Minister just announced today that they’re opening up slightly. Now we’ve had, again, relatively speaking few deaths, and the curve has flattened and it looks to be moving in the right direction. So I feel that we’re in a in a fortunate place compared to a lot of other countries around the world. You know, a few weeks ago, maybe a couple of months, I should say now that we were all moving at a certain pace in our lives with business with life, and we were paying attention to many things. We were not paying attention to many things. But it’s so amazing how that perspective changes how our focus changes, because of what’s happening in the world outside. How do you think the world will come out of COVID-19? What do you see happening in the next couple of years? Let’s start there. So what I think will happen is that what we’re already seeing is there are a lot of, you know, jokes and cartoons floating around on the internet on who sort of sped up the digital transformation processes in the world and in organizations. Was it the CIO? Was it the CEO? Or was it the Coronavirus, right. And so for organizations who have been forced to move even more radically into digital transformation as our society as a whole, obviously, we’re all working from home now, or at least most of us to probably what that means is that cause those trends existed already the move towards digital or probably what it means is that it is sped up the pace at which law will transition into this with five, seven years, let’s say right, so while we of course, there’s another there’s light at the end of the tunnel in regards to us being able to meet physically, again, hopefully very, very soon traveling and going to restaurants, tourism, all of that stuff. I’m convinced that this has really accelerated the whole move into digital for all of us, both professionally and personally, to a much higher degree than would have otherwise been the case. Absolutely. And I can’t agree more that you know, we’re we’re going towards a different world, of course, majority of everything being seen, but at least I think people have given it a test drive and people who haven’t been technology savvy, they’re using technology, and hopefully it creates some efficiency in our world. It reduces our carbon footprint, it does all of those good things that it’s supposed to do. I really believe that it’s some kind of maybe a wake up call or maybe a great leveler, greater reset, greater refresh. It’s one of those things where we’re getting an opportunity to think a little bit more because we were just so busy in the world that we live in. So I really suggest everybody to utilize this time in reading more in doing an online course in studying and doing a bunch of these things that you’ve been constantly being let go. So good time to do that. Let’s talk about technology. So we’re here because we both are contributors to this amazing book called aftershock. And aftershock was put together by a friend john Schroeder. He needs to pay me every time I say his name seriously. I’ve said his name so many times. But john shorter put this book together called aftershock. 50 years after the famous futurist Alvin Toffler wrote his book, Future Shock and Future Shock was a revolution 50 years ago, he talked about this future with technology and how people will behave and so on and so forth. And so this book has 50 different futurists who talk about the future. Alvin Toffler. Tell me about your experiences and your exposure to Alvin Toffler. Yeah, so well, it was really amazing to get the chance to contribute to this book, because obviously, I have, you know, been in the space of innovation for I guess, almost two decades now in various shapes and forms. And so the book Future Shock has always, you know, stood out almost as a Bible in regards to looking into where we will we’re heading as a society and the impact that technology will have as well. I think his predictions and his scenarios for the future, there are so many remarkable insights on his account that it’s just mind boggling to see now 50 years after I read the book and in preparing for contributing to to aftershock, and it was just mind boggling to me to really see how he nailed it in terms of some of these very big influence inchoate trends that we’re seeing, including, as we were just speaking about speed, the whole notion of, you know, the adhocracy, the network, HR organizations, and how we would all be operating at a pace and impact so far, far bigger than what was the case in 1970. And he certainly got that right. And that was sort of what inspired me to take that as a starting point to look into then. So what does that then mean for you know, the next 50 years or thereabouts? And so you also you work with Singularity University, isn’t that right? Yeah. I’m a co founder of Singularity University, we system Nordic entity of Singularity University. So we have our headquarters in Copenhagen and no service all of the Nordic countries on the faculty of Singularity University, where I’m specialized in regards to innovation and primarily innovation in large established organizations. I recently wrote a book called transforming legacy organizations that deals with this. And I’m also the host of the corporate innovation podcast, which is a Singularity University podcast as well. And Singularity is incredible. With the number of programs you guys have the number of experts you’ve got, I’ve definitely interviewed a few people from Singularity University on my podcast series as part of Aftershock. And hopefully I’m also looking forward to perhaps interviewing a couple of more people that I’ve missed. But Peter, Peter Diamandis is amazing, incredible to see all the work you guys do. XPrize is amazing. It’s great for innovation and to push the boundaries. Let’s talk about artificial intelligence is one of these things that we all are continuously pushing and pushing ahead. And you have a really nice model of human AI roles in the future workplace, you know, what does the future look like when it’s the the mesh between artificial intelligence helped me understand this model that you have here? And I’m going to put this up here? I’ve been reading it. Yeah. talk. Talk to me a little bit about that. Yeah. So what I was investigating and have been thinking a lot about and wrote about in aftershock was the whole notion of so whatever topless spoke about these network HR organizations, and you know, the radical increase in pace and impact that we will be seeing from organizations and with all the technological development, then we have been seeing, and we’ll be seeing what does that then mean for the types of organizations that we will have in the future. And to me those, there’s really two key issues here, which is about human and artificial intelligence, I’m pretty sure I don’t know how far down the line, but at one point, we will be talking about artificial intelligence and longer, right, that sort of terminology, simply because I guess it is still so new to us. But then I guess that’s the point and making that, you know, increasingly artificial intelligence, and what that enables, becomes, you know, natural to us, or, as a default, that is just absolutely, basically necessary for running a company. And I guess we’re almost already there. And certainly, pretty soon, if you’re not AI powered as an organization, well, you know, then you have issues. And thus it is it is about AI or human execution and AI or human authority in regards to your organization who does the work and who calls the shots. And let me to develop this model here, that’s, you know, the basic two by two that sort of highlights four core organizational models that we already see, one of them is still relatively theoretical theology we already see and we will see them in an even more emphasized version. And so the most relatable probably is what I call the hyper lean organization. So that is your big tech companies of today the most of the the Silicon Valley and increasingly from other places as well hardcore tech companies that how are by almost entirely digital, they’re empowered by technology, they know working very hard to become AI, first all of them, so they have to a larger and larger extent AI execution, right, but they have human authority. And so what I’m contemplating here is that you know, increasingly, we will be able to have AI execution on more and more tasks. And the question then becomes, at a certain point, we might be able to give the job to the AI or have the AI executed, and when will we choose not to give the authority to the AI? When will we choose to remain in the driver’s seat as human beings? Yeah, that’s the human versus AI authority. And you know, and I guess that that becomes an ethical, philosophical discussion. At one point, we will be able to have the AI call the shots, but we will choose based on some ethical guiding principles that no we want to call the shots at least at a certain level, but increasingly that will mean that organizations the hyperlink organizations, they will be, you know, have management levels of people but won’t be needing human beings for execution. As you know, core staff are will to a much larger, larger extents rely on freelancers, which is another sort of core forms of organization that we will see we already seeing it, of course, but that will be by far the dominant way of working. Yeah, that is where of course you have human execution here. But increasingly AI authority, I got you. Now we’re in now, you mentioned the Silicon Valley that there’s some kind of, you know, the early adopters of AI are in Silicon Valley. What other pockets in the world do you see adapting more towards this AI driven world? I see a lot being done done in Europe to in to some extent, you know, the Netherlands is doing something. The UAE United Arab Emirates, Dubai is doing something with an entire artificial intelligence ministry, Saudi Arabia is doing something with a newly formed ai thority that’s working on AI in any particular experiences or insights, China, so probably no one at least geographically is doubling down harder on AI than China is. And and I don’t think you can find any country in the world wouldn’t say that, you know, AI is absolutely core to the future, you will be hard pressed to find companies not saying that. And of course, they have very different levels of maturity, where the Silicon Valley and quotation mark types of organizations are sort of leading the game here, but that doesn’t matter. They’re found in Silicon Valley or in Shenzhen or in Tel Aviv, or where they’re coming from. And that’s, that’s really on how they are designed from the get go on their understanding of technology. Well, legacy organizations, you know, it’s a longer journey for them, right, because there are still, again, different maturities. But they’re still you know, moving from analog to digital. And But increasingly, of course, that also means that they’re thinking AI from the minute they start to think about digital. Now, what about some of these really extremely large corporations that are funding AI researching AI, they’ve got billions of people who use their products and solutions, and we know who we’re talking about, which is great, we love their product solutions, and everything’s great. It makes our life so much more easy. But where do we start looking at AI as something that could fall into the wrong hands and the information people have out there could be used in a wrong way? like where’s the ethical boundary? Where’s the regulation boundary? How’s regulation, ethics, user rights, privacy all coming together? When we talk about AI? That’s the billion dollar question. Right. But maybe it’s the trillion dollar question. So a lot of people are asking those questions right now, both on a societal level and enterprise level and individual level. I think there are many ethical dilemmas in here and which is also actually a reason that we are right now in the process of putting together a book, which is like aftershock also an anthology called ethics at work, which is exactly about this stuff, how do we move into the future and ensure that as enterprises as organizations, we do that in an ethical manner, knowing that due to the exponential developments of technology that you know, our powers and the impact we can have with these technologies is increasing dramatically. So ethics becomes ever more important? And there’s so many questions that need answering here. And I think what kind of answers we are giving will mean, you’re dependent on a lot of different things we see geographically, if you look to us versus China versus the EU, it’s a very, very different philosophical foundation for how we think about ethics and how we act out our ethics so well. So that’s like one starting point. And then of course, you have individual organizational philosophies as well, that also impact the center. The bottom line is, as we’re speaking right now, this is very early days when it comes to ethics is that most people and that also goes for top leaders in organizations and politicians, they don’t really have awareness about the importance of ethics, they don’t have a language or ethics, they don’t have principles, they don’t have frameworks. So it’s really about kickstarting these conversations to move that into figuring out what are the kinds of actions we need to take, and how do we operationalize ethics. That’s really what’s going to be absolutely at the core of it. And what’s challenging is that, you know, we’ve had technology in the mainstream for I would say, for over 20 years now, at least 30 plus years, we’ve used technology on an everyday basis. And it’s taken us so long to come to the point where we are right now. Now, undoubtedly, AI and related technologies will accelerate the pace of change, and AI will teach itself and machine and robotics and Internet of Things will all come together. I really don’t see that happening for the next five to seven years, or even 10 years. All right, the scenarios that are posted in the movies and media, I think they’re pretty far away based on oil in some pockets. Maybe yes, you might see a lot of automation. But when we look at generally AI dominating in running different things across the world, where do you see it kind of becoming the mainstream? What timeframe would you give it? So it’s interesting when we’ve been a couple of studies done qualitative studies with relatively large bundles of experts in a variety of domains with this question on whether we Hitting what type of AI development or dominance etc. And I think what everybody agrees upon is you know how wildly they agree upon the timelines for when something will happen, but everybody agrees that you know, it will happen at some point, I think, you know, what is what is automation is one part we will the Coronavirus was will also accelerate this because organizations need to double down on innovation. That’s sort of the hard part because during crisis, typically innovation suffers. But they also of course, need to double down on efficiency and effectiveness. And that means automation. And that means leveraging AI then even faster pace and then what they were already doing, but then it’s consumer, right. So it’s you know, it’s Amazon, its Alexa, that’s where it’s coming from, right. It’s about you know, evermore convenience for the consumer ever more customer centricity for the consumer AI, plays and can play a huge role in this generally speaking, as consumers, we, you know, we’re suckers for convenience, right? If we can get it more convenient, we want it if we can get it more customized wants and needs, we want that and that does whoever can provide that. And, you know, Amazon’s is way ahead in this game right now. And they want Alexa to be your digital assistant that you know, sits on your I don’t know if it’s the left or right shoulder 24 seven, and you know, whisper to you, you know, how you should act and move and purchase right so that they’re pushing this massive plan. And you know, we can talk about levels here. But there’s already what 100 million Alexis out there in the world. So I don’t see that stopping at all, I only see that accelerating for sure. And I think one of the core reasons for how fast this adoption will accelerate and to what extent the AI assistant digital assistants, whether we want to call them what role they’re able to play in our lives will, to a very large extent depend on legislation, and what our governments will allow? Absolutely. I want to read something from the books. It’s from your chapter. And it says these human workers will in effect, have an AI boss telling them what to do evaluating their work, and ultimately deciding whether they deserve a raise a bonus, a warning or termination. I think in some industries, where there’s high level of automation, I don’t know if they, you know, what kind of workers will still be working in a factory where there’s so much automation, that technology is your boss, what industries Do you see where the role of technology will be much higher, let’s say, you know, 98% of your employees are AI robot robots machines, and maybe one or two or 5% are humans. So I guess ultimately, it’s gonna come down to cost. And so in some cases, you are able to automate something, but you don’t do it, because it’s actually still cheaper to have a human being doing it, at least for now. And then, you know, at a certain point, maybe technology will be able to take over if there’s an incentive to develop a cost effective enough technology. And maybe there isn’t, depending on, you know, the cost of the human labor hand. So, but it points to the notion of the freelancer right, which is, you know, there’s one study that suggests that it by 27 50% of the American workforce will be freelancers working in the gig economy, right. Again, Coronavirus here that’s accelerating this for sure. With these incredible terrible numbers we see upon employment, right and the you know, notion of a cakewalk, and being a freelancer is great if you have real unique skill sets, and you can choose your jobs, and you can have a really great paycheck come out of it as well. But for the majority of people being a freelancer and being part of the gig economy that is need that is not want, and that will accelerate. And that will increase dramatically. And to the extent we already see what the Googles of the world, they have more contractors than they have full time employees, right, because they don’t need to provide the same salaries and the same benefits to them. So it’s much more cost effective for them to do that. So unless our legislators do something about this, there’s no doubt this will be to like the 90 plus percent degree be the predominant way that human beings will be working, they know down the line here and whether they will be able to do that in a guess even more in a better way than what is currently the case for the majority I think will depend on whether they will be able to unionize. And I think guess for unions, this is their chance to really come back and claim a spot in history that they used to have as well, but they have sort of lost over the last two years. I completely am blown away with some of the possibilities that are possible in the world of tomorrow. And hopefully, we’ll have better mechanisms of predicting disease and coming up with treatments and cures and things that are unsolvable right now. Like right now. I think we’re literally at the mercy of many different elements around us and we’re unable to do anything but hopefully hope is something hope an action that people take is something that keeps us going forward. Chris, I know we’re limited on time and tell us more about Singularity University and where people can check your work out, Singularity University out and some of the ways they can start learning and engaging with the university. It’s a great time to learn Yeah, absolutely. So we’re an educational institution and our education programs focus on how to leverage technology to solve the really big problems in the world, what we call the global grand challenges and you can check singularity Nordic out issue nordic.org, which is based in the Nordic countries here out of Copenhagen, there’s an su.org as well, which is global, if you like. What we do is similar around the world, we have education programs to help people understand technologies better and more importantly, understand how they can leverage the technologies both on a societal organizational and individual level to make a positive impact in the world. There’s also the podcast I recently started in collaboration with Singularity University called the corporate innovation podcast you can find it on your streaming services of choice where every week I’m talking to a world leading innovator with a lot of innovation dirt under their nails to really understand how to think innovation in order to create 10 x impact so I couldn’t wait definitely recommend them to check that out as well. Amazing. a quiz thank you so much for your time and helping us understand where we’re headed. Again, everybody grab a copy of Aftershock is available on Amazon. And it’s really a great read if you want to understand what forces shape the future and what you should do and how things are evolving. Chris cannot thank you enough for taking the time for us. Thank you so much, and you have an amazing time and hopefully we’ll catch up in the future. Wonderful. Thank you so much for having me. My pleasure. Thank you. Hey, friend, this is Ian Khan. If you liked what you saw on my video, then please subscribe to my YouTube channel and be inspired every single day with innovative content that keeps you fresh, updated and ready for the future. For more information. Also visit my website at Ian khan.com

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Donna Dupont, Chief Strategist, Foresight & Design at Purple Compass with Ian Khan Futurist.

In this episode i speak with Donna Dupont, a co-contributor to the recent book “After Shock”.

Bio

As the Founder and Chief Strategist in Foresight & Design for Purple Compass, Donna Dupont brings skills and insights developed over 20 years working with leaders in healthcare, emergency management, government public policy, strategic planning and program design. She has facilitated a range of foresight and design activities for clients in healthcare, emergency management and military.

Donna’s interests are at the intersection between climate change adaptation, disaster risk reduction and sustainable development. Her aim is to collaborate with communities and organizations, and use strategic foresight and design methods to empower and strengthen local capacity, health services, public safety and security. ​​

Prior to Purple Compass, Donna held a variety of senior roles within Ontario’s Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care in both healthcare and emergency management. She also worked on the front-lines as a Registered Respiratory Therapist during the SARS crisis. Donna is a recipient of seven government awards at the provincial and federal level for outstanding achievement, excellence and partner relations in policy and strategic planning.

Donna is a Master of Design candidate in Strategic Foresight & Innovation (2020) at OCAD University, has a BHA in Health Services Management from Ryerson University, and completed continuing education with Harvard Humanitarian Academy, United Nations Institute for Training and Research and the Stockholm Resilience Centre. She is a member of the Association of Professional Futurists (APF), International Association of Emergency Managers (IAEM), and the Canadian Risks & Hazards Network (CRHNet).

About After Shock

The world’s foremost futurists reflect on 50 years of Future Shock—and look ahead to the next 50

Contributors include:

Alan Kay
Aaron Frank
Adrienne Mayor
Alexander Mankowsky
Alexandra Ivanovitch
Alisha Bhagat
Amy Zalman
Anders Sorman-Nilsson
Andra Keay
Andrew Curry
Andy Hines
Anita Sengupta
Anne Lise Kjaer
Aris Persidis
Aubrey de Grey
Barry O’Reilly
Barry Vacker
Bill Davidow
Bill Diamond
Bryan Alexander
Byron Reese
Carlos Osorio
Carver Mead
Cat Tully
Cindy Frewen
Clem Bezold
Daniel Burrus
Daniel Levine
David Brin
David Guston
David Krakauer
David J. Staley
David Weinberger
Deb Westphal
Diane M. Francis
Donna Dupont
Eleanor “Nell” Watson
Eric Daimler
Erica Bol
Erik Qualman
Fotis Sotiropoulos
George Gilder
Grady Booch
Gray Scott
Hannes Sjoblad
Harish Natarajan
Hazel Henderson
Helen Messier
Ian Khan
Ignacio Pena
Jack Uldrich
James Canton
Jane McGonigal
Jason Jackson
Jason Schenker
Jay Gambetta
Jeff Eisenach
Jeffrey C. Bauer
Jerome Glenn
Jerry Fishenden
Joe Dispenza
Joe Tankersley
Joel Garreau
John L. Petersen
John M. Smart
John Sack
John Sanei
John Schroeter
Jonathan Venn
José Morey
Kaitlyn Sadtler
Kirk Borne
Klee Irwin
Kris Østergaard
Lisa Bodell
Maciej Kranz
Martin Guigui
Martin Rees
Maggie Greyson
Michael Tomczyk
Michel Laberge
Mick Ebeling
Moon Ribas
Naveen Jain
Neil Jacobstein
Newt Gingrich
Patricia Lustig & Gill Ringland
Paul Saffo
Paul Stimers
Po Bronson & Arvind Gupta
Ray Kurzweil
Rebecca Costa
Richard Browning
Richard Slaughter
Richard Watson
Richard Yonck
Rodrigo Nieto Gómez
Rohit Bhargava
Ross Dawson
Ruth Miller
Sanjiv Chopra & Pankaj K Vij
Sohail Inayatullah
Sridhar Mahadevan
Stan Rosen
Stephanie Mehta
Steve Waite
Tanya Accone
Terrence (Terry) Sejnowski
Teun Koetsier
Theodore Jay Gordon
Thomas Frey
Timothy Chou
Vikram Mansharamani
Wolfgang Fengler
Zoltan Istvan

Publication Details
ISBN Print: 978-0-9997364-4-9
ISBN eBook: 978-0-9997364-5-6

Full Transcript : Hi friends this is Ian Khan and you’re listening to the Ian Khan show. And this is an aftershock special episode. In today’s episode I’m speaking with Donna DuPont, who’s the founder and chief strategist and foresight in design for purple compass. with a focus on disaster risk management and sustainable development. Donna is in the final stage of completing her master of design and strategic foresight and innovation at OCAD University and she lives in Toronto over to Donna. Donna. Welcome to the Ian Khan show. It is such a pleasure to have you now first of all, you and I are book contributors to this amazing book that came out some time ago aftershock, which was written 50 years now I want our listeners to understand 50 to five zero half a century ago gentleman named Alvin Toffler wrote a book called Future Shock in which he wrote about the future tomorrow the changes that will happen, and in aftershock we wrote about you and I and 50 other contributors wrote about our thoughts and ideas of Future Shock in the world we are living in.

So welcome to the show, and the special series featuring aftershock contributors. How are you today? Well, thank you for the invitation. And I’m doing well. I mean, considering the time that we’re living in right now and all of the change and the turbulence, I’m finding a way to, to manage day to day. Yeah, and I think a lot of people are trying to also figure out the new normal going forward. Now let’s talk about the new normal, you are a practicing futurist you. This is your work, you live futurism for a living, help us understand, is this something that is part of this incredible change that was supposed to happen that Oscar wrote about? Is this one of those things? You need? Specifically the pandemic? Yes, yes. Well, I mean, infectious disease type emergencies isn’t new. They’ve been around, we’ve had them before, but they are really complex type of emergencies. And so what we’ve learned from this particular experience is that a lot of our assumptions or perspectives, perceptions of what we thought would happen, are totally being challenged right now, in so many ways. And what we are seeing is a lot of the social and economic cascading consequences of this particular health emergency. And so I think for a lot of people, you know, and myself included working in the emergency management space, we’ve done scenarios, we’ve done pandemic planning, this is really challenging for our assumptions as well in so many different ways. And I think it is an incredible learning opportunity to to understand the broader system and the vulnerabilities that exist right now and to have conversations about the future, I believe. So know, one of the things that and I’ve spoken with so many incredible people who contributed to this book, one of the reasons being soil. So the other night de la, who’s based out of Australia, amazing futurist, and tons of other people. Now, everyone I’ve spoken to, from a futurism angle, is saying, Hey, you know, it was supposed to happen one way or the other, if it’s not, the pandemic, it’s going to be an asteroid, if it’s not an asteroid, it’s going to be a tsunami, it’s one thing or the other, that’ll keep on happening, because change is not changes constantly. The world has a very dynamic nature. And as we keep an eye in people in the world, we are we’re battling with just one specific event. There’s many other things happening in the world, which are great, which are good that probably Toffler wrote about in his books, as well. Tell me a little bit about Toffler and his work. Have you read his work intensively? Are you inspired by his work? Tell me about your experience? Well, I am inspired by taufers work, and I’m inspired from just the perspective of adaptation, and that changing environment and how, as a society, we need to adapt and evolve. And I think that’s an important concept that is not necessarily recognized a lot today, I think a lot of organizations, people really have a very, potentially a very static type of view of the system or the broader environment. And so don’t really think about it as constantly emerging or changing and don’t necessarily pick up on those signals in the system on whether or not those signals might be relevant to their personal lives or to their professional lives. And so I think that this I love the notion of this constant adaptation, and that we need to be mindful, we need to be aware and we need to be prepared to adapt and pivot. And I think that’s what we’re exactly seeing right now with COVID-19. We’re seeing a lot of different organizations and also people they’re everyone’s lives are shifting and based on this particular crisis, and so we are having to change our havior is the way we do business. And for a lot of organizations from a business perspective, they’re pivoting their business models, there’s a lot of uncertainty and they may need to redefine going into the future. So they will need a stronger, different vision post COVID. Amazing. I actually want to read something from your essay in the book that I think aligns with this, you say, and I’m quoting, as is true for many organizations, the emergency disaster management community has a tendency to think and behave in short term cycles moving from crisis to crisis stuck in the cycle of disaster response recovery loop, the knowledge gained from emergency events is not fully mobilized into long term planning, in anticipation of emerging and future risk. And this is what I want to ask you about, how do we get ready for future risk? How do we plan for future risk? It’s a good question, I think the first place to start is our perception of risk, and to really take a look and have those conversations about what is our perspective, our assumptions, our internal biases, and to take a more systems lens of looking at risk. And I see this kind of playing out right now with the pandemic. And you’ll see right now your different countries have different assessments of risk around the pandemic. And based on that risk, they’re making decisions around public health protection measures. And that’s an important assessment, right, because you’re going to see differences across the board. And some of those decisions might be influenced from economic lens, a political lens, there might be other issues at play that we’re not aware of. So I think the whole discussion around future risk needs to be to start with our perception, what we what we what are our biases, perspectives of risk, and then and have a conversation about what’s emerging. Right. And that requires new skill sets, new ways of engaging with risk. So not just looking at risk from a modeling perspective of predictive analytics, and just very limited variables, but to really recognize the complexity of systems and where the modeling the predictive models end is an opportunity to pick up with foresight methodology, to have more of that holistic view of what’s emerging around risk, and also identifying those areas of uncertainty. Because that can be a very problematic space for a lot of organizations, understanding how to work with uncertainty how to generate agency for change a lot of people if they’re uncertain than they just don’t go there or have that conversation. But I think it’s important to be open to having those those conversations. Now, does this have anything to do with how we’re able to use emerging technology to maybe accelerate this learning process, because I really believe the art and the skill of predictive modeling, predictive analytics, futurism foresight, it’s a very specific and narrow field practice by very few people, of people like yourself, experts, and they know what they’re doing. One of the challenges in the common world is that people are unable to see the future. they’re unable to just imagine 10 years from now or five years now, because people are so busy in their everyday lives, their job, their mortgage, their car payments. I mean, get this knowledge across to the common people. So they can say, Hey, COVID-19, here are the lessons that we can learn from it. And maybe now think in broader terms, what should we do? And technology being wonderful? Is technology a part of this? Yeah, well, technology also provides opportunities. So So I think it’s important to leverage technology. But I also think it’s important to understand the limitations of technology, right, and to recognize that and to be able to, to add to that in terms of a more inclusive approach to futures and engaging a larger audience. And that could be whole of society, which we’re seeing engaged right now in COVID-19. I think there needs to be a new way of having this conversation, perhaps perhaps making it less mysterious around futures and more about a dynamic conversation. Perhaps technology can be that tool to reach, you know, people within a network certainly is something that can be scaled, but it doesn’t necessarily have to be done in a digital environment. I think sometimes great conversations can happen in person, obviously limited right now. So I think there is a need to rethink how we democratize foresight and and make it relatable to make it accessible to the average person and somehow people can participate in conversations in different ways, other than perhaps a formal workshops are other methods that have been used. Yeah. And I you know what one of the things that we’ve seen to 2020 during this COVID crises that has been unleashed on humanity is how fast some things have progressed, have ideas of digital transformation, people using zoom and one of these platforms to communicate. And pre 2020 it was a nightmare talking to people about giving the example about the accounting industry, tons of my clients were getting got in the accounting industry, it’s really hard to move, get them to move from one place to the other, because that’s the nature of the business. But now things are moving. So the challenge has also brought upon acceleration of change rate. And that is so interesting, huh? Definitely, I think, especially the use of technology, this pandemic has certainly created a situation where people are forced to change. And so it’s definitely opened up a lot of new opportunities. I think many organizations and people have really tried to reimagine, you know, how they can conduct their day to day activities or the businesses on in a virtual way. So I think that’s, that’s wonderful to see him as well. You’ve asked some really critical questions and some really nice questions in your article. So you talk about accelerations and the pace of change that, hey, the increasing pace of environment change is more visible. But having said that, you’ve talked about I can’t help but ask and you’ve asked a few questions. Why does Why does our society lack the collective will to take out? Why are we not acting with urgency proportional to the scale of the threat? And we’re living that right now? How can we wake up from this sleep walk nightmare? Could we be suffering from normalcy bias, thinking that if you stay the course everything will go back to normal? No, my question to you is, have you found the answers to any of these questions? Well, I’m certainly seeking the answers. So. But I do know that many people and I’ve seen a number of articles talk about that there is no going back to normal. And so I think this normalcy bias is being challenged in a number of ways with COVID-19. And I think that’s quite fascinating. And certainly I’m connecting in with a lot of my colleagues, both in the futures space, but also in emergency management space to understand what their perspective is around all of this and get their insights on what’s transpiring. But with that need for the future for the profession as well. Yeah, absolutely. I also believe that many people are saying this is the new normal, the era that COVID-19 has created is the new normal, I have a problem with that. Because I don’t believe I think we’re in a transitionary phase, we are always in a phase of transition. And I think there’s somewhere else we need to go because we can be a normal, in a state of crises, I refuse to accept it. Because people are amazing, we do incredible work, we’ve surpassed all our challenges in the past. So there’s got to be something better ahead in our life. And we should strive for achieving that or getting there. So I think the new normal is up ahead. It’s in the future. And I think it’s, it’s about convincing people to see beyond the crises and saying, hey, everything’s gonna be alright, just work on your game, start thinking about what you want to do, act on it, and then move forward. That’s kind of my thought. I don’t know if you agree or not. You know, I agree with that. I think you’re quite right in that because I also see this as this is a turbulent time. And so there’s just so much activity happening, I think most people are just trying to keep pace. But this discussions have shifted in the last little while around recovery. And and so this is an interesting time, because this is the recovery phase of trying to find a way back. And I don’t think it will be, you know, back to the way it was, I think this is the the adjustment of the path towards that new normal. And I think along this path, this is the recovery side of the work we do in emergency management. This is where we’re really doing a lot of reflecting work, and we’re doing a lot of lessons learned. And so that’s an opportunity as well to help shape about that future trajectory. And the profession in emergency management is very much focused on a vision of resiliency, and sustainability. And so I think my question is, while we’re recovering, what’s that bigger vision? What does that resilient vision look like, given what we’ve learned with COVID-19? And this whole of society type of approach that was needed to really respond to the pandemic? And what are those relationships going to look like with communities with businesses going forward? And so I think it’s an interesting time and I agree, we are just starting to perhaps head down that path and around what that future could be. If you can share, maybe help us understand what our business community’s thinking right now maybe help us understand you know, some conversations that you’re having with your clients? And how are you helping them understand, you know, here’s how you unpack today’s era and how you get out of it. I just want our audiences to learn from you, how do you do it as a futurist, and then maybe start thinking in that direction? I think a lot of the conversations I’ve been having with my clients have been around how to navigate this, obviously, they’re thinking about it from a short term recovery. So more near term foresight, and just how to pivot how to adapt. So it’s a little bit of a combination of just not not just foresight, but a bit of adaptation, and a bit of pivoting business models. So it’s been that kind of learning. But in terms of the longer view post COVID. I think that where a lot of our conversations have been going is around, what could the environment that future operational environment look like? What are the issues that we’re seeing emerge? And how is that going to impact the business in those environment? And will those businesses be sustainable? Will they be relevant and given what’s happening in the broader system shifts? And so I’m thinking and specifically around shoes of we’re seeing cyber issues, right, I have some clients that deal a lot in the information, space, and cyberspace. And so with all of these new types of behaviors happening in that space, what does that mean, for a lot of organizations, the way they do their business, if they have to maintain a business online, virtually what different new types of capabilities or processes need to be in place, what new functions and maybe new resources. So that’s just one example. But I think that a lot of organizations are really trying to understand in the near term around how to pivot their business model. So this is where I think scenarios can be helpful. And I tend to work with critical uncertainties in the near term, and just to create to really work on those areas where there’s the most impact to the business, and then to facilitate and have those conversations to get at the some deeper insights that could help pivot their business model. They may not have a full vision of where they would like to take it. But at least they have a sense with some of the dimensions of uncertainty where they may need to navigate. Absolutely, yeah. And it in a very similar rhetoric needs from clients is know where do we go next? What do we do next? I really believe everybody needs to become a futurist have a sword. I mean, business leaders especially have to be able to anticipate change. They’ve got to be able to anticipate what happens in business and how to react to it. It’s a part of what they’ve signed up for. So no, readily said, Donna, thank you so much for joining us again. I want to point out to viewers, that aftershock is available on Amazon, I believe it’s available now it was on pre orders now and you myself 50 Plus, other amazing people have contributed to this book. I really believe this is a read of a lifetime. If you read and have a copy of Aftershock, you really will understand many different things. I’ve interviewed people who are medical doctors, to scientists to people who are the head of SETI yourself. There’s incredible people in this series, quite a bit aftershock. So I really am suggesting to everybody buy a copy of Aftershock. And if you don’t have the money to buy it, tell me send me a message. And I will send you a copy of Aftershock. I have a few extra copies lying around. I don’t I know, we don’t have a lot of time with you. But help us finally tell us maybe give us three things give us or three or four or two things that we should do right away, to change our tomorrow to change our future to make it better to get into this tomorrow where we perhaps control things or have a better outcome than what we have today. If that makes sense? Well, I think the first place to start is just awareness, you know, starting with oneself and personal awareness of the environment, what’s shifting around you and and how that’s having an impact on your day to day life. I think then the second part would be the next layer in terms of your work, right and awareness around the impacts of shifting environment in your work, and then really being open to different ways of exploring the future. So what I mean is that really pay attention to what’s shifting, you know, in the environment and think about what does that change in the system mean for me on a personal level, or what could it mean for the work I do and I think just having that first stage of awareness It would be a really big step. And then from there, perhaps then it will lead to other questions around what is possible. What could happen down the road, even if it’s, you know, six months down the road, what if, and, and having those types of conversations, to start to, to start to think differently about the future and to be open to the need to pivot, and to shift and to not be afraid of change? I think that’s would be a great starting point. Thanks so much. That makes perfect sense. Where can we find more about you? Where can people go and contact you or check out your website or see the incredible work that you do? Oh, thank you. So for more information on the work that myself or my team does, you can go to our website, purple compass, at www dot purple compass.ca. And we have a list of different projects collaborations, as well as services. We recently launched the emergency management futures lab this year. So there’s a lot of new exciting initiatives that were part of and so we would love to hear from you. And if you have any questions, please feel free to reach out. Incredible Donna, thank you so much. I wish you your team and incredible and safe time ahead of purple compass.ca is where you are at your team is at so I’m openly telling anybody who need help in futures and helping understand tomorrow you’re in Toronto, especially contact Donna and team and see where that goes. Right. And thank you so much for being part of this conversation. Let’s chat soon and thank you very much. Thank you so much. Take care Thank you. Hey, friend, this is Ian Khan. If you like what you saw on my video, then please subscribe to my YouTube channel and be inspired every single day with innovative content that keeps you fresh, updated and ready for the future. For more information. Also visit my website at Ian khan.com

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Daniele Levine, Top Innovation Trends Speaker in conversation with Futurist Ian Khan

In this episode i speak with globally recognized Futurist Daniel Levine, also a co-contributor to the recent book “After Shock”.

Bio

Daniel Levine is a trusted consultant to major companies and brands worldwide. He is regularly featured in newspapers and magazines and is often on television and radio including CNN, NBC and others.

Mr. Levine is the director of the Avant-Guide Institute and the global editor of the popular trends website WikiTrend.org where he leads a large international team of trend spotters; over 9000 researchers who chronicle the latest ideas, products and experiences from around the globe.

-Founding Director of the Avant- Guide Institute trends consultancy
-Bestselling Author of 11 books on trends, business, travel and marketing
-Keynote Speaker with over 266 presentations in 37+ Industries
-Corporate Consultant for American Express, Intel, HBO, NBC, BMW & many more
-Global Leader of WikiTrend.org for business professionals

Learn more about Daniel at https://daniellevine.com/​

About After Shock

The world’s foremost futurists reflect on 50 years of Future Shock—and look ahead to the next 50

Contributors include:

Alan Kay
Aaron Frank
Adrienne Mayor
Alexander Mankowsky
Alexandra Ivanovitch
Alisha Bhagat
Amy Zalman
Anders Sorman-Nilsson
Andra Keay
Andrew Curry
Andy Hines
Anita Sengupta
Anne Lise Kjaer
Aris Persidis
Aubrey de Grey
Barry O’Reilly
Barry Vacker
Bill Davidow
Bill Diamond
Bryan Alexander
Byron Reese
Carlos Osorio
Carver Mead
Cat Tully
Cindy Frewen
Clem Bezold
Daniel Burrus
Daniel Levine
David Brin
David Guston
David Krakauer
David J. Staley
David Weinberger
Deb Westphal
Diane M. Francis
Donna Dupont
Eleanor “Nell” Watson
Eric Daimler
Erica Bol
Erik Qualman
Fotis Sotiropoulos
George Gilder
Grady Booch
Gray Scott
Hannes Sjoblad
Harish Natarajan
Hazel Henderson
Helen Messier
Ian Khan
Ignacio Pena
Jack Uldrich
James Canton
Jane McGonigal
Jason Jackson
Jason Schenker
Jay Gambetta
Jeff Eisenach
Jeffrey C. Bauer
Jerome Glenn
Jerry Fishenden
Joe Dispenza
Joe Tankersley
Joel Garreau
John L. Petersen
John M. Smart
John Sack
John Sanei
John Schroeter
Jonathan Venn
José Morey
Kaitlyn Sadtler
Kirk Borne
Klee Irwin
Kris Østergaard
Lisa Bodell
Maciej Kranz
Martin Guigui
Martin Rees
Maggie Greyson
Michael Tomczyk
Michel Laberge
Mick Ebeling
Moon Ribas
Naveen Jain
Neil Jacobstein
Newt Gingrich
Patricia Lustig & Gill Ringland
Paul Saffo
Paul Stimers
Po Bronson & Arvind Gupta
Ray Kurzweil
Rebecca Costa
Richard Browning
Richard Slaughter
Richard Watson
Richard Yonck
Rodrigo Nieto Gómez
Rohit Bhargava
Ross Dawson
Ruth Miller
Sanjiv Chopra & Pankaj K Vij
Sohail Inayatullah
Sridhar Mahadevan
Stan Rosen
Stephanie Mehta
Steve Waite
Tanya Accone
Terrence (Terry) Sejnowski
Teun Koetsier
Theodore Jay Gordon
Thomas Frey
Timothy Chou
Vikram Mansharamani
Wolfgang Fengler
Zoltan Istvan

Full Transcript : Hi friends and welcome to the Ian Khan show. You’re listening to a special episode of The aftershock series, which where I interview co contributors to the recent book aftershock. My guest today is Daniel Levine, who’s one of the world’s best known trans experts. He’s named the ultimate guru of cool by CNN, and he’s a frequent guest on TV and radio. He’s the director of avant garde Institute, based out of New York helps people understand the future. Let’s speak with Daniel. Hi, Daniel. Welcome to the Ian Khan Show. Hey, I’m so excited to be speaking with you. Because you are quite the man you are the person who is the go to person for trends. And you’ve been doing this for many, many years. You and I are both part of Aftershock. This is something our good friend Joshua put together. And we’ll talk about that and many other things in the few minutes.

Welcome to the show. Yeah, thank you. It’s a pleasure to be here. And I wish we were here in person, but I guess that’s gonna have to wait a little bit. So COVID has changed the world? I don’t know. And I don’t think Toffler wrote about that, among many things that he did, but it’s really I mean, I’ve been speaking with so many different people. Nobody was expecting it. Yes, everybody knows there are many viruses and they are sitting in some labs, but nobody was expecting this kind of change to happen to an everyday world. What are your thoughts off this 2020 being the year off? COVID-19? You know, there’s really only one story this year, right? It’s the main thing that’s affecting so many people’s lives. And it’s where it’s gonna go. I think, you know, a lot of the people who you’re interviewing on your podcast, have a lot of ideas about that. And I’m sure we’ll get into some of those things today, where I think I’m probably different from many of the people that you speak with is I don’t consider myself a futurist. I consider myself a trends expert. And by that, I mean, I don’t look at sort of pie in the sky prognostications about what might be happening 50 years from now, I’m really looking at the next, you know, three to five years and even closer than that, based on things that we’re actually going through right now. So my specialty, along with the avant garde Institute is looking at changes that are happening in culture as we are living them. And then extrapolating what that may look like. And I think that’s important, because it’s really difficult for most people to see where they are when they’re in the middle of it. You know, so many people right now are freaking out about, about the future, the near future, because it’s hard to see what the next few months are gonna look like, when you’re so deeply impacted by what’s going on right now. You agree? Yep. Yeah, absolutely. And bang on you’re you’re right. And I’ll tell you what other people have been talking about. So among all the contributors of Aftershock, I probably have had so far, maybe 80% of all the contributors who I’ve spoken with 80% of them, until now. And these people, some of them are doctors, some of their MD, some of them are specialists, some of them the head of SETI search for extraterrestrial, and doesn’t like people like that. And everybody has a different perspective on especially COVID-19, that we’re all in it together. First of all, nobody was expecting it to happen. Number two, the disruption on common life and all the things that we find are right around us and we have access to them. Seven, you cannot do it. So it’s been a shock for everybody. That’s been a bit of a shock for everybody that you can’t just go out anymore, you can go out and you can go for a meeting. And so that disruption of life, something that Toffler talks in a different way that, hey, the pace of change will be rapid. But it’s more like a direction change rather than an amplification of that what I think is really interesting about one of the things that’s very interesting, about tumblers book was his main thesis was that we’re going through this malaise that we’re going to have because the world is moving so quickly, and you know, we can’t catch up. We weren’t built physically to catch up to how quickly the world is moving right now. But what sort of strikes me and I think sort of taps a hopeful note for us is that the world seems to be moving so much faster now than even Toffler expected. And yet, humans have sort of proven to be adaptable. And we have caught up in many ways. You know, that Malays is I don’t really see that as being a major part of our culture, especially when you look at younger people who, you know, people who who grew up in the were born in the internet era that’s just normal and natural to them and people who who are sort of born into eras that seem natural to them, and their genes are not don’t seem to be holding them back from surviving and thriving in the society. So I think I like that from I think it’s sort of a positive note for us with what’s happening with with the COVID crisis. And I think, you know, when you look at this crisis in terms of like, the next year, your job, my job, and many of your people who are watching this, people are writing them, and rightly so. But if you take a longer term view, if you look at your work and your life over the next 10 years, then I think things become feel feel better, like the world will go back to a semblance of the way it was before. Do you think so? I think we reached you know, top and I’m going to backtrack a little bit you You talk a lot about and I’ve been following your work as well, you talk a lot about the adaptation of trends, you talk a lot about, Hey, this is what’s happening down the line, this is potentially what will happen. Interesting, amazing stuff, I love it, bang on. And here comes COVID-19. It just amplifies and accelerates some parts of our life, for example, web conferencing, or remote work or work from home or whatever you call it. And nobody expected that to happen at such a fast pace. Now, we’re all talking about, Hey, this is the new normal, I don’t think this is the new normal, I think the new normal is coming until we adapt and go through this change. But here we go. We have had rapid acceleration in some things. And some things will be amazing, because now we’ve really found out these cool things to do and better way of doing things. I think the new normal interest me the tomorrow that we will arrive that after we stabilize, and we cannot have this crisis is something that excites me, because that will be a better, faster, more efficient world. And probably this, you know, it’s like going on, it’s like a boost. It’s a shot of adrenaline that humanity’s going through. And I think it’s amazing, it’s taken us out from that malaise and rapidly accelerated what we do. Right? You know, I, I’ve heard people refer to this place that we’re in right now as either the great reset, or the great pause. And I think you probably have heard both of those as well. And many people watching. And to me, those are sort of different ideas, it’s different ways of looking at what we’re going through and how we’re going to come out of it. The great reset, I think is talking about, you know, the kind of thing that you were just mentioning that we’re going to come out of it in a different kind of a world than we are today. And no one’s sure exactly what that’s going to look like. But it will be created. And then the other side of it is it’s the great pause that we’re just sort of taking a few months now to everyone’s stopping their lives. Not everyone, but most people sort of stopping their lives, pausing their lives. And then things after COVID ends, everything will get back to normal. Yeah, yeah, those feel like two different ideas to me. Yeah. And I actually am more of a great pause guy. So I think that there will be changes for sure, of course. But when I look at, you know, humanity, and the basis between the way that we act, it has to do with, you know, who people are, we’re social beings, we’re selfish beings. And all of those sort of core things about humanity don’t change. So I’m reading and hearing so many people talk about, oh, this can be fantastic, we’re going to come out of it, you know, loving our neighbors more and appreciating our lives more. And unfortunately, I think for the most part, Bs, and one of the reasons I see that is when you look at in the United States, the the stimulus money that the government is giving to small businesses is being first of all, it’s being distributed through banks who are distributing it to their biggest clients, because they get the biggest fees on that. And it’s going to publicly traded companies who are giving or giving money to their investors, we’re in the middle of this thing. And it’s not changing people’s behavior, it’s sort of people are talking about, it’s gonna be wonderful. But what I’m seeing is people are people, unfortunately, and in, you know, a few years from now, it’s going to be closer to the great pause than the great reset. Do you think a reason for that is the fact that our world is, let’s say, moving fast, because of technology and all of these things, distractions, and they’ll all of that is still I mean, people are watching more Netflix right now. They’re watching more television and online shows and all of that, right? So they’re distracting themselves with all of these things, despite the fact that we’re all sitting at home. I think there could be a reason for the fact that people will go back to their old way of doing things maybe after six months or a year or two years, is because of the world around them. It’s because that’s what the world around them looks like. And I agree with you that there’s a huge possibility that people will just Come out of this once they go back to their jobs, and they’ll feel good for a month. But then after two months, they’ll you know, it’s like going on a vacation one month coming back from your vacation, you feel you never gone on a vacation. Right. Right. And so it’s possible. Yes, it’s interesting. Let me let me say something about a more sort of positive level, which is that, you know, trends, some, some trends change quickly. And some change, some change more incrementally. And I think there’s a lot of people who are hoping that this is such a big deal, that it’s going to, you know, create a sea change in the way people act and the way the world is. And in some cases, it will. But in some cases, what’s actually I think is going to happen is that more incremental change, and if I look back at 2008, after the Great Recession, it did change the way that people acted in their lives, especially younger people, when I think about young millennials at the time, who felt that maybe it’s not the way that they want to live their lives. It’s not like their parents accruing stuff that sort of led to the so called sharing economy, people not wanting to be indebted, as much, especially younger people, it could change people’s attitudes. And I think this will change people’s attitudes in a similar way. And depending on how deep the economic malaise is, it could change people’s attitudes in the way that our, you know, grandparents and some of your watchers, great grandparents change their attitudes after the Great Depression, they lived in a depression mentality the rest of their lives, that that very well could happen. I think the key is, and I feel this is my opinion, that people who despite these times of whatever change, they’re going through people who continue to invest in themselves, they continue to read, they continue to learn, they continue to do all these things that can so that they are getting ready for when things open up, they can do things better, I think they are, they will get the maximum benefit out of this, we’re constantly on a path of self improvement, because that’s what change creates change. You know, that’s the other side of change is self improvement world is changing fast. You look at yourself and improve yourself faster and faster and faster. So I really hope those are gonna come out on the top. I do believe also that all these stimuluses that governments are giving in Canada, United States, a few other places, it’s going to come back in form of taxes in form of other things. So it’s not free money that’s being distributed. But of course, it’s helping people keep doors open and, you know, small businesses wherever they’re, they’re struggling. So I think it’s a great thing. But But people also need to keep Be aware that, you know, it’s got to be paid back with interest. There’s no such thing as a free lunch. I want to ask you about trends. You know, many times you probably come across people, who are the naysayers who don’t believe in your trends, who say, hey, Daniel, I don’t think that’s going to happen. I don’t think cars will ever fly. Come on, tell us something different. How do you work with those people? Or what’s your response to those people? Well, to be honest, it I actually don’t usually get those responses, mainly, because when I’m talking about things that will happen, I’m informed by things that are already happening. So I’m using those as examples. This is how things morph in the world. So let me give you an example. You know, I’m often asked, What’s the difference between a trend and a fad, because people often confuse those two things. And one of the main there’s a few differentiators, but one of the main ones is longevity. So you know, fad is oftentimes something that happens comes on quickly and leaves quickly. And a trend is something more long lasting, that you can make a business plan around. So when it comes to like wearable technology, is that a trend or a fad? wearable technology? And my argument is that wearable technology is a trend because humans have been wearing technology since almost the beginning of humanity when it was a sword by their side will is any particular product, you know, watch or headset or anything is that the trend probably not the those things. Anything that has a brand on it is usually a fad or part of a bigger trend. So by using examples like that, I think that this is a way that I explain where the world is heading. And that it’s not that that’s why I’m not making these, you know, guesses about 50 years from now. But what some of the things are trends and fads that you’re seeing come out of this COVID-19 crises? Well, I think one of the thing that struck me when you were telling me that you’re speaking to people from all different industries, you know, what I do is I sort of bring those all together to understand the big trends because trends are not siloed by industry trends are about what people are thinking and feeling. And you know, we’re all looking for the same trends to be answered in every part of our lives, the cars we buy the clothing, we wear, the vacations, we will eventually take, again, for ourselves. It’s about it’s about lifestyle and the way that we perceive ourselves and want to be perceived by others. So what struck me when you were telling me this about all these people from different industries is I think one of the things that ties all of that together, is that we’re seeing right now an acceleration of many of the trends that were already in motion. And I think that I’m sure you’re seeing that as well, he and this is sort of a time, this, this, this culture quake that we’re in is accelerating a lot of the things that were already happening. So it’s not necessarily about starting completely new things. A great example is exactly what we’re doing right here talking by video. This is something that was in motion before, but is now on steroids. And there are so many examples of that across the industrial spectrum, Bradley said there’s many industries, Daniels that are that are very slow in adoption, I work across different verticals. And I see some of them being very slow when it comes to adapting to change, for example, financial industry takes a lot of time to do things, because they’re inherently they’re got a complex structure, the accounting world there, they have practices that go 500 years back. And so for these industries, I think it’s, it’s a really great time to look at these new trends that are shaping the world adapt to new ways of working, and use all these things, trends to create more efficiency in business. I mean, that’s what technology does, it creates efficiency, it helps you, you know, reduce whatever expense, so on and so forth. So I think it’s a, it’s a great way to create more value. And to go back to the drawing board, I’ve been telling people, hey, you’re doing if you’re doing nothing right now, then go back to the drawing board, strategize with your team every single day. And think of new ideas that can perhaps make your business different. And I see a lot of companies doing that as well. Daniel, I know we don’t have a lot of time, help us understand the top three suggestions, recommendations, advice, guidance that you would give viewers watching this. And we’ve got a diverse set of viewers watching this, what should they do in order to adapt or look into trends? Or how to implement trends into their businesses? And kind of, is there a step by step approach? Is there a process that you recommend you teach? Thanks, the the, you know, trends are extremely powerful, because they show you what customers are thinking and feeling they’re showing you about the world from a from a market pull perspective, I think I wouldn’t have a job and maybe do and a lot of people who work in marketing and sort of adjuncts to marketing, if people or business people in particular, were really good at seeing themselves from outside of themselves. That’s what marketers are great at marketers, or, in general, I think are the specialists and seeing the business world from outside of the business world from seeing it from the customer’s perspective. And that’s what the power of trends, the trends are like the secret sauce, of understanding getting inside the brain of what people are thinking and feeling and what’s motivating them to act. And so in a case like we’re in right now, it’s there’s a lot of motivators behind what’s motivating, you know, what, why people are acting, that the two most obvious ones concerns about health and concerns about the economy. And those two things are where we’re going to see the biggest changes, just like 911 changed everything. In regards to security, this thing, this crisis will change, you know, everything quote, unquote, in regard to the way we perceive our health, that will be one of the long lasting effects. So a powerful way that your watchers can understand that is by discovering what their customers are looking for, in a bigger sense, not just in their particular business, again, because trends are not siloed. by industry, their customers are looking for the same to buy or the same products and services based on the way that they’re feeling and the way that they are in the world. And as I said, what’s happening, and one way to track those is on trend watching sites. And I’ll just give a little plug for for wiki trends, which is wiki trend.org. It’s run by the avanti guidance Institute, which is the company that I’m the director of it’s a free website that’s updated every day with some of the most interesting and important trends that we’re seeing. Come across our desks every day and working with people like you and people like me who spent what, you know, we spend our lives our business lives looking at the future and what that’s going to bring to businesses. It’s an extremely powerful thing for business to understand. And, and I think it’s a benefit that, you know, it’s sort of a silver lining, if you could call it that of what we’re going through right now is that people like you and me are indemand right now, Daniel again, aftershock is Daniel has contributed to aftershock, I’m in it and we’ve got 50 other plus other people, amazing people who’ve written this book, we came together and wrote this. It’s really thick. It’s a thick volume, but every chapter is different. That’s what I love about aftershock. It’s available on Amazon, please, folks, if you’re listening or watching, buy a copy of Amazon. And also Daniel, tell us where people can find you and check your work that you’ve given us one website, the E trends.org. Tell me more if there’s other URLs that we can visit. Great, thank you, Daniel levine.com. That’s my personal website. But my business I’m the head of the avant garde Institute at avanti guide.com. And yes, you’re all welcome. And I love talking about this stuff. Give me a call and let’s chat. And thank you Daniel. So Daniel levine.com, event guide.com, Vicki trends.org. Folks, Daniel is the person to go to when you want to learn about trends, what’s shaping the world where we’re headed, what you should do what you should ignore what you should pay attention to. My friend Daniel Levine, according to aftershock really amazing, gentlemen, as well. Daniel, thank you so much for your time. I thank you so much for inviting me. And everybody listening, health and wealth and good future thinking. Absolutely. Let’s hope for the best and I know the future is definitely what we created today what we focus on today. So folks get to work, figure out your tomorrow despite the disruption that’s happening, and you will come out shining Thank you so much. Thank you. Hey, friend, this is Ian Khan. If you like what you saw on my video, then please subscribe to my YouTube channel and be inspired every single day with innovative content that keeps you fresh, updated and ready for the future. For more information. Also visit my website at Ian khan.com

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Byron Reese – Author, Speaker, Entrepreneur in conversation with Futurist Ian Khan

In this episode, i speak with globally recognized Futurist Daniel Levine, also a co-contributor to the recent book “After Shock”.

Bio (In Byron’s own words)

Hello, my name is Byron Reese. I enjoy studying technology and history, contemplating their intersection with the future, and writing and speaking about it all.

I have always loved technology. As a kid, I was always taking stuff apart to figure out how it worked. I grew convinced that I must have a knack for engineering because whenever I would put something back together, I always had a few pieces leftover. If that isn’t talent, I don’t know what is.

Like many people that are fascinated by technology, I loved science fiction. I was, and still am, a big Star Trek fan. Years ago, I read a quote by the creator of Star Trek, Gene Roddenberry. He said that in the future, “There would be no hunger, there would be no greed, and all the children will know how to read.”

This quote gnawed at me, and I wondered if it was true. Or did it just sound true because it rhymed? So I decided to try to figure it out. That’s how I became a futurist.

I got into business early in life. When I was 12, my mom asked me to paint our house number on our curb with a stencil. Our neighbor, Mr. Roland, saw me doing it and asked me to do his as well. Afterwards, he gave me $5. Five bucks! For five minutes work. In 1980! I remember hearing a distinct “ka-ching” inside my head. I immediately started going door-to-door and made a kid-sized fortune. I have been an entrepreneur ever since.

After I had some business success as an adult, I began getting invitations to give talks. Good speakers write a speech and give it over and over. I am not a good speaker. I have never given the same speech twice. I just can’t bring myself to do it… it feels like I am phoning it in. So, I would give talks about whatever I was interested in at the time. After a while, I noticed that the same themes were coming up over and over. Suddenly that collection of speeches looked a lot like a book. That’s how I became an author. My latest book is about AI and is called “The Fourth Age: Smart Robots, Conscious Computers, and the Future of Humanity.”

Today, I am requested to speak to both technical and non-technical audiences around the world. I invite you to check out my Talks on Tomorrow and visit my blog for a collection of writing including my articles on artificial intelligence and interviews with today’s AI thought leaders.

Whether I am writing or speaking, you are sure to find me exploring the intersection of technology, business, and the future. Follow me on Twitter at @byronreese

About After Shock

The world’s foremost futurists reflect on 50 years of Future Shock—and look ahead to the next 50

Contributors include:

Alan Kay
Aaron Frank
Adrienne Mayor
Alexander Mankowsky
Alexandra Ivanovitch
Alisha Bhagat
Amy Zalman
Anders Sorman-Nilsson
Andra Keay
Andrew Curry
Andy Hines
Anita Sengupta
Anne Lise Kjaer
Aris Persidis
Aubrey de Grey
Barry O’Reilly
Barry Vacker
Bill Davidow
Bill Diamond
Bryan Alexander
Byron Reese
Carlos Osorio
Carver Mead
Cat Tully
Cindy Frewen
Clem Bezold
Daniel Burrus
Daniel Levine
David Brin
David Guston
David Krakauer
David J. Staley
David Weinberger
Deb Westphal
Diane M. Francis
Donna Dupont
Eleanor “Nell” Watson
Eric Daimler
Erica Bol
Erik Qualman
Fotis Sotiropoulos
George Gilder
Grady Booch
Gray Scott
Hannes Sjoblad
Harish Natarajan
Hazel Henderson
Helen Messier
Ian Khan
Ignacio Pena
Jack Uldrich
James Canton
Jane McGonigal
Jason Jackson
Jason Schenker
Jay Gambetta
Jeff Eisenach
Jeffrey C. Bauer
Jerome Glenn
Jerry Fishenden
Joe Dispenza
Joe Tankersley
Joel Garreau
John L. Petersen
John M. Smart
John Sack
John Sanei
John Schroeter
Jonathan Venn
José Morey
Kaitlyn Sadtler
Kirk Borne
Klee Irwin
Kris Østergaard
Lisa Bodell
Maciej Kranz
Martin Guigui
Martin Rees
Maggie Greyson
Michael Tomczyk
Michel Laberge
Mick Ebeling
Moon Ribas
Naveen Jain
Neil Jacobstein
Newt Gingrich
Patricia Lustig & Gill Ringland
Paul Saffo
Paul Stimers
Po Bronson & Arvind Gupta
Ray Kurzweil
Rebecca Costa
Richard Browning
Richard Slaughter
Richard Watson
Richard Yonck
Rodrigo Nieto Gómez
Rohit Bhargava
Ross Dawson
Ruth Miller
Sanjiv Chopra & Pankaj K Vij
Sohail Inayatullah
Sridhar Mahadevan
Stan Rosen
Stephanie Mehta
Steve Waite
Tanya Accone
Terrence (Terry) Sejnowski
Teun Koetsier
Theodore Jay Gordon
Thomas Frey
Timothy Chou
Vikram Mansharamani
Wolfgang Fengler
Zoltan Istvan

Full Transcript : Hi friends this is Ian Khan and you’re listening to the Ian Khan show. And this is an aftershock special episode, which means I’m speaking with a co contributor to the recent book aftershock. I’m speaking with Byron Reese today and Byron is an Austin based author. And his most recent book is the fourth age smart robots, conscious computers and the future of humanity. Byron Reese. barn Welcome to the Ian Khan show.

I’m so excited to have you on board. Where exactly are you right now. I am in Austin, Texas. And I’m happy to be here. amazing to be here with you. Oh, thank you. I so appreciate you making time for me. You know, we’re both contributors to aftershock, which our good friend john shorter has put together thanks to him for bringing together an amazing group of people like yourselves and others that I’ve interviewed on the show so far. Byron, I am learning I’m drinking from the hose when I’m interviewing people like yourself just because of the things I’m hearing and people that are sharing. So thank you for joining me, I’m happy to be here. Let’s talk about connection. You know, in your article in your work, and I’ve seen some of your work online as well, you talk a lot about people need to change their perception of a world driven by technology, because it just has a bad rep so many times when it comes to not losing jobs, but creating more jobs, engagement. And we’re living in a post COVID world today, the world has definitely changed. What are your thoughts in a COVID world, and your ideas of technology in general. Human beings are about 100 watts of power, that’s what we have your and if you were dropped on a desert island, you would feel the limits of that. And a long time ago, we learned a trick, and that is technology. And we use technology to multiply what we’re able to do. You can measure it in a number of ways. One way is you know, energy consumption. Now the average person in the West uses 10,000 watts of power few 100 extra yourself throughout society because of this trick we learned. And all it does, it’s a very simple thing all technology does is any increases human productivity. And that is always good for everyone. And if you challenge that, if you disagree with that, consider the alternative where you pass the law that said everybody has to work with one arm tied behind their back, what would happen? Well, you would create 100 jobs, because you need twice as many people to do anything. But the jobs wouldn’t pay very well, because productivity went down. And so it’s always good to increase human productivity. That’s the story of why we live so much better lives and even our great grandparents lives. Absolutely. Let’s break some misconceptions here. I’ve worked with a lot of industries, myself, you’re out there, you’re doing amazing work of it, what you do, you often hit a roadblock, when you tell people hey, here’s five different things, five different new technologies are ways to create efficiency in your organization, whether it’s an accounting firm, a manufacturing company, a doctor’s clinic, and the first thing they think is Oh my God, is my job going to be done Am I going to be done and probably the first few thoughts that go to their head, or like, I’m going to lose my income, I’m gonna lose my house, I’m gonna lose my kids in car and my wife’s gonna leave me, my kids and all that whole barrage of negative thoughts. How can we really convince people that technology is actually good for us? I mean, the proof is all around us. How do we get to to these people? Well, I would say it this way, I’ve spent a lot of time trying to figure out the half life of a job. And I think it’s 50 years or put another way, I think, every 50 years, we lose half of all the jobs. It’s been going on for about 250 years. And what’s interesting in this country, with the exception of today, and the Great Depression, unemployment, it’s never been over 10%. We know it’s not over 10% now because of technology, nor in the depression. So you think about all these technological changes that came along, and you can’t see them in a graph of unemployment, you replaced all animal power with steam and 22 years can’t see it that an unemployment, you invented a kind of artificial intelligence known as the assembly line, you can’t see it. Here’s the kind of conceptual thing that I think maybe helps people a little bit. They say to me, Look, there’s a range of jobs whose jobs at the top that are high paid high skilled jobs, and their jobs. Were at the bottom that are low skilled, low pay, like order taker, fast food. And they say, look, technology’s great at creating these new jobs at the top like a geneticist, but it destroys the jobs and the bottom line, order takers, fast food. And then here’s what people say. And I think this is what freaks everybody out. They say, you really think that person who was the order taker at the fast food place can learn to be a geneticist? Can the people who are losing their jobs, learn to code or whatever? And the answer is no, that isn’t how it works. Ever. What happens is a college biology professor becomes a geneticist and then a high school biology teacher goes into the college job, then a substitute teacher gets hired on full time at the high school all the way down the line. The question isn’t, Can people at the bottom do the new jobs that are created? The question is Can everybody on this planet do a job a little harder than the job they have today? So anybody listening, can you do a job just a little harder. There. The job you have today, if so, that’s 250 years of economic history in this country for 250 years, we technology creates jobs at the top, it destroys jobs at the bottom, and everybody shifts up a notch. And that’s why we have 50% of the jobs lost every half century, but rising wages, and it’s for that reason, there is not a person listening, I would wager, who is absolutely out there mental and physical capacity. And I have found that most people want to do more if they make a little more money. And that’s what the future looks like you use technology to multiply what you’re able to do you increase your productivity, and you’re paid more for it. Absolutely. also believe that and I completely agree with you, I think majority of people in the world undermine their capability of creating some change, sometimes maybe they don’t connect with, you know, when people come out and say, Hey, I’m going to change the world. And there’s all the naysayers who say, yeah, we’ve heard that before they’re going to fail. But you know, what there’s, there’s there’s a middle ground here, right between the super motivational people to the super D motivated people. There’s people who are creating change right now, by taking action, creating plans, creating strategies executing on their tasks, and there has to be a systematic process of notching up. There’s got to be systematic process. And I think there’s a disconnect there, where people don’t understand that process. And they give up, they just, they just give up on themselves, which is not great. No, I think to just add to that, I think the number one jobs skill in the future is the ability to teach yourself new things. And the good news is, everybody can do it. If I went I’m 52 years old, if I went back to high school, I went to school in the 80s. And I could there’s only one class I could have taken back then that would be useful to me today. And that was piping? And who would have guessed. And so it’s like everything, you know, for the most part you didn’t learn at school, you taught yourself or somebody taught you and so your capacity to learn more, and to do what you’re saying have an impact is without question and everybody has that’s what makes humans different than other creatures. Absolutely. Now, it’s been so interesting doing this book aftershock, because john reached out to I think all of us and said, Hey, write about future shots. This book was written 50 years ago by Alvin Toffler 50 years ago, it’s so far back. And then you’ve got to brush your old copy of Future Shock and say, Okay, let’s see what’s in. Let me have a read. And there you find Alvin Toffler writes about things, 50 years forward, amazing things, very accurate things in the state of the world. Like he got it right, so many different times in so many different things. What were your initial thoughts? When whenever you read that book, or looking at Toffler and his work, felt somewhat inadequate? You know, it’s, I wasn’t even sure I was going to contribute, because it’s such a guest company. But I’ll come right back and answer that very directly. But if you go back just 25 years, that’s when the mosaic browser came out. The first, you know, the consumer web. And if you went back 25 years ago, half that time, half of 50. And you ask a very smart technical person, hey, what’s this browser thing going to do to the world? They would say two jobs, they would say, look, it’s gonna probably get rid of all the stockbrokers get rid of all the travel agents get rid of all the Yellow Pages, all the newspapers are gonna have trouble. And they would have been right about everything. But what nobody would have gotten was everything that would create it, Uber, Etsy, Airbnb, Google, Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, all of that. And that’s where the fear comes from is you can always see what it’s going to destroy. But none of us have imagination to see what’s going to create and Toffler did, and that’s, to me, what’s different, we all get nervous about what technology is going to take away or change that we don’t like on namas. None of us can look at everybody could in 1995 see that there would be at CDA and all that it would have been started in 1996. But they weren’t, you know, it took a decade or more before these really kind of core companies even came into being because it just takes a while to kind of get with the flow of the technologies. Oh, I could sell what’s in my attic with this thing or what have you. So I think that’s what’s so impressive about Toffler is, is he could I mean, nobody’s perfect, but he could see both sides of the equation. Well, yeah, I can have a lot of faith that the other side of the equation is there, but I don’t purport to see it. Yeah. You know, I think, you know, my kids are gonna be short Wranglers. And you know, all these made up words I’m just making up because I don’t know what they are. But they’re gonna be something is different. But it’ll come out to be but I don’t know what it is. And thank you so much for that. They say that we are living in an era of exponential growth. And there’s all bars, charts, data that exponential growth in the world in technology is happening Wait, Moore’s law has been broken by 2025 or 2045 will be a new road race and we’ll have implants. How much of that do you subscribe, like, what’s your vision of where we will be realistically in the next 25 years? Here’s the next 25 years. Well, I’m, I’m not a singularity. And I don’t believe that our computing that once computers become, you know, smarter than us, then two years later, they’ll be twice as smart. And then four times, and then eventually they won’t even know what we are. I think that viewpoint is based on a, I used to host this podcast on AI, that’s my shtick. And I had 120 guests, and I would ask them all the same question. And 95% of them answered this question. Yes. And then I give lots of speeches. And I ask audiences the same question and only 15% of audiences say yes, and the question is, are people machines? Are you a machine? And people in AI are, you know, normally say, Well, what else would we be? And at some point, if we’re nothing but machines, we’re gonna build a mechanical person. And then two years later, that will be twice as good and, and they’re entirely right. If we aren’t machines, for whatever reason, scientific, spiritual, whatever you want to pick biological quantum, then there is no machine that will ever do what people do. And therefore I don’t think that those kinds of nightmare scenarios are even possible, until I, unlike my 95% of my guess, I don’t believe we’re machines, or it hasn’t been proven to me that we’re machines, we have brains, we don’t understand that give rise to minds, we don’t understand. And we have consciousness, which means we don’t, a computer can measure temperature, but you can feel warm. And that difference is often called the last scientific question. We don’t even know how to pose scientifically. And so I’m convinced computers, and I think they need all three of that I think they need a brain in mind, and first person experience. And I’m convinced I don’t have that much faith, they do that, that we’re going to build that. So to me, if I believe as I do, increase productivity is always good for people, all this technology is just going to increase our productivity. I mean, I wrote a book called infinite progress because I believe that you know, our destiny I look in the night sky sure looks like there’s a lot of room out there for us to expand into doesn’t feel crowded at all. And I imagine a day you know, is a billion people on a billion different planets, each with a Mary Curie and each with a Leonardo and each with a JK Rowling and each with a Lynn manual, Miranda, you know, all the rest. And that’s the world I believe in not, oh, we’re just machines, we’re going to build a better version of ourselves, and it’s going to rule over us and i don’t i don’t believe it. Thank you. Now in 2020, we’ve seen something unprecedented, which is COVID-19 never saw it. Never were expecting it. Like everybody was going about their business. What can you say? It’s unprecedented? But do you really mean that? It’s never I mean, that that is probably the most common thing in human history, isn’t it? famines? I mean, pandemics are more common than wars. But go ahead. My point was that I don’t think an average person was expecting to undergo what we went in 2019, let’s say the lockdowns and people are getting sick, and many people succumb to this pandemic. So there’s there was a lot of unknowns that hit an average common person. What should we expect from a world should we always expect in a world that’s full of technology? In a world where human relationships are not what they used to be 20 3050 years ago? And also looking into the future a few years? What should our expectations be from the world that we should always expect change, we should always expect and be ready for events like this. And I want you to hear it from you as an as a leader, because you inspire a lot of people, how do you go about understanding what the world needs you? There was a time they think genetically based on the genetic diversity of any to humans, they think there was a time 75,000 years ago that we were down to 800 mating pairs of humans that was it $800 million? I mean, we were an endangered species. And somehow we who would have bet on us then by the way, who would have said, Oh, no, that those are those are the ones that are gonna take over and, and our history since then, has been one of continued, you know, advancement. We even created human rights and trial by jury and democracy and individual liberty and all the rest. And we also and we did it through technology, and through technology, we learned to control our environment better. And that’s really what we’re trying to do even now. We’re inherently a fearful species. We come by that honestly. Someone said once that back in the day, it made more sense for us to see a rock think it was a bear. Oh, it’s a bear run away and run away then to see this bear that it’s probably just the rock and get eaten. And so we’re these kind of tentative frightened creatures. So that’s our history. And we have that we have a predisposition to fear and all kinds of things play on it. A lot of I think a lot of people want people to be afraid and you know, profit by your fear and all that The rest. But if you say that you still only be 100 pairs of us, we get nothing. And look at all we did. And along the way, by the way, we created art, and music. And we we learn to care for the weak among us. And I mean, we’re doing pretty well. And so I would encourage people not to understand that, you know, in our heart, we’re still like, it could be a bear. But know that and to say we, every day have more mastery of our world. And tomorrow, we will have even more. And finally, we’re fundamentally good, because if we weren’t, we never would have made it this far. The only way we got to hear from way back then, is because we learned altruism, and we learned to work together. And there are all kinds of people who are bad in the world. I’m not denying that. But the way we got here is because more people want to build and destroy and more people want to work together than destroy. And so in our hearts, we’re we’re good. I believe in us like, we’ve got this barn. Thank you. I know we don’t have a lot of time with you. I do appreciate you jumping on board for a quick podcast episode. As a final question. What advice would you give all our listeners and viewers and people out there in the world who are trying to make a good living trying to do the right thing? What should they do in three steps? maybe one or two or three steps? What’s your advice to the world? How do they go about their life? What should they expect from the future? I don’t like to tell people what they should do. But I can say what I do. And you were talking earlier about how technology creates new jobs at the top and destroys one at the ones at the bottom and everybody shifts up a notch. I tried to apply that to my life. I tried to say what aspects of my life can technology create great new opportunities and great new experiences? Where am I an order taker at a fast food place? Like I do a ton of things like that in my day to day life? Where can I use technology to destroy those jobs those parts of my life I can I use it to destroy so I don’t have to do them. And that’s just like philosophically how I look at my day. I want to use technology to either automate mundane things, I don’t have to do them or create new opportunities. For me, technology really is this thing. It’s it’s not magic, but it behaves like magic. It multiplies what you’re able to do. It makes you you know more than you were before. It comes with its pitfalls, but it’s very powerful when when applied correctly. Incredible. Byron Hey, thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Folks. aftershock is one of the books where Byron has gone muted. Byron tell us where people can find you get a copy of your book, learn more about your incredible work. Oh, thank you. I’m an easiest person in the world to find. I’m Byron Reese on everything. I’m Byron Reese on twitter.com. Just type that in your search engine of choice and you will have many options. Alrighty. Well, Byron, thank you for sharing your time with us. Really appreciate it and hope to see you very soon in the future and keep inspiring people. Thank you so much. Thanks for having me. Hey, friend, this is Ian Khan. If you like what you saw on my video, then please subscribe to my YouTube channel and be inspired every single day with innovative content that keeps you fresh, updated and ready for the future. For more information. Also visit my website at Ian khan.com

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Patricia Lustig , CEO of LASA Insights, Bestselling Author in conversation with Futurist Ian Khan

In this episode, I speak with Patricia Lustig, a globally recognised Futurist and CEO of LASA Insights. She is also a co-contributor to the recent book “After Shock”.

Bio

Patricia Lustig is the Chief Executive of LASA Insight Ltd. Specialist in Strategy and Foresight, Change Design and Community Engagement, she has over 30 years of experience in the corporate, not-for-profit and public sectors from Board Level to the factory floor. She has worked in Europe, Asia and the US. She uses strength-based approaches to change.

She has published two books, Beyond Crisis: achieving renewal in a turbulent world, John Wiley & Sons, 2010 and Here Be Dragons: navigating an uncertain world, The Choir Press 2012. Her latest book Strategic Foresight: learning from the future was published in July 2015 by Triarchy Press.

Learn more about Patricia at https://www.lasa-insight.com/​

About After Shock

The world’s foremost futurists reflect on 50 years of Future Shock—and look ahead to the next 50

Contributors include:

Alan Kay
Aaron Frank
Adrienne Mayor
Alexander Mankowsky
Alexandra Ivanovitch
Alisha Bhagat
Amy Zalman
Anders Sorman-Nilsson
Andra Keay
Andrew Curry
Andy Hines
Anita Sengupta
Anne Lise Kjaer
Aris Persidis
Aubrey de Grey
Barry O’Reilly
Barry Vacker
Bill Davidow
Bill Diamond
Bryan Alexander
Byron Reese
Carlos Osorio
Carver Mead
Cat Tully
Cindy Frewen
Clem Bezold
Daniel Burrus
Daniel Levine
David Brin
David Guston
David Krakauer
David J. Staley
David Weinberger
Deb Westphal
Diane M. Francis
Donna Dupont
Eleanor “Nell” Watson
Eric Daimler
Erica Bol
Erik Qualman
Fotis Sotiropoulos
George Gilder
Grady Booch
Gray Scott
Hannes Sjoblad
Harish Natarajan
Hazel Henderson
Helen Messier
Ian Khan
Ignacio Pena
Jack Uldrich
James Canton
Jane McGonigal
Jason Jackson
Jason Schenker
Jay Gambetta
Jeff Eisenach
Jeffrey C. Bauer
Jerome Glenn
Jerry Fishenden
Joe Dispenza
Joe Tankersley
Joel Garreau
John L. Petersen
John M. Smart
John Sack
John Sanei
John Schroeter
Jonathan Venn
José Morey
Kaitlyn Sadtler
Kirk Borne
Klee Irwin
Kris Østergaard
Lisa Bodell
Maciej Kranz
Martin Guigui
Martin Rees
Maggie Greyson
Michael Tomczyk
Michel Laberge
Mick Ebeling
Moon Ribas
Naveen Jain
Neil Jacobstein
Newt Gingrich
Patricia Lustig & Gill Ringland
Paul Saffo
Paul Stimers
Po Bronson & Arvind Gupta
Ray Kurzweil
Rebecca Costa
Richard Browning
Richard Slaughter
Richard Watson
Richard Yonck
Rodrigo Nieto Gómez
Rohit Bhargava
Ross Dawson
Ruth Miller
Sanjiv Chopra & Pankaj K Vij
Sohail Inayatullah
Sridhar Mahadevan
Stan Rosen
Stephanie Mehta
Steve Waite
Tanya Accone
Terrence (Terry) Sejnowski
Teun Koetsier
Theodore Jay Gordon
Thomas Frey
Timothy Chou
Vikram Mansharamani
Wolfgang Fengler
Zoltan Istvan

Publication Details
ISBN Print: 978-0-9997364-4-9
ISBN eBook: 978-0-9997364-5-6

Hi friends this is Ian Khan and you’re listening to the Ian Khan show. In this episode we’re going to have a conversation with a co contributor to the book aftershock. My guest today is Patricia Lustig, who leads lassa. Inside limited and a strategic foresight company, Patricia uses foresight, horizon scanning and futures tools to help organizations develop insights into emerging trends, develop a successful strategy and implement that change. He’s also author and co author of four books and numerous articles over Patricia Lustig.

Welcome to the Ian Khan show. I’m so thrilled to have you. How are you today? Very good. Excellent. So we are talking because we’re both contributors to aftershock book put together by a good friend, john shorter tons and tons of really nice articles that lightning that are invigorating. I’ve read what you and Jill have written in aftershock. And I’m we’re going to talk about that today. In this episode, tell me a little bit about what you do, Patricia? Well, I’m what’s called a futurist. So many of the people in this book are and the thing I’m really about is helping people to think more long term, because individuals and businesses and organizations tend to think very much in the short term and not enough long term, and it will come and bite them in the bum as it is doing right at this very moment. It’s very interesting as people are realizing it. Absolutely. And one of the things that really stood out for me when I as I read your piece is our ability to cope up with change how we’re coping up with change, and we’re going to talk about that a little bit. You also have a co contributor, Gil ringland, who couldn’t join us today. And Jill has really amazing career. Both of you are contributors to multiple publications and multiple books. How did this collaboration come about? We both worked for ICL, and we started by writing an article together about scenario planning. And we have been writing partners and I’ve written three books and we’re on our fourth together in the last 20 years. That’s incredible. And it’s hard writing me someone else’s very hard. But when you get used to it, we write very well together we have what is called robust discussions, a lot of argument, and we get much better stuff out because we’ve got two of us working on it that way. Yeah, absolutely. Let’s talk about some of the things that you’ve written. Let’s talk about Toffler. And if that was an influence for you, or what your thoughts were about future shock, when you first read it, what do you think about Future Shock? 50 years after it has been written? You still feel some of the things and were bang on? Some of them were not how do you think we’re living today? As you know, written in Future Shock so many years ago? Yeah, I think, well, it really excited me when I read it. So I must have known I was going to become a futurist. But I think the thing for us is the thing that we wrote about, which was that he just made an assumption, which was easy to make, in the time that it was written that people were not going to be able to cope with the amount of change that was coming. I don’t think he underestimated the amount of change. But I don’t I do think that they underestimated together because we mustn’t forget, he wrote it with a writing partner as well, with Heidi, we mustn’t forget the time he was in, and that we look back. And we always think that less change has happened and really has happened. And we think looking forward that less change will happen, then will really happen. And human beings can cope, and most of us do. But as we said in the chapter, it is more difficult for older people, the older you get than it is for younger people. And so why is that? Is it because we’re holding on to our mindset? Or is it because we have access to some new things. And you’ve written a lot in the article about some of the newer things that are happening in the world, some of the revolution, some of the social things, some of the crowd sourced things that are happening? Let’s talk about that. You talk about Greta Greta Thornburg, you talk about the earthquake in Nepal, help us understand how people have coped with change, or maybe lived in a different way right now than they were in the past. And those examples, what happened was they embraced the change better, I think, or more easily than some older people. I mean, I can I’m two generations before them. You know, we were talking about people born after 1980. So my kids and I don’t automatically think about using social media in the way that these kids who have had it for most of their adult lives, do it. It isn’t that I can’t use it or that I don’t eventually think of using it. But what is the case is that I don’t think of it First off, it just it was a no brainer, as you would say that they would use this and that they would use it in this way. And, you know, in particular, I I did know quite a bit about the Yellow House because I was involved. They just, they just did it without seeing that this was different or new. Whereas for me, somebody who’s older, it is different than you and I have to think about it, I have to struggle to think about it. It’s not as automatic. And for them, they grew up with it. And I think we probably had that with every generation going forward. It’s just the change happens more quickly, and in shorter cycles now than it used to. I hear you on that. And I think there’s definitely that aspect of, and I don’t know, if it’s not just technology, that people are not technology savvy, it’s not that anymore, because we all are using technology, computers, they’re just part of life. I think maybe the reason could be that where it you know, it’s not embedded into us, like, I have a four year old son, and I’ll tell you a personal story. And his entertainment when we allow it is maybe spending time on the iPad playing a game or you know, doing some work. So he’s already working with technology from from such a young agent, all kids today are, at our time when I was growing up, we didn’t have an iPad, we had those small Nintendo games with a black and white screen, or we’re coming up. And so I think it’s generally what are we exposed to in our environment? Now you talk a lot about, you know, how people are, can do more in with what they have and reach more people and create more change of RV becoming bigger value creators today, because we have access to all of these things. That’s a typical one. Yes. And there’s another piece to it because we are capable of creating more because of it. And you can say, is it a big step or not, you can look at the steps that happened before they were big, too. I mean, just look at the step that happened, the real watershed when the printing press was invented. And the thing that’s different now is that those sort of watersheds happen much more frequently. And it is what your story about your son shows is that it is what we are used to. So what we are used to is front of mind. And with me who didn’t I mean, the computers when I was growing up, didn’t even have transistors, they had those lights, you know, like old television sets did those tubes. That’s how it was. So we didn’t see any of those. So for us, although I worked in it, it wasn’t given as it is for a child now working with an iPad. So you have to go through to a different depths in your brain, I suppose to use it. It’s not the first thing that comes up. It isn’t. I won’t say that it’s not normal, because it is normal, but it’s not front and center like it is with our kids and grandkids. Now, when you’re a futurist, you have a foresight as an area where you work help us understand what can an average person who in order to really look into the future, and I’ve spoken with so many amazing people over the last couple of months, all of whom have been contributors to to aftershock. I’m drinking from the firehose, I’d love to know your perspective on, you know, how do you go about helping people understand the process of proactivity, creating the future or understanding the future or foresight, help us understand? Well, in very, very simple terms, you need to understand that there isn’t a future there is most people think of the future as a continuation of the past. And that’s not real. That never happens. So the best thing you can do is think about different uncertainties that you face. And if this were to happen, and uncertainties use a continuum from, you know, say inclusive government to exclusive government and say, Well, if it was inclusive, what would that mean for me? And if it was XClusive, what would that mean for me? What would be different so that you aren’t just making a plan for the future? A because that’s the one you think, you know, the continuation business as usual, you are saying, Okay, well, we could have different futures, there’s a range of them, what would I need to do to be successful in each one of them? And how would I know that one of them was happening, and you can read science fiction, although most of it seems to be dystopian and negative? Because that sells, you know, you’ve got Star Trek? That’s, that’s a very positive future. And you can look at those and say, that’s an example of the future. What would I need to do to be successful and enjoy living in that future? An individual doesn’t necessarily have the time to go into all the research and look at all the trends and say, Okay, here’s a future that’s plausible and probable, but you can by watching science fiction on television, by reading books, and by actually giving it a bit of thought, think of some different ones, and figure out how that would be thing. So here’s an example. And I love what you just said. Here’s an example if we watch a lot of let’s say, movies, or Hollywood, there’s so many movies that are sci fi, the you know, going from 10 2050 years to scenarios that that are just mind blowing, right? movies with time travel, movies, with so many different things that it’s impossible to under Right now now today as of right now, we’re living in the era of COVID-19, where we’re battling something that has come out of nowhere. Humanity is not ready for it. We haven’t been enhanced. So many people have died and they’re struggling with with COVID-19. Hopefully, it’s going to go away soon. How do you deal with things that just hit you like a rock, you’re you’re planning your future, you come up with your scenarios? How do you deal with, you know, so called Black Swan events? If this is a black swan event, and people are arguing that as well? How do you deal with events that come out of nowhere as a disrupter? Well, I would, what I what I do. And what I teach is that you always play with a wildcard event, a black swan, is something that has that exists somewhere. And this is a black swan, but I’m not so sure that it is because we knew. And I’ve never written a scenario where we didn’t say there will be a pandemic, we just don’t know the year it is something we know. And it’s been ignored at people’s pedal. But what we do is we pick, we put together a crazy, wild card, and we play with, what would we design for that? Not because it’s going to happen, their high impact but low probability. But because it’s sort of exercises your foresight, brain, you force that muscle, just to try to see what would happen if you got hit by something totally unexpected. What would you do? And how would you make that work? And where would there be advantage? And what would you need to mitigate and adapt to, if you’ve done that once, you might, it might be quicker off the mark for you when it really happens. So foresight is not just about predicting the future, it’s not just about coming up with it’s not ever about predicting the future, because you can’t. So it’s really about helping understand where you could go, let’s talk about business leadership, you know, business leaders that want to understand where their organization will go in the next two 510 1520 years, they can sit down and do the process of foresight, figure out scenarios that can arise right and go through this process with people such as yourself. And many of the amazing exploits that are in future shock to kind of lay out that here is here are four things that can happen tomorrow, because of the decisions we take or not take because of market disruption because of an event a black swan event that we never knew would come or an event that we know, potentially would come in. And so it’s a way to plan your response to what happens in the future. Two things that can happen. And then you you go with one, do you then go with one of the scenarios? Or what do you do? Well, it’s two things, you by looking at the different scenarios, you can figure out where you can do something and where you come. So where do you have influence? How can you you know, we all have a preferable future that we’d like how could we make that happen, because there’s some things you can do something about. And there’s other things you can’t you don’t none of the futures when you make a set of futures, however many it is none of them will come true, all but a piece from this one will come true and a piece from back from will come true, right? And you learn you you talk to how you would know which future you are at. And then you identify Oh, it’s this part of that future. And when that happens, we needed to that’s our plan for this part. And then another part of the future another future comes you have a plan for that. So it’s not going to be I have scenario a and I’ve got my plan for scenario a, you’ve got your plan for the parts of scenario a and if you recognize one of them happening, you do that part of the plan. Does that make sense? Yes, absolutely. It does make sense. What I’m trying to do is I’m trying to help our viewers and listeners understand what foresight is that the process of foresight is so that they can think about it and get used to it. Now, are there some specific tools that we use? I know a lot of people generally will take a marker user whiteboard, post it notes, there’s so many, you know, very low tech ways of doing it. And I think those are the ways that that are really nice, because you’re very flexible. Are there any tools that you specifically use or not? Well, it rather depends on the client and the need what the need is, but one that we use a huge amount of time is a tool called three horizons, which looks at Where are we now? And what are the trends we see now? Where do we see? That’s the first horizon that’s kind of managerial, and then we’re visionary. We look 30 to 40 to 50 years out, what do we see happening there? That’s the horizon three. And then we look at what’s the bridge between so where’s an assumption that we’re making today? That is challenged by one of the assumptions from far out, that’s just not a great big piece of butcher paper with, you know, stickies, little posit notes, and we developed a game for a game board for doing scenarios. The two by two matrix, a two by two matrix is something we can use. There are very many tools. I’ve written a book about this, that people can use and they depend on who the group is what they want to do. How much They’ve got, you know, there’s just a whole list of them for tools, I think you could go to the Association of Professional teachers, it’s called ap f.org. And I’m a board member. So I have to hold my hand up and say that and there are lots of things in the open domain on that, you know, you should be able to find some tools there are lots of people use different tools. I mean, there are tools that can help you do horizon scanning, that can mind for data, there are tools that can use that use an AI to take the data and do something with it. So there’s a huge amount of things you can you can look for. And it really depends on what the outcome is its desired. And the one thing I would say is that in an organization, certainly, when you’re doing foresight, it needs to be participatory, it means that a lot of people need to be part of it. So that you have lots of people on the lookout, as well as helping you with the plans, of course, want to read something from the book from your chapter, in the book, where it says, The combination of powerful technologies, and prosperous economies and genders choice that’s empowered, the luxury of choice includes the way we build our networks, to energize our respective communities in order to get things done. And this is what I wanted to ask is, and you mentioned it as well, is the power of community is the power of consensus is the power of getting other people involved. So futurism or foresight cannot just be done with just one person, you’ve got to engage other people and make them part of the process. And that also helps you with your creativity and innovation around it not just in thinking about different potential futures, but also in how could we create advantage out of this? How can we navigate it, navigate our way from here to there to that future, particularly if you have a specific thing you want to happen? A preferred future, or preferred way for it to go to you need? You can’t do it on your own? There isn’t anybody who can make a future happen by themselves? Good. You mentioned that you mentioned your books. Tell us about your books up at Fisher, I’d love to learn more. I’ve written one that’s won some awards. And this is for people who are not futurist. It’s called strategic foresight, learning from the future. And it explains how you get to think in the way that teachers think. And is this book available online within PBS on Amazon? Okay, it’s on Amazon. Okay. Yeah. So what it does, I’ve taken so explain them the way you think and how you move your mind out of our normal mindset into being more open and thinking much longer term. And identifying because we all have different envelopes, is what I’ll say for what we think about and how to expand the envelope. And then it gives examples of tools that you can use. So the three horizons is one of them. And the two by two matrix is another. But there are lots of different tools. And it’s not all the tools. It’s just here’s a project, and there’s a case study in it. And here’s the tools you can use as you move through the project from start, where you’re doing your research and your horizon scanning, to finish helping implement the changes that need to be implemented. I love it. I’m going to post a link to your book in the description of this video. So if people want to buy it, you can go to the Amazon link and buy it. I haven’t read it yet, but I’d really recommend all viewers and listeners to check it out. It’s always valuable to gain this knowledge and information. We also have aftershock I believe aftershock is also available on Amazon and it’s available wherever you are. And I’m highly recommending everybody to buy a copy and start reading end to end chapter one to the last chapter. Producer. I know we’re short on time, but I’d love to speak with you for a longer time. We know you have other things to do. Tell us where people can find you look up your work, look up Jill’s work and hopefully get in touch with you. The best way to get in touch with the two of us is through the website, www. Global mega trends calm. But I’m also reachable through www dot lazur l a s a dash insight calm. Okay, so two websites global Mega trends.com and Lhasa insights.com. And I’ll know as insight one plus insight.com. I’ll post links to those two sites in the description of this video. Any last thoughts on where we’re headed in the next five to 10 years generally, as we come out of this shock that COVID-19 has created on the world it’s definitely shocked us What do you anticipate in the next five to 10 years? Well, for sure it will not be the same. This has been a watershed moment and a watershed moment is when what happened before and what happens now is different. There’s one moment and everything changes. What’s going to be interesting is to think about what will stay the same and what will change. So we think travel will change we think so many people are living at home or living at home with working from home now. And you know, they may not want to go back to work. And we may find that this is a better way to do it. And what do people do already, the investment funds that work in the area of real estate, at least in the UK have stopped trading for now until they can figure out what’s happening. I think that’s going to be a shake up. Because I think office space is going to be it you know, and especially in big city centers, like London is going to diminish a great deal. And travel is going to change. You know, I mean, look, I don’t know where you’re based us. I’m in Toronto, Toronto, Canada, Toronto, sorry, I Oh, no, see me. So Toronto, so you’re not that far in time away. But we can have this discussion. And, you know, 20 years ago, that would have been quite difficult. It was possible, but it would have been very difficult and very expensive. It changes the way we work, the way we work and what we work on is going to change. I know a lot of people are really frightened. And of course, it’s frightening that people you know, are going to die. I can’t tell you what that’s like, and you have kids, and I have children and grandchildren. And it scares me silly. But I do think that what’s going to come is going to be very interesting and can actually be something quite good if we make it that way. Thank you, Patricia. I really like how you ended it tomorrow. Well, we know it will be different, but let’s hope it’s good. It’s best for us or friends or families and humanity in general. Keep inspiring people and keep helping us understand where we’re headed. Thank you so much for your time. I really do appreciate it and wish you all the best. Okay, thank you. Hey, friend, this is Ian Khan. If you like what you saw on my video, then please subscribe to my YouTube channel and be inspired every single day with innovative content that keeps you fresh, updated and ready for the future. For more information. Also visit my website at Ian khan.com

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Jeff Bauer, Healthcare Futurist, in conversation with Futurist Ian Khan

In this episode, i speak with globally recognized Futurist Jeff Bauer, also a co-contributor to the recent book “After Shock”.

Bio

Jeff Bauer has built a distinguished career by applying principles of creativity to health care and art. Recipient of many national awards, he is widely recognized as a teacher, researcher, writer, and speaker on ways to improve the medical marketplace.

He is now focused on speaking about strategies for real health reform and producing conceptual paintings that transform purposeful phrases into colorful kaleidoscopic images—making the verbal visual. The common denominator of his provocative work in both areas is words.

Learn more about Jeff at https://jeffbauerwords.com/​

About After Shock

The world’s foremost futurists reflect on 50 years of Future Shock—and look ahead to the next 50

Contributors include:

Alan Kay
Aaron Frank
Adrienne Mayor
Alexander Mankowsky
Alexandra Ivanovitch
Alisha Bhagat
Amy Zalman
Anders Sorman-Nilsson
Andra Keay
Andrew Curry
Andy Hines
Anita Sengupta
Anne Lise Kjaer
Aris Persidis
Aubrey de Grey
Barry O’Reilly
Barry Vacker
Bill Davidow
Bill Diamond
Bryan Alexander
Byron Reese
Carlos Osorio
Carver Mead
Cat Tully
Cindy Frewen
Clem Bezold
Daniel Burrus
Daniel Levine
David Brin
David Guston
David Krakauer
David J. Staley
David Weinberger
Deb Westphal
Diane M. Francis
Donna Dupont
Eleanor “Nell” Watson
Eric Daimler
Erica Bol
Erik Qualman
Fotis Sotiropoulos
George Gilder
Grady Booch
Gray Scott
Hannes Sjoblad
Harish Natarajan
Hazel Henderson
Helen Messier
Ian Khan
Ignacio Pena
Jack Uldrich
James Canton
Jane McGonigal
Jason Jackson
Jason Schenker
Jay Gambetta
Jeff Eisenach
Jeffrey C. Bauer
Jerome Glenn
Jerry Fishenden
Joe Dispenza
Joe Tankersley
Joel Garreau
John L. Petersen
John M. Smart
John Sack
John Sanei
John Schroeter
Jonathan Venn
José Morey
Kaitlyn Sadtler
Kirk Borne
Klee Irwin
Kris Østergaard
Lisa Bodell
Maciej Kranz
Martin Guigui
Martin Rees
Maggie Greyson
Michael Tomczyk
Michel Laberge
Mick Ebeling
Moon Ribas
Naveen Jain
Neil Jacobstein
Newt Gingrich
Patricia Lustig & Gill Ringland
Paul Saffo
Paul Stimers
Po Bronson & Arvind Gupta
Ray Kurzweil
Rebecca Costa
Richard Browning
Richard Slaughter
Richard Watson
Richard Yonck
Rodrigo Nieto Gómez
Rohit Bhargava
Ross Dawson
Ruth Miller
Sanjiv Chopra & Pankaj K Vij
Sohail Inayatullah
Sridhar Mahadevan
Stan Rosen
Stephanie Mehta
Steve Waite
Tanya Accone
Terrence (Terry) Sejnowski
Teun Koetsier
Theodore Jay Gordon
Thomas Frey
Timothy Chou
Vikram Mansharamani
Wolfgang Fengler
Zoltan Istvan

Full Transcript : Hi friends this is Ian Khan and you’re listening to the Ian Khan show today is a special aftershock episode, which means I’m speaking with a co contributor to the recent book aftershot. Today I’m speaking with Jeff Bower PhD, who’s an internationally recognized health futurist and medical economist. He’s the author of nearly 300 publications on the medical marketplace. Dr. Bauer is a frequent keynote speaker all across the world, and he’s really well known around the world. Dr. Barr was a Ford Foundation, independent scholar, Fulbright scholar and Kellogg Foundation national fellow, and he’s based out of the US Let’s speak with Jeff. Welcome to the Ian Khan show. This is your host Ian Khan. And today I have an aftershock special episode with me is renowned futurist and a legend Jeff bower. Now, Jeff Bauer is a PhD, he’s a healthcare futurist. He’s been telling us about the future for almost five decades plus, so I’ve been looking forward to this conversation for many, many weeks. Jeff, welcome to the show.

How are you? I am fine in spite of the bigger picture circumstances and delighted to be here. It’s future view and my crystal ball is a delight. But being able to discuss it is and I really appreciate you pulling me into your community have a chance to look ahead. So thank you, first of all, Jeff for being part of Aftershock. This is the glue that binds us together and I’m so grateful to john Schroeder for going out there reaching out to all these amazing people putting them all together and talking about Toffler, someone, Alvin Toffler wrote Future Shock 50 years ago. And for those of my viewers and our audiences are listening on the podcast as well. You’ve been telling us over 50 years what’s going to happen and you’ve been in industry and what you’ve been in you were there at tougher his time. In fact, Toffler wrote the book after you joined the industry, isn’t that right? Yes, that is correct. And not only that, at the time, I joined the industry and started doing graduate studies in the economics of health care. My mentor was a close friend of Alvin Toffler is a very, very well known economist and peace activist named Kenneth boulding. So I had a bit of an inside scoop, you go through all of Future Shock as I did, to write my chapter, which is a delight. In retrospect, I saw many references to Kenneth moldings work. And I remember Kenneth with whom I spent a lot of time when I was in graduate school, talking about his association with Dennis and his wife. So yeah, I was there. But not only is the casual observer felt that that was a fly on the wall and able to figure out because the the mindset, Jeff, you’ve been an influence and a contributor to industry for five decades, and the amount of work you’ve put out there to your thought leadership through your initiative is mind boggling. Today, I think we just want to scratch the surface, because it’s going to take us a lot of time otherwise, starting right from aftershot. your essay with an aftershock. And you Let’s dive deep into it. Sure. In your article, you mentioned that Toffler didn’t get things right. And we’re not here talking just about Topher, we’ll start off with that, but talk about what’s happening in the world right now as well. So you mentioned that Telford didn’t get it right. He had many things that he had predicted, for example, we would be growing the organs in the lab in the mid 80s. So there’s many things that he tried to predict, but they didn’t go right. But tell us about that era, the early 80s, the late 70s, that what was the world like, at that time? Well, my era was really starting in the late 60s, when I took my first job in healthcare, I became a clinical photographer in a 300 bed Cancer Hospital in the late 60s. So there was General excitement about science. In fact, as a high school student in the early 60s, I was able to receive a National Science Foundation study grant, because the American government was so concerned about the Cold War and being able to beat the Russians to the moon and win the very scientific thing. So the 60s is really the era when I grew up. So the answer to your question is was a real excitement about what we could do with science, science fairs, getting jobs in engineering suddenly really rose to the top. So there was a field that science could solve a lot of problems, the field that I ultimately adopted coming to it from research, meteorology, atmospheric physics, namely economics was in a transformation from pretty much the economists being a good thinker who followed logic to the economists being a numbers based guy or gal that did heavy quantitative work. So why would stress i think is my best summary of that 70s period coming out of the 60s is a real focus on quantitative analysis. Not that I agree with it. I think I’ve made it clear my chapter I think the balance is important. In fact, I love about the work you’re doing when I read up on you is looking at the ways to merge all this and the book and the other contributors. I think, in large part do that too. But in order lesson sorry for being wordy. It was real belief that we could add objective analysis numerical quantitative stuff to our good thought processes and begin to design policies that can make a difference. Thank you Now since those days since the 70s, and I was quite young ladies, as you can probably guess, we had no technology as we have today. We didn’t have cell phones, we didn’t have personal computers, like, really, we were literally in an age of fax machines, telex machines, I would say color televisions were a great thing to have, it would probably have been a big thing, at least where I was growing up and coming out what was it to be able to do foresight work to look into the future of the world. And when Toffler as an example, started predicting things, and he came up with a third wave, Future Shock a bunch of what what was surrounding you thinkers like Toffler, what was it that you guys are feeding off to help shape conversations about tomorrow? Well, one big difference between the the 70s when I did my graduate work, and today was I think, the openness of the intellectual community, intellectuals have not divided into conservatives or liberals, there was a real, a real excitement about just being able to share ideas. So symposia were very, very common, the idea of just bringing together collective people to think with no expectation that there would necessarily be a common denominator wasn’t like a liberal think tank and a conservative think tank, it was a think tank, and people were really excited about trying to envision things together. And I think that’s one of the biggest differences. Also, you mentioned, the technologies were absent, you bet I did most of the work for my PhD dissertation and study of how doctors set their fees with a slide rule. The University of Colorado where I did the work, I had a computer center with graduate students, if they wanted to use that had to do their own punch cards, haul them into the computer center between roughly midnight and six in the morning when none of the PhD scientists wanted to be there. So it was not a technology absent era. But we had a different technology, I and most of the other people doing quantitative work at that time knew how to use a spreadsheet, we did an awful lot with calculators where he just punched in, I remember my in graduate school buying my first Hewlett Packard electronic calculator, it would do nothing but add, multiply, divide and subtract. It costs $300, which was probably a semesters tuition, and all it would do is add multiply, so I didn’t have to divide and subtract. So it’s funny, I’ve never quite had someone posed the question in that way. But we didn’t have the technologies. We really had exciting intellectual discussions, I fear that we’ve gotten to the point now where we have the technologies and don’t spend much time thinking so somewhere between technology rise and the thinking we had to do, we’ve lost something, even though we’ve gained incredible powers. Several of the other authors and aftershock show artificial intelligence, not just in healthcare in a variety of fields, you show that in your own work to allows us to do a lot of different things. But I think what I really lament is the lack of shared intellectual discourse with an open mind and completely understand that when I was growing up, having a scientific calculator was amazing. It was just amazing. And it would do so many different things. I remember when I was in my, I think my sixth grade or my fifth grade, that was my first exposure to the computer. And it was a BBC Micro in our computer lab. And it had that small black and white monitor. And what we do on it is play Pac Man to start off with that was it that was Pac Man was my introduction to computers with the big floppy disks, of course, yeah. So when I look at, and I reflect upon, you know, the current era and how you compare it, because majority of us think about our past all the time, right? I’m one of those people 50% of my thinking is about Okay, how are things before so when I start thinking about the past, and then I look at all the things we have access to today, I’m just so grateful for the world and technology and what has culminated until now, because now we can reach millions of people in one second and talking about COVID-19. Look at the amount of information. You could do a PhD in COVID-19 sitting at home if I just sat there and studied everything. So just to make a point. I think we’ve I have seen this in the last 2030 years. And it’s so amazing and humbling to be living in an era where we have access to creating an impact. I want to ask you about COVID-19. We’re living through the era of COVID-19. You’re a healthcare futurist. Let’s talk about where we are today. Like Did you think this was a possibility a few years ago or decades ago? What were your kind of thoughts about something like this happening? Well, I’ve always believed that we were not taking epidemic science seriously enough. It’s interesting. I joined the faculty of the University of Colorado medical school in 1973. Under a federal grant, this was the first time the government was making money available to medical schools to hire economists. And very quickly I discovered the dean and other significant people who control the curriculum at the medical school didn’t want economists thought so inculcated into physicians minds. physicians were supposed to think about disease, not about the dollars and cents of treatment. So I was very quickly diverted to teaching epidemiology and all I had almost no training in epidemiology. I was qualified quantitative scientists, I started teaching the science of transmission of disease. That’s incredible epidemics were very significant. And I’ve taught the classes I feel somewhat conversant in the basic vocabulary. But I have felt for years, we were underprepared for an epidemic, I could not have predicted that it would be COVID-19. One of the real exciting and negative scary way of epidemiologic science is how much just comes from genetic permutation. But I’ve been telling people, even in my writings, as recently as the last month or two, before the month or two before COVID-19 became very clear, to expect a surprise, I had no idea what it would be between expect a big surprise, something was lurking on the horizon. And I really believe that the biggest one in the five to 10 year horizon is global climate change. But to have an epidemic come up like this should not surprise us in the slightest. That’s why I’m so dismayed at our lack of preparation, we should have been ready for this. Because quite frankly, I think anyone who understands epidemiological science and the history of disease for 1000s of years about which there’s an extended record should not be surprised by COVID-19. It is no surprise at all, what’s disgusting factors, we are prepared. One of the interesting things, Jeff, and you are so much more well learned than I am. And I’m just going to try and share my perspective here as speaking with people from Europe over the last few weeks, somebody from Sweden, somebody from Copenhagen, and different people are dealing with COVID-19 in a different way different governments are dealing with it a different way. I don’t know what your views are on whether the lack of preparedness is more political reasons. Because of you know, who’s in power? What are they doing? Or is it because the intellectual class the people who drive the thinkers, they’ve stopped thinking, right? I mean, I refuse to see that it’s only just the government that’s not doing enough. I mean, we’re supposed to do a lot more we’re supposed to have these conversations and in within think tanks and talk about what we can do. So in Europe as an example, the government’s response is completely different. Government has stepped back, politicians have stepped back and they’ve put domain experts up front, and they’re dictating the terms and conditions of how lockdowns will happen. What will happen, what are we doing different? or What should we do different to avoid something like this impacting us so much in the future? Well, I personally believe that the tragedy is the anti scientific bias that’s developed in the United States. I’m very familiar with France, I’ve lived there for several years and and stay in close touch with France watch French news on TV and alike. So I can compare the US and France and France has never had anything close to the level that we’ve had. It is anti scientific thing. And that’s been a real political problem in the United States, the anti vaxxers people that want the freedom to decide whether they can have large meetings, face to face when it’s clearly not wise, not recommended by the medical community. So I agree 100%, clapping silently when you made your comment about we should be having these think tanks in these discussions. And I’ve attended many of those over the years in my role as a health data scientist, but they were largely funded by the federal government. In fact, the CDC, if I went back and thought of that, several meetings where I was that sort of statistician and resident in the 90s, or even into the first year or two of the george bush administration, when this began to turn around, they were government funded, but because the government funding was seen as a challenge to certain religious beliefs, or people would believe the cockamamie stories about mercury poisoning and vaccines that are being given to kids, we say beginning with Bush, and I was actually interviewed by the Bush administration to be a fairly significant person in Health and Human Services at the time. But when when I pointed out that I absolutely had no truck for these anti science people. They told me, sorry, your your interview is done, we’re not going to use you. We have to listen to the non scientists look where we are today. So I guess I’m my answer to your question is that, yes, I really lament the lack of these. But I think that the best source of the discussions in the past has been the government. I’m not a regulator type at all. I think that the government needs to be supporting that. And one of the reasons we’re so unprepared in the United States today is the people that the positions would be responsible for having had these debates and turning into policy recommendations at the White House are empty. We simply have the powers that be in the Trump administration, making sure that those people weren’t there to do that structure set up. It’s simply the cave into political forces in this country is causing us to pay a tragic price. I’m thinking just thinking out loud. You know, perhaps one of the answers to this could be just a lot of transparency, I mean, transparency of data, so a lot of data and regenerating so much knowledge and data right now, which is really factual that, hey, here’s all the data. This is what this means. And this is what it can do. Not a politician, I’m just presenting data. And you know, when we have transparency, go to different groups of people, maybe that’s a way to influence them. And to help them make a better decision on it right is that way to perhaps go further, I couldn’t disagree. That’d be a hypocrite if I did anything other than talk about data. But funny, I’m sort of a renegade within the data science field, because I’m one of the few people that’s authored medical school statistics books, for example, talking about the quality of data. And then I’ve taken on editors of major medical journals for walk overly overseeing these remarkably solid scientific studies. But the numbers weren’t accurate measurements of what they thought they were looking at. So I couldn’t be a stronger supporter of the database approaches that you’re talking about. But the accuracy of the data is terribly important. And we have almost no accurate data about COVID-19. Right now, as you pointed out, in your eloquent question, a moment ago, it caught us by surprise, the people would have been responsible for quickly ramping up the test. I didn’t do it for developing the databases. Nobody was in that office because it was empty for political reasons. And so we’re paying an enormous price. But I want good data. But I won’t be able to answer questions about what to do about COVID. Till we know how many different variations of it there are the interaction between, say one or two variations of the virus with our own individual health statuses with our own genetics. One of the other authors in aftershock has a great article about the need for it of data approaches. And we need to make sure that we’ve got good data and we don’t right now. So even if I Well, I guess one of the reasons I’ve chosen not to become a COVID expert right now, because I’m sure I could, you know, book, lots of interviews would be that I don’t have good numbers to stand on. And we need that desperately. Absolutely. Jeff, I know, we don’t have a lot of time with you today. But I really do want to appreciate all the time you’re spending with us. I want to ask you about the future. I want to ask you about the future, not just healthcare but of human being. Get my crystal ball here, okay, us as people, there you go. You got to get the ball up. Are we headed when it comes to health care when it comes to living a longer life? Many people predict that in the next 15 to 20 years, maybe we’ll have these nanobots and humanity will read an escape velocity. And we can extend our lifetimes by 20 3050 100 years help us understand where we’re headed in the next 10 to 15 years. I think I answered that question today differently than I would have answered it three months ago, given the COVID virus we are going to be so drapped put together resources for carrying on with medical research that I would have given you a fairly optimistic view about the roles of technologies. Right now. I’m worried about the survival of enough physicians and advanced practice nurses and clinical pharmacists and other people to deliver health care. I’m worried about the survival of research communities, not just the scientists themselves, some will die from COVID. But but they won’t have the money and will have terrible political fights. So three months ago, I would have told you Yeah, I’m pretty optimistic that the genetic revolution will prevail. I’m absolutely And sadly, there’s no excitement. As I say, when I look at my crystal ball, I see chaos. I have an article circulating right now hopefully to get on the editorial pages of one of the big newspapers. But it really sadly points to a rather chaotic situation. And that means I would be violating my own principles. If I were to tell you what happened, because I don’t have a slightest idea. Chaos means that which is operating with no overall direction, no preordained plan. And so there’s a cynicism, there’s no delight in telling you that. But if I were to tell you, here’s what I think is going to happen 10 to 15 years from now, I would be making something up as opposed to giving you a viable analysis, based on good data of real trends. I’m very excited about our new medical sciences, if capabilities we’ve never had before, but we’re being set back so tragically by what’s going on right now. And with respect to hopefully on the positive side, let’s say we overcome this challenge. And somehow in the next two to five years, I really believe COVID-19 is going to have a long term impact. It’s not going to go away when the vaccine is out, you know, I would say maybe even five years until we put it in our distant memory to say, okay, that happened one day, let’s say post five years timeframe and we’re back to being amazing and fundings are there. Everything’s people are back on research. What are some of the things that you would want to see to really take shape? Is it drug discovery? Is it the cure for cancer? Is it you know, a cure for pandemics? What are some of your favorite things that you would want acceleration to happen in? Well, I think one of the biggest impediments for the kind of desirable future You and I both would love to see is the way we organize the personnel in our healthcare delivery system. It is so 20th century to assume that medical care is provided when a patient is in office with the door closed seeing a doctor first of all, my passion for the last several years has been studying the role of the advanced practitioners, the nurse practitioners, certified nurse midwives, clinical pharmacist, PhD. level or doctoral level physical therapist, these people are at least as good I just published a book called not what the doctor ordered the third edition of it. I’ve got over 300 peer reviewed journal articles in there showing that the quality of the non physician has risen to be as good as the physician. So I’m not anti physician, I’d spent 18 years of my life proudly as a professor to medical schools and I’m very proud of one of my kids. It’s a physician, I love American medicine, but to argue that we should return to a system that’s controlled by doctors I simply can’t do so an answer to your question. I would love to see us respect all of the people who are qualified to see patients directly and start building teams that respect those skills. Also telemedicine. It’s funny I and very dear friend and colleague named Mark ringel, and a few other people have been pushing telemedicine for well over 20 years, and all of a sudden, people are discovering it work well. Our colleagues in the military and academic centers with people that have dealt in rural health have known for 20 years of telemedicine works but the powers that be haven’t wanted to do it because it got in their way. So I think we need to come back with just as much an acceptance of telemedicine the virtual relationship. In other words, you and I, instead of talking about future can be talking about my heart condition, just no need for us to be having this face to face. And it doesn’t need to be between just a doctor and a patient. I also think we need to change the healthcare delivery system. I I think that health insurance is a terrible way to build on the future of healthcare, because health insurance is controlled by the people that have financial interest. So I’m taking a big position as a real gadfly, trying to get the insurance companies think about quitting this waste of all the resources we put into processing payment and start default delivering care directly. So instead of figuring out ways to make insurance more affordable, I’d like to start society’s thinking about ways to make healthcare more, more affordable, so that we take the most common diseases, the diabetes, the mental health conditions, and and start providing those in the community rather than giving you insurance to people that may not be capable of doing it in a good way. And it’s fascinating. I know that you’re in Canada, and I’m not the first person to come up with that idea. Their current prime minister Home Health and Social Welfare guy, a guy named Mark Lalanne, back in the 70s started thinking, you know, Canada’s very progressive country. My grandpa was kidding. I love Canada, but Lalanne came up with the idea. Why don’t we just start, you know, let’s not talk about universal health insurance. Let’s talk about universal access. So let’s find the diseases the top five diseases that most Canadians or us Americans are dying from and provide care directly to them. And so I can ramble. I’ve got several more ideas, but I’ll put his let’s get creative and reinvent the healthcare delivery system. It’s sort of like the dilemma my Parisian friends are facing right now in notre DOM, you want to rebuild notre Dom to look like it didn’t 1300 or to meet the needs of a religious and cultural community for the 21st century. I’m clearly in the latter camp. And so rather than figure out how to rebuild what we had, let’s admit it had lots of flaws. And Notre Dame did burn to the ground, which is, after all, pretty big flaw and redesign. So not not restore, but redesign. And so I get real excited. And you notice my first couple of answers to your question, and a lot hats off to people like you and other contributors to aftershock who are doing the same thing. But I’d love to use this as an opportunity to think of doing things differently and better with the new tools that you so rightly posited as the questions foundation. Amazing, Jeff, thank you. I can’t thank you enough for your time. One final thing, tell our listeners and viewers where can they find more information about you follow your work, tell us about your book, just point us in the right direction. Couple of them the latest one is not what the doctor ordered. The one before that is upgrading leadership’s crystal ball, which is a lot about the things that you and I talked about. My website is a good place to start. And it’s Jeff Bower words je FF ba Yu er WORDS calm. It’s in beta. Right now I’m just revising my professional stances, I also pursue a dream to become a struggling artist. And so what I’m really trying to do as a futurist, by the way, is to merge my quantitative and scientific backgrounds with my artistic background, and actually had a Foundation grant from the Kellogg Foundation about 30 years ago, to learn to be an artist, and they gave me that as an assistant chancellor at an academic health center. So I’m trying to merge the worlds of art and that and Jeff, our words, calm is a good place to get started. And I love dialogue. I can learn a lot from people just, you know, engaging in discussions. It’s wonderful, you are doing this and again, I appreciate the other contributors to aftershock but Jeff power words calm, I’ll show you my new mission to create or to merge artistic thinking with scientific thinking and imagine new possibilities. And anyone that looks will see the title of my blog. In my my latest blog post on the website is called in search of green swans. We’re always looking for the rare event. The Black Swans, at least Black Swans exist. My new passion is to create green swans and then three to five years from now as you and I both believe I agree with you, by the way. Hopefully things are back to a semblance of normality that allows us to think constructively about the future. Let’s do some green swans. Amazing Jeff, thank you so much. Please, folks, check out Jeff’s work, not what the doctor ordered third edition updating leadership’s crystal ball to many amazing works by Jeff also His website def Bower words.com. Jeff, thank you so much. We wish you a safe time and safe passage to win 19 and this era that surrounded us right now, but please keep writing keep inspiring us. Tell us about what’s happening because people are listening. We’re listening to you, and hopefully we’re going to catch up real to him. Thank you so much. I look forward to coming up to Toronto and doing that face to face when it’s safe. You stay. Absolutely, it’d be my pleasure. Thank you so much. Thank you. Hey, friend, this is Ian Khan. If you like what you saw on my video, then please subscribe to my YouTube channel and be inspired every single day with innovative content that keeps you fresh, updated and ready for the future. For more information. Also, visit my website at Ian khan.com

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Aaron Frank of Singularity University on the Ian Khan Show

In this episode, i speak with Aaron Frank, co-contributor to the book After Shock.

Aaron Frank is a researcher, writer, and consultant who has spent nearly a decade working in Silicon Valley. He was one of the earliest employees at Singularity University, technology education and innovation center based in the San Francisco Bay Area, where he most recently served as Principal Faculty.

As a writer, his articles have appeared in Vice, Wired UK, Forbes, Venturebeat, and Singularity Hub.

As a speaker, Aaron has lectured for audiences and organizations including The Coca-Cola Company, Under Armour, the CIA and Department of Defense, FC Barcelona, the NBA and many others.

He routinely advises large companies, startups, and government organizations on trends related to a broad set of emerging technologies, with a focus on augmented and virtual reality.

Aaron began his work with Singularity University on the business side of the organization while it was a startup with fewer than 15 employees. He was a core part of the team responsible for the early stage growth of the company where he managed business development and strategic partnerships.
Prior to joining SU, Aaron worked at a Washington DC-based life science consulting firm.

Aaron is also a founding board member of Community Carrot, a 501c3 non-profit organization with a mission of breaking the cycle of poverty for Washington D.C.’s opportunity youth, now also operating in Seattle Washington. With funding from the local D.C. government, the organization provides entrepreneurship training and access to capital for young adults who grow up in poverty.

Originally from Lower Merion, Pennsylvania, Aaron has a degree in Communications and minor in Philosophy from the University of Maryland, and currently enrolled in an MBA program at the University of Oxford.

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About After Shock

The world’s foremost futurists reflect on 50 years of Future Shock—and look ahead to the next 50

Contributors include:

Alan Kay
Aaron Frank
Adrienne Mayor
Alexander Mankowsky
Alexandra Ivanovitch
Alisha Bhagat
Amy Zalman
Anders Sorman-Nilsson
Andra Keay
Andrew Curry
Andy Hines
Anita Sengupta
Anne Lise Kjaer
Aris Persidis
Aubrey de Grey
Barry O’Reilly
Barry Vacker
Bill Davidow
Bill Diamond
Bryan Alexander
Byron Reese
Carlos Osorio
Carver Mead
Cat Tully
Cindy Frewen
Clem Bezold
Daniel Burrus
Daniel Levine
David Brin
David Guston
David Krakauer
David J. Staley
David Weinberger
Deb Westphal
Diane M. Francis
Donna Dupont
Eleanor “Nell” Watson
Eric Daimler
Erica Bol
Erik Qualman
Fotis Sotiropoulos
George Gilder
Grady Booch
Gray Scott
Hannes Sjoblad
Harish Natarajan
Hazel Henderson
Helen Messier
Ian Khan
Ignacio Pena
Jack Uldrich
James Canton
Jane McGonigal
Jason Jackson
Jason Schenker
Jay Gambetta
Jeff Eisenach
Jeffrey C. Bauer
Jerome Glenn
Jerry Fishenden
Joe Dispenza
Joe Tankersley
Joel Garreau
John L. Petersen
John M. Smart
John Sack
John Sanei
John Schroeter
Jonathan Venn
José Morey
Kaitlyn Sadtler
Kirk Borne
Klee Irwin
Kris Østergaard
Lisa Bodell
Maciej Kranz
Martin Guigui
Martin Rees
Maggie Greyson
Michael Tomczyk
Michel Laberge
Mick Ebeling
Moon Ribas
Naveen Jain
Neil Jacobstein
Newt Gingrich
Patricia Lustig & Gill Ringland
Paul Saffo
Paul Stimers
Po Bronson & Arvind Gupta
Ray Kurzweil
Rebecca Costa
Richard Browning
Richard Slaughter
Richard Watson
Richard Yonck
Rodrigo Nieto Gómez
Rohit Bhargava
Ross Dawson
Ruth Miller
Sanjiv Chopra & Pankaj K Vij
Sohail Inayatullah
Sridhar Mahadevan
Stan Rosen
Stephanie Mehta
Steve Waite
Tanya Accone
Terrence (Terry) Sejnowski
Teun Koetsier
Theodore Jay Gordon
Thomas Frey
Timothy Chou
Vikram Mansharamani
Wolfgang Fengler
Zoltan Istvan

Publication Details
ISBN Print: 978-0-9997364-4-9
ISBN eBook: 978-0-9997364-5-6

Full Transcript : Hi friends this is Ian Khan and you’re listening to the Ian Khan show. In today’s episode, we’re talking to somebody who’s a contributor to the book aftershock. So this is an aftershock special episode. Today I’m speaking with Aaron Frank who is a researcher, writer and lecturer based at Singularity University as full time principal faculty. His work has been published in devices motherboard, you’ve wired, UK, Forbes and VentureBeat and as a speaker, he’s addressed many audiences across business and governments, including the CIA, the Department of Defense and Under Armour, and many others. Let’s speak with Aaron Frank.

Aaron, welcome to the Ian Khan show. It’s such a pleasure to connect with you, you and I are now bound together by aftershock. This amazing book that our friend, john shorter has put together and I say this every time every time I mentioned john shorter, he needs to pay me $1 I’m going to be a millionaire. Aaron, how are you? I’m doing well considered, how are you? I’m doing well. You know what I’m trying to keep busy. There’s so much to do. And it’s just changed the way I do things. That’s the only thing that has changed posting a lot of leadership live streams. Every Wednesday, we’re doing leadership live streams, we get three, four or 500 people online and they’re talking about stuff, you get people together leaders talking about talking to people. So there’s a lot happening with us keeping me busy. We’re doing podcast recordings, they’re keeping busy. And there’s plus other work as usual, power things over at urine, you’re in San Francisco. Yeah, we’ll check a life what’s happening. Things are a bit volatile at the moment, as you can imagine, but I am in San Francisco, we’ve been in a shelter at home directive now for about a month, I think it’s actually almost exactly one month tomorrow. And we’ve just had it extended out another month at a minimum. So another month of it, I’m continuing to live my life pretty much as it was before I worked from home, I had been working from home primarily a lot before that. And actually, so I’m affiliated with Singularity University as a full time faculty member there. But really my my core research at the moment, actually, for a while looks at the use of online virtual worlds as a way to do remote social experiences, both for learning and development, education, you know, just recreational. And so obviously, that topic has become, you know, far more relevant in the context of, you know, the pandemic, so, yeah, so I have a lot to do a lot of things keeping me busy. You know, it sounds like you’re keeping busy with a lot of online engagements as well, which is, you know, I think that’s gonna be the way the world for a bit. Absolutely. I think there’s, you know, the digital transformation has been put on steroids, and it’s just on such a curveball right now, I’ve been having so many different conversations, one part of which is that it vendors are over flooded with requests, everybody wants to go online, zoom, whatever, name it there, and it’s just changing the way we work. But there’s some industries that are struggling, there’s places where things need to be done physically, and they cannot be done. But and that’s something coming out of my leadership livestream that I’m doing is how’s industry transforming? And what’s happening? Let’s talk about aftershock. You’re very young, generally speaking, I read your essay. And that makes me super qualified, by the way, because I read everybody’s essay before I speak to them. So I am one of those rare people who have read a majority of the book and you weren’t born, you’re a millennial categorization wise. Correct. And you’re in your early 30s, which makes you a young adult. You’re out of university A few years ago, I’m assuming, right? You’re much younger than I am. You’re an amazing generation. I love your generation, right? Because I feel millennials have such a huge potential and they do things in such a great way. And I hate tagging labeling people like a millennial and, but just for the sake of categorization, let’s talk about Toffler. Toffler wrote this book 50 years ago, not this one, Future Shock 50 years ago, and then I was even born then, right, whenever he conjured up whatever you wrote, whatever you thought, My mind is blown, how could he even think and perceive those things? How do you see that book? When you read it? What were your thoughts growing up in an era of technology? Right. But yeah, I mean, it’s interesting, because I always had this number being quite fascinated by this idea that, you know, most of what we refer to as science or technology, or, you know, modern infrastructure, or things that, you know, largely haven’t existed for very long, you know, the, it was almost like for, you know, however long you want to measure it 1000s of years, if you were hungry, you had to go out into the woods and, you know, stab something and then now we have, you know, modern supply chains, and you know, everything has blinking lights in it. And I think what Toffler his book does a really fascinating job of doing is, it does look at very specific anecdotes, but it’s not anecdote based. what he’s done is he’s captured a lot of sort of almost longer trends or themes that sort of help. Explain the nature of change and how change unfolds. In a world where, you know, at our current moment in human history, it’s a lot easier now to perceive this rapid speed that seems to be occurring, especially in science and technology, and engineering, and innovation and all of these things. And so I think when you read a book, like Toffler, it’s really interesting, even though it’s a 50 year old, you know, work, it’s still done a nice job of capturing the themes related to understanding how to make sense of change as they occurred in a world where change is happening faster and faster. I really believe that for any generation to live successfully, they need to know what’s happening around them, right, and Toffler, whether you read the third wave, or you read the Future Shock, it’s a really nice read whether you understand 5% of that 10% of the book, or 100%, I really recommend everyone read books and try and understand different perspectives. Now, you grew up in an era where you mentioned in your essay, and here’s a proof that I actually read it that when you were growing up, your brothers and sisters and siblings had these large Disc players, and you know, they would carry them. And that was the era that you grew up. And we don’t even have CD players anymore, right? We don’t even have iPods anymore, because we do. But they’re done because everything is just on one device, or iPods also make phone calls now. Right? That just makes phone calls. Yeah, life has changed a lot. How do you envision this rapid pace of this accelerated change? Do you have you personally seen change accelerating faster? Since since you have been seeing things around you? Yeah, it’s a good question. I actually, I think about it, I think what what’s interesting is perceiving the rate of change in your own personal life doesn’t happen in a uniform speed, where and I think the easiest way to I love thinking about this, because, you know, parts of my life, I live in, like the most rapid, fast changing, you know, 21st century. And and I would say that a good example of that is anytime I’m using my, you know, my mobile phone, you know, I have a, I have an iPhone, you know, it’s, I can download new apps, it’s, you know, software updates. But when I drive to the office, or if I go to work, I’m driving a 20 year old Honda Accord, right. So this is a, my parents gave me this car, and I still drive it, you know, I’m gonna drive it forever, until it disintegrates into dust, it’s a great car. So during my commute, or anytime I’m in the car, I’m living 20 years in the past. So I think what’s interesting is that it really depends on what part of your life you’re living, and perceiving, the rapid pace of change that’s swirling around us in society happens in sort of tachy moments of, you know, because I’m going to need a new car at some point. And that experience will be like this mind blowing, you know, I won’t know all the bells and whistles and Bluetooth enabled internet connected cars, you know, being in a Tesla, for me is like, driving around in a spaceship. You know, I’ve, you know, I’ve got some co workers that have, it’s interesting to note that change happens, but it doesn’t happen, you know, it happens in like spurts and growth at different points in your life. And I think, you know, just consumer technology is probably the easiest one to see, just, you know, I remember the cell phone I had, you know, even five years ago is nothing compared to what you know, the device that I currently own, can do and does do, and the fact that I can just sit on a train and watch, you know, European soccer that wouldn’t even have been broadcast into my living room. Growing up in the United States, I can watch, you know, anywhere in the world, from a device in my pocket, these kinds of things. You know, if you really step back and perceive them, you’ll reflect on them. They’re pretty incredible. Yeah, completely different parts of your life where they happen slowly. And there’s many things that are changing. There’s bigger technologies, when we talk about them, okay? The cloud technologies are changing something or social media is changing a lot of things and you have a lot about, and you mentioned, virtual reality, augmented reality. Let’s talk about that. What is the world of augmented reality? What is virtual reality? Is it just these big headsets that we can put on our, what do these devices do? Yeah, I mean, it’s a good question. Actually, one of my favorite aspects of this conversation is and I think you’re just kind of touched on it, are the terms like what are the terms mean? Because in the world that I live in, it’s such a new paradigm that no one really agrees on what the terms are yet so usually, augmented reality is referring to a concept where you know, most people are familiar with Google Glass you can enhance your experience of the world with you know, visual or it can be audio you know, if you if you’re listening to Google Maps, in your headphones walking around the city, that that is a form of augmented reality computer, eating your experience of the world with additional information. Virtual Reality, on the other hand, typically refers to you know, the fully immersive headsets that you’re wearing, where you’re completely shut off from, you know, the real world but your digital device But the point that I think is important to note about like, so what are these technologies, the key ingredients, all of these kinds of technologies. And this is a term that’s starting to become more popularized being called spatial computing. And what that means is this idea that what’s true of both augmented and virtual reality is that your computing environment now really, for the first time, it exists in three dimensional space, you know, like, right now You and I are talking on it, we’re looking at each other on a two dimensional window, a screen, you know, fairly soon, not too long, we could actually probably do this today, if we wanted, be sitting across from each other in a three dimensional spatial way where I’m interacting with an avatar, or a hologram of you that you know, has facial place, you know, across the table from me. And so it’s that element of three dimensional space, that’s the really key ingredient to these technologies, that makes them a very big deal and makes them what is likely the biggest shift in computing interfaces paradigm that we’ve seen in quite a while. So amazing, I love it. So the future of technology, as it seems now is that maybe potentially, we’ll still have cell phones for some time, but they might change their form, they might become smaller, they might become sleeker, I don’t know, these are some possibilities, we might have holographic devices that you just hold on your hand. And they open up a new world off a 3d immersive, interactive gesture based voice based interactivity. And it does different things for you whether you know, there’s an avatar that pops up and tells you gives you real time 3d directions of where to go next, or, you know, it points you towards somewhere or pops up a document in front of you in 3d, is that really going to be real? Is that where we’re headed? Absolutely. I think if you think about, you know, we’re so used to this era of computing, where if you think about, you know, how clunky it is, as a skill to learn how to move a mouse on a two dimensional screen or type, you know, onto a keyboard, to look at your, you know, the thing that you’re making happen on your computer happens on a two dimensional window, what you’re describing this idea of, you know, seeing documents, you know, pull out in front of you in three dimensional space, or, you know, like Wayfinding, or navigation, you know, walking around the city for the first time. And instead of, you know, trying to abstract from a two dimensional map on Google Maps, that shows you where to go, which is, you know, it’s useful, but actually imagine being able to see in three dimensional space in the real world in context of the real world, you know, where to go, how to navigate, you know, these kinds of concepts are certainly in development at the core technology, infrastructure to support these kinds of tools are being rapidly developed at the moment by a variety of companies. And I think what it’ll do is it’ll make our computing lives far more intuitive, it’ll feel just more like a natural extension, you know, human, the human mind is a, you know, it’s a 3d thinking thing. We’re born into this world, navigating three dimensional space, you know, we we learn by picking things up with our hands and bumping into things in space. And so just what we’re talking about, and what you’ve just described as essentially bringing our digital lives into that three dimensional landscape, which is a far more intuitive way of participating in our digital lives. So the implications of this could be in different industries, we can think about new ways of learning, right, I have a four year old, and he’s got a certain way that he learns that his age and this could completely change the way kids now learn, right? as they go from their kindergarten to their university or whatever not. And now you have a completely a shift in learning. And we’re breaking that 100 year old tradition of sitting in a classroom. And it’s happening right now as well, right now, because of COVID-19. We can look at healthcare, there could be changes there. When it comes to learning, training, doctors accelerating the pace of how fast they learn the future of work. I mean, we’re going to renaissance of a forced Renaissance with respect the future of work right now, because of COVID-19. But what are the implications with, you know, virtual reality or one of these spatial computing devices? Help us understand maybe a couple of different industries, maybe healthcare and education, if you will, that what could be the possibilities? I’ll talk about education because I think that is for two reasons. One, the most immediately relevant aspect that will impact most people’s lives like every every employee, doesn’t matter what industry you’re in. There’s education is a part of everyone’s job, you have to learn what your role is, you have to learn about your company, you have to learn what the tasks are of whatever, you know, role you’re in. And so I think for the other reason I mentioned education is that education seems to be the most useful application area for spatial computing augmented and virtual reality at the moment, there’s probably no, there’s no limit to the kinds of, you know, tools. Let’s take as an example, probably the most well known is Walmart. So Walmart, for example. So they have around the United States, I don’t know the number, but they have a number of training academies, where if you’re a manager hired by Walmart, you go to, you know, a several day course, where you learn all of the different things like you know, how to stock shelves, so that their fire compliance, how to deal with shoplifters, how to ensure you know, your deli counter is hygenic compliant, all of these things. And so the traditional way of learning all of these skills is you learn in a classroom, you’re sitting, you know, watching PowerPoint presentations. But now what Walmart has done, and they were really one of the first to invest in, you know, developing immersive simulated environments, they put all of their, you know, high potential managers into a virtual environment inside of a virtual reality headset, and they’re actually experientially shown all of these scenarios, here’s how to make sure your shelves are fire compliant, here’s how to deal with crowds, on, you know, a busy shopping day. And what they’re able to do with that is measure the performance outcomes, the learning outcomes, engagement, so they can actually measure how engaged a learner is inside one of these environments based on things like eye tracking, and gaze tracking, performance metrics, you know, sort of like in a gamified way. And so, you know, that’s Walmart, if you can do that. And part of, you know, part of the learning is like very tactical, you know, here’s a skill, here’s how to do something. And part of it is more soft skills. Here’s more like social interaction, here’s what it’s like to experience interacting with a customer in this environment. And so you can, you know, whether it’s a hard skill, like, you know, I’ve been in music simulator, where you learn how to run a DJ control a DJ controller, so if you’re like electronic music artists, never you know, if you ever wondered what those big, you know, Niles dials and knobs are, you know, for you can learn not by watching a YouTube video, but by actually using your own hands how to manipulate these things. And so, basically, I think what I’ll sort of end by this, making this point that what these tools like augmented and virtual reality, whether it’s teaching, you know, surgeons in healthcare, or nurses or salespeople or, you know, doing HR training, these technologies are the closest thing we have to the scene from, let’s say, the matrix where Neo says, I know kung fu, or they just download it directly into your brain. It’s the fastest way of learning and acquiring a new skill, because you’re not just watching it on a screen, you’re actually doing it and experiencing it, and performing it yourself inside of a simulated environment. And that, I think, is one of the biggest reasons that these technologies are a big deal going forward. Thank you. So when we talk about this entire world that you just opened up for us, there’s many different technologies that are available today from the end, the first one was supposed to Google lens, google glasses, which I don’t know if they’re manufacturing right or not, I don’t think so. But you’ve got many different providers that have come Oculus Rift, and a ton of others who are many of them in Asia, there’s the form factor as is incredibly different. When you go to CES, you see all these new gadgets and devices, help us understand that if I were, let’s say an organization, I was, I was talking to a bunch of manufacturing leaders in the morning. So let’s take manufacturing as an example. And as a manufacturing, industry, CEO, leader, whoever I want to start getting dip my toes into virtual reality, augmented reality, mixed reality and see how I can use that to train my employees or do something with it. health and safety training or product training, how do we get started? What devices or what headsets? Should we look at what tech because there’s so many of them? Like, where’s the starting point of saying, Okay, let me break this down into, you know, three stages, initially, we’ll get our people to just interact second stage will get them to do detailed things, or maybe different types of, you know, levels of this technology help us understand. Yeah, well, I’ll take the manufacturing industry as an example. But I think it might be this is where you start to speciate into different strategies and approaches based on your industry for manufacturing is actually one of the sort of most developed when it comes to deploying these kinds of tools like heads up displays, or you know, using, you know, hands free systems like the Microsoft HoloLens to do maintenance or repair, you know, one of the earliest examples so there’s really two approaches you could either, you know, put a team together to develop and build your own in house capacity or capabilities. So there’s a company in Germany placement group who do elevator manufacturing, repair and maintenance and so they in house put a team together to build using the Microsoft HoloLens, a way to do hands free maintenance work. So what they were really testing for was, you know, how quickly can we get a maintenance worker through their tasks and what they find is that if you actually have to go through, you know, a two dimensional you know, handbook and then abstract into the three dimensional world, it takes a while so you know, This could you know, work that was taking hours or more was reduced down to, you know, 20 minutes or less just by getting hands free information. Here’s the part, here’s what to check, here are the steps, all of that in their field of vision. The other approach, and this is what I might recommend for most people is there are a variety of I don’t want to call them, they’re like full service providers that will give you both the hardware and the software and the training to just do everything. There’s a couple that I know of one beer in San Francisco that I’m familiar with is called scope AR. And they have competitors, there’s another company called upskill. So I don’t mean to suggest that they’re the only one, if you have viewers in Europe, there’s a company in Milan, the name is escaping me, but they’re also quite big. So there’s a few that do this, but the one I’m most familiar with is called scope AR and what they do, and they work with different hardware manufacturers. So Google Glass, for example, does still exist, but they’re specifically for enterprise like manufacturing. And what scope will do is they will basically build for you all of the infrastructure, you need to, let’s say, and so for example, they worked with Lockheed Martin to help their engineers build one of their space capsules that they have in partnership with NASA. And so these are engineers that routinely before to build this, it’s what’s called the Orion spacecraft, they would have, you know, their user manuals are not just like a few pages, like, you know, like building furniture from IKEA, these are, you know, 10s of pounds of pages, 1000s of pages. And so an engineer would have to look up the right, you know, table, memorize the torque setting, go in, and actually, you know, screw in the right screw. Now, all of that information, and they in particular, use the Microsoft HoloLens, they now get all of that information for how to assemble whatever it is, they’re building, hands free. And so with Lockheed Martin, in particular, they actually have now deployed that same approach across all their manufacturing processes across the company. But the point is, to back to your question, there are places where you can go that will help navigate this with you and for you as a business. And there’s a few, there’s plenty of companies that will help you do this. And they’ll give you the hardware that give you the training. And the outcomes seem to be especially in manufacturing, quite dramatic in reducing costs, reducing errors, and overall, just improving efficiency. Amazing. I think there’s so much application out there that we’re still getting just started with, you know, this entire virtual world, there’s a lot of confusion companies, people need to, you know, be, let’s say informed in many different ways as to what the possibilities are. And I think we’re just getting started, we haven’t the surface hasn’t even been scratched. That’s where we are. I personally do find it very promising. And although Toffler didn’t write about it, but there’s definitely things in the book that help you understand the world of tomorrow will be different, because how people will engage talk me and do all of that. I know we have a limited time today. Aaron, I want you to help us understand where people can look you up, maybe contact you or check out your work. I would say the easiest place I’ll give you my email, but on Twitter, I’m just at Aaron D. Frank, you know, feel free to connect with me on LinkedIn by email address affiliated with Singularity University is just Aaron. dot frank@su.org o RG people can get in touch with me. That’s probably the easiest way just by email or LinkedIn. And yeah, happy to connect. Amazing. Aaron, thank you so much. And here it is. Where’s your copy of Amazon, grab it. And we’re going to do I’m going to post a picture of this later on. But thank you for being part of Aftershock. And thanks to a friend john shorter for doing this aftershock is available on Amazon. And that’s where you can buy it. But thank you so much. You take care and we’ll catch up again but in the future, and I definitely wish you all the best. Stay safe and let’s come out of this COVID-19 bounce back out of it and do something amazing. Appreciate it. Thanks so much. And thanks so much. You take care, you too. Hey, friend, this is Ian Khan. 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Rodrigo Nieto, Defense Futurist in conversation with Futurist Ian Khan

In this episode i speak with Rodrigo Nieto, also a co-contributor to the recent book “After Shock”.

Bio

Dr. Rodrigo Nieto is a geostrategist and defense futurist focused on the consequences of the accelerating pace of change in homeland security and policing environments. He is a research professor at the National Security Affairs Department and at the Center for Homeland Defense and Security at the Naval Postgraduate School and has also worked as a certified facilitator and instructor for the Command College for the California Commission on Peace Officer Standards and Training (POST) and former instructor at the Executive Academy of the Emergency Management Institute. He is also a faculty member of Singularity University.

Dr. Nieto has a Ph.D. in Geopolitics from the French Institute of Geopolitics of the University of Paris. He holds a J.D. from the State University of San Luis Potosi, Mexico.

For more than a decade, Dr. Nieto has taught hundreds of high ranking law enforcement, military, and homeland security leaders how to create and execute strategies to transform their agencies to meet the requirements of rapidly changing environments and threat profiles. As an innovation expert and an academically trained geostrategist, he has built a reputation as an expert on future threats to national security and policing and how to confront them. In the course of his research, he studied the geographic conditions that affect the security ecosystem of the U.S. perimeter, conducting terrain research on every mile of this important and conflictive territory.

Dr. Nieto has multiple publications describing the adaptation capacities of global organized crime, the public policy challenges of innovation and intrapreneurship in government and homeland security, asymmetric warfare, and cybersecurity.

Dr. Nieto has been recognized as one of the top 5% performing faculty members at NPS and had the honor of winning on two occasions the NPS LCDR David L. Williams Outstanding Professor Award.

His native language is Spanish and has bilingual proficiency in English, full professional proficiency in French and intermediate knowledge of German.

As an aviation enthusiast, he holds a private pilot certificate.

About After Shock

The world’s foremost futurists reflect on 50 years of Future Shock—and look ahead to the next 50

Contributors include:

Alan Kay
Aaron Frank
Adrienne Mayor
Alexander Mankowsky
Alexandra Ivanovitch
Alisha Bhagat
Amy Zalman
Anders Sorman-Nilsson
Andra Keay
Andrew Curry
Andy Hines
Anita Sengupta
Anne Lise Kjaer
Aris Persidis
Aubrey de Grey
Barry O’Reilly
Barry Vacker
Bill Davidow
Bill Diamond
Bryan Alexander
Byron Reese
Carlos Osorio
Carver Mead
Cat Tully
Cindy Frewen
Clem Bezold
Daniel Burrus
Daniel Levine
David Brin
David Guston
David Krakauer
David J. Staley
David Weinberger
Deb Westphal
Diane M. Francis
Donna Dupont
Eleanor “Nell” Watson
Eric Daimler
Erica Bol
Erik Qualman
Fotis Sotiropoulos
George Gilder
Grady Booch
Gray Scott
Hannes Sjoblad
Harish Natarajan
Hazel Henderson
Helen Messier
Ian Khan
Ignacio Pena
Jack Uldrich
James Canton
Jane McGonigal
Jason Jackson
Jason Schenker
Jay Gambetta
Jeff Eisenach
Jeffrey C. Bauer
Jerome Glenn
Jerry Fishenden
Joe Dispenza
Joe Tankersley
Joel Garreau
John L. Petersen
John M. Smart
John Sack
John Sanei
John Schroeter
Jonathan Venn
José Morey
Kaitlyn Sadtler
Kirk Borne
Klee Irwin
Kris Østergaard
Lisa Bodell
Maciej Kranz
Martin Guigui
Martin Rees
Maggie Greyson
Michael Tomczyk
Michel Laberge
Mick Ebeling
Moon Ribas
Naveen Jain
Neil Jacobstein
Newt Gingrich
Patricia Lustig & Gill Ringland
Paul Saffo
Paul Stimers
Po Bronson & Arvind Gupta
Ray Kurzweil
Rebecca Costa
Richard Browning
Richard Slaughter
Richard Watson
Richard Yonck
Rodrigo Nieto Gómez
Rohit Bhargava
Ross Dawson
Ruth Miller
Sanjiv Chopra & Pankaj K Vij
Sohail Inayatullah
Sridhar Mahadevan
Stan Rosen
Stephanie Mehta
Steve Waite
Tanya Accone
Terrence (Terry) Sejnowski
Teun Koetsier
Theodore Jay Gordon
Thomas Frey
Timothy Chou
Vikram Mansharamani
Wolfgang Fengler
Zoltan Istvan

Publication Details
ISBN Print: 978-0-9997364-4-9
ISBN eBook: 978-0-9997364-5-6

Full Transcript : hi friends welcome to the Ian Khan show and you’re watching and listening to aftershocks special episode in this episode and the series I interview contributors to the recent book aftershock. My guest today is Dr. Rodrigo Nieto Gomez and he is a geo strategist and defense futurist who’s focused on the consequences of the accelerating pace of change in security environments and governance. He’s also professor at the Naval Postgraduate School and a faculty member of Singularity University. Let’s be with Rodrigo.

Rodrigo. Welcome to the Ian Khan show. Thank you so much for joining us. And we are here doing an aftershocks special episode. How are you Rodrigo? Very good. Thank you so much for the invitation. It’s been certainly an interesting time. And it’s probably an interesting time to be talking about the issues of Future Shock right now. Absolutely. And one of the things that is so profound and Future Shock is that it has talked about a lot of things. But I think it didn’t talk about many of the things or many aspects of our life. And let’s talk about that right now. I want to know who you already go tell our audiences? Who are you? You’ve done so much. I want to see how you see yourself. Thank you so much. Well, I work for the Department of Defense of the United States of America government. As you can hear by my accent, I’m Mexican born. So I was born and raised in Mexico, I studied law there became a NAFTA lawyer. So a lot of my companies were either Canadian or American companies that were working in the NAFTA zone. These was around the time in which we were seeing an increase in this bureaucracy in America that we call Homeland Security, I got more and more interested on that side of things a lot less on the commerce and trade aspects. So I ended up doing a masters and a PhD in geopolitics at the French Institute of geopolitics of the University of Paris, in France. After that I moved to America, I and since then, I’ve been working for the Department of Defense on the intersection between Homeland Security, what we call home security, or security, and innovation and technology, adoption. Amazing. There’s probably so much knowledge in your mind, it’s going to be impossible to take it all out. But we’re going to talk about some of those things. Nothing confidential, though. So let’s talk about aftershock. I’ve read your piece, I’ve read your piece amongst all the other interviews that I’ve been doing. So I read everybody’s piece. And then I interview those folks. And your piece is one of the longest one of the most profound, and one of the most timely ones because it talks about the red tape, it talks about policies, it talks about all of these things that the bureaucracy that we’re facing in current times and was Alvin Toffler able to predict it. And if not, where are we going with this? You’ve written a lot you’ve written about, you’ve written about the congressional hearing that Mark Zuckerberg had, and and what the response of the Congress was, and many, many other things, our relationship with cell phones and devices and technology, how do you? What is your current vision of the world right now? Well, that’s an interesting question to ask right now, right? So we are all socially isolating, although we shouldn’t be using that term anymore. A good friend of mine, a police chief of the beat from the Bay Area told me we shouldn’t be describing these social isolation, we are physically distancing each other because we need to in order to slow the growth of COVID-19. But we should be connected more than ever before we need to support each other. Right. And in that regard, I can see how technologies like the internet are becoming the backbone of societal interaction, at least in the developed world, the developing world is a different story. So the world today is very different than the one that we have a month ago, right? If we would have had this podcast at the time, and that’s probably one of the issues about future shock is that it can surprise you in ways that you don’t anticipate. And bureaucracies like Homeland Security and the things that I work are built in theory to respond to events like these one, how well does response was, well, that would be a matter for many articles analysis of the future. So right now, what I see to answer your question is a world that is more and more dependent on scientific and technological revolutions. We are all praying for one particular innovation like COVID-19 vaccine, we want to get there as fast as we can. And we’re seeing the ramp up of innovation effort, like we’ve never seen, probably since Second World War. So we are single minded, we are dealing with the dramatic consequences of an event like this one. And I don’t think that we will go back to what we were before COVID-19, I think that we’ll come back to something that will be different, hopefully better. Absolutely. And I completely agree with you and I appreciate your comment. I have the same thoughts and feelings about the current era that we’re going to I also believe that humanity is undergoing a very big stress test. This is a test we didn’t call out for but it has happened because of the consequences of us living in a very complex world. It’s a world with free flowing trade. commerce flights, millions of flights taking over every single day. We’re very connected. The world today is very, very, very connected in all senses. And maybe that’s one of the reasons why the virus has spread the way it has. And it’s spreading. In today’s era, we are also very much isolated from each other because of technology. We are all glued to our technology or our devices. But we’re still interconnected. Such a different proposition. How do we fight something? What is happening right now? It’s Yes, at a inventing a sure is great. But behaviorally, what should we do in order to avoid any of this in the future, and this goes to the point that I tried to explain on that article, there is an effort to build a bureaucratic infrastructure around this idea of Future Shock, and sometimes that construction might be aiming at the wrong thing. And I specifically point out that some of our immigration fears that we saw in the first half of the 21st century, and that have to do with less technological and more demographic changes, right, the fact that some of the global north demographic composition is changing with the influx of people flip from the global south, and we saw the bureaucracy created, but right now you’re completely right. So the ultimate goal in the next two years is going to be the creation of a vaccine that allows us to respond with the most definitive kind of answer that modern medicine can give abroad. But before that, we have what I think are at least three stepping stones, right? So the aggressive non pharmaceutical interventions that we have right now, and p is epidemiology call them, these what you and I are doing right now, when you’re staying at home, away from your loved ones, with the sacrifices that that implies you’re doing a non pharmaceutical intervention. And it’s a really important one, because the only low hanging fruit that we have that doesn’t require science and technology, we can do it now and doesn’t require more innovation. Even there, though, you see immediately how innovation place right? So you see how in this talk about future certainly or time horizons went from strategic plans for 10 years to strategic plans for 10 weeks, right? So and even there, we’re getting them wrong. But we need rapidly solutions to making sure that people can have a job and keep working either from home or those need to be physically somewhere I mean, what is happening with that and lack of N 95 masks, all the thing hospitals, but also in the fields, where farmers are picking up the fruits and vegetables that were ordering online, we need to rapidly innovate to make that viable, we need to make a society, at least in the short term that is viable under these conditions, right? Just here in the United States, you you’ve seen the unemployment numbers, it’s 12 million people without a job like this. That’s not sustainable, right? So society will adapt. And in this case, government infrastructure and big corporations, foundations have to do as much as we can to make sure that in this short term, we have the tools that we need to do so and then their next steps, right, like regular testing public health breakthroughs, until we get to that vaccine. Absolutely. You’ve talked a little bit about things such as Uber, Airbnb, the evolution of all of these newer, and I’m literally looking at the book, all of these newer technological changes that have changed how business is conducted, what is your outlook on how do these things change society? How do they change our behavior? Is that something that you’re trying to tie in with your article as well? And yeah, as well, and you just, I mean, you just said, this is a stress test. And I think that’s a beautiful thing, a beautiful way of thinking about this, we probably should come out of this pandemic crisis with a new structure, part of the bureaucracy I talk about part of that is just new ways of doing business, almost with a switch. And so you can flip the switch and go into pandemic mode and not collapse society, the process, right, so there should be a way the same way. Every summer, we all migrate to beaches, and every winter we move into holiday season, every time that an outbreak in the heavily interconnected world that we have appears there should be a way hopefully, regionally and globally, but to be able to lock down that part of society and that lockdown doesn’t mean necessarily the destruction and obliteration of jobs, or companies, etc. Over instacart in America don’t have you have it in Canada, so all of the grocery shopping apps, they have become the lifeline of our society, right? So especially in urban environments, when we’re asking people to isolate them, these are the services that now we assumed are keeping our society alive. So it’s not only a stress test, it’s also an A B test. We have the 1918 namic as one example. And then we have the 2020 pandemic as another one. And one thing that has changed is that we have the internet and we have internet platforms on top of them. So I can assure you that after these jobs that are associated to activity that can be performed even without the colocation in an office space are going to be more coveted within your organization. He’d be more interested in a job like that, seeing what you’ve seen and being through what you’ve been through if you knew that a job can be performed from home, and it’s pandemic proof, let’s say or, or pandemic resistant, so that those changes, I think will be with us, even after we’re out of pandemic COVID-19. Hill. Yeah, I think from people perspective, people will find, first of all, I find there’s different types of people and their reactions are very different with respect to something like that, I’m seeing a lot of people who are doing nothing about the pandemic, they are, they’ve either been laid off, or their business as businesses have suffered, and they’re just waiting for things to open up, many of them will close the doors of their business forever. Have some of them are waiting for government aid. Like there’s a category of people who are unable to do anything about this at all, they can’t move. And it’s really unfortunate that it is the situation that they’re in, there are some who are trying to struggle who are trying to pivot or trying to find different means of doing things. And there’s some professions that have in job titles and jobs and roles that have really become busy doctors and nurses and frontline healthcare staff. And in one way, you know, when you stretch something, a balloon, or an elastic band just stretches things in a different way and puts tension and pressure in different places. That’s what’s happening. I think we’ve just been stretched like a string or a rubber band. And we’re trying to figure out where we are going to come back when this elastic band comes back again. But yeah, it’s I’ve spoken to literally 10s and hundreds of people I’m doing a few different things, live streams and conversations and calls is just completely different situation. Some places some markets are completely shut down, what have you seen in terms of shutdowns with respect to COVID-19, and it being maybe a new normal, as many people are seeing is this how we should live separate from each other? I don’t think that in the long term, if we’re talking more than two or three years, this will be the case this too shall pass. Right. So now, if for all of us who had the blessing of still knowing our meaning, or grandparents, many of them went through difficult things like that either a second world war, or my parents, my grandparents went through the Mexican Revolution that killed the big percentage of the population in Mexico. And you could see how even after decades of that their behaviors were adapted to that they would finish the food on their plate, they would know that not everything. And I think some of that will happen now. So I don’t think Americans will come back to what they were before. And that might be we are seeing more innovation in certain fields, companies that were reluctant to adapt the digital transformation strategies have done more in two weeks that they’ve done in 20 years before and businesses that were not the multi channel, for example, restaurants that were so successful that they wouldn’t even take takeout orders. So they are struggling and those who were already on the internet and take phone calls and delivered and were Luber eats only were more resilient. So one of the things that we’re learning is that multi channel matters, because one channel shuts down, you still have the orders to be able to keep functioning, continuity of operations, continuity of government, the government’s who are able to immediately jump to one SAP or assume with all its privacy flows that it might have, it’s been a lifeline for many specialty small governments that wouldn’t have the budget to immediately set up their own video servers on their own. So Cloud computing is showing us how much we can sustain operations even in a level of disruption like these one. And frankly, I mean, this is gonna make a big difference. My favorite restaurant, my favorite sushi restaurant doesn’t deliver on the internet, my second favorite DOS, guess which one has been taking all my money during this pandemic? So taste is just one factor. And in this case, companies that learn I think that they can succeed under extreme conditions, we’ll learn lessons that they can carry forward. That’s what bureaucracies do when they do it. Well. Absolutely. I want to read something from the book. This is part of your essay, and quote, the global society reacted with Future Shock or risk symptoms to this accelerated pace of technological change with what the media has now labeled as the tech lash. The tech lash is nothing other than a backlash against future shock. What exactly is this? What exactly is a tech lash? Yeah, so you might remember, right? So around 2018, right, we started to see these very big anti technology narrative or politics before right it had to do with the quantum analytic scale scandal for Facebook. But it also had to do with the issues of the lack of job security or quality of jobs around the gig economy or the platform based economy. gig economy is a pejorative term in itself. So when you start to see that probably the first 1015 years of the 21st century where time of all for Silicon Valley like companies and I’m using Silicon Valley here as an IBM not not as a place high tech companies that accelerate that can scale very rapidly. We know what companies were talking about by 2018. We were having what others are calling a tech lash, right? That a counter policy movement of people who felt that these companies have flown too close to the sun, that their ovaries was affecting us that they were changing society too soon. Right. So this is Alvin Toffler. One, one that their changes were so fast, they were moving fast and breaking things, and that we wanted to hit the brake and the way society hits the brake is through asking for regulation. It puts pressure on political entities. And we’ve seen this one, for example, in Germany or Singapore, where Uber is not allowed anymore to operate the way it wants to operate. And that tech lash was the story regarding technology for 2018. That story’s a little bit on the backburner right now, because suddenly, we need them. Right. And we need what they give us. We’ve seen the conversation, right, we see that some Amazon workers are asking, and probably the right for better protective equipment. And we’re seeing that instacart shoppers are being treated as heroes, because they’re the ones who are allowing urbanites to socially isolate. But I think that we have transitioned from thinking that this is bad as a element of the economy, to thinking of how do we make it better, but right now they have become essential workers. Right. So that’s a big change. Absolutely. Thank you, Rodrigo. I love it. Tell me a little bit about there’s so much going on. So I want to encapsulate our conversation into actionable points. For our listeners, whoever’s watching this video, hoping that they are able to create a change in their life business organization future because of our conversation, what would be maybe say the top three things that you would suggest anybody to do? What should they do about the filter to be bright, though, some of these are going to be trite, and they probably have heard them before, it’s just that the context has changed. One is gentleman psyche, right. So if you don’t like change, you’re going to like irrelevance even less. So right now we don’t have the luxury. And therefore, change is unavoidable. So if you can find a way of making this change work for you, this will matter. Secondly, and this is there are many people who have said this, but it also matters. Don’t let the crisis go to waste, right? This is a stress test. And sadly for you, you didn’t plan for it, and you didn’t want it, but you have it. And you’re seeing now where the failure points of your organization are located. Right. So this is an opportunity if you survive, and hopefully you will, if you can fix those failure points, you will come stronger out of this one. And third, remember what matters, right? At this point, this might be forcing us to reevaluate our loved ones or relationships. Also, those who have been in the startup world know that nine to five is a luxury we don’t have when you are building a startup, it’s okay. It’s a phase of your life. But at the end, the things that matter are the people you can hug and we’re missing them right now. Right? So So work balance matters to be successful. Absolutely. I completely agree. I always tell people that change will disrupt you interrupt you or help you grow. And it’s how we use the impact of change, because it’ll keep on happening. Different kinds of change will always happen in your life. Rodrigo, thank you so much for this amazing conversation. where can our viewers and listeners find out more about your work? So yeah, thank you so much. I’m on Twitter. I’m on LinkedIn, and also www Rodrigo Nieto gomez.com. It’s probably I should update it, because I haven’t been a while in the middle of these. But all of that is available. And of course I answer as much as I can to come in for through all the platforms already. Thank you so much, Rodrigo. We really appreciate your time. Thank you for being a contributor to aftershock. And aftershock is available on amazon.com. Thanks to our friend john Schroeder, who’s put it together and brought us all together under this one platform. Rodrigo. Have a safe time. I wish you and your family all the best. And we’ll definitely be in touch and connect soon. And I really appreciate it. Thank you so much to you and all your viewers. Thank you. Thank you. Hey, friend, this is Ian Khan. 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John Sanei Futures Strategist in conversation with Futurist Ian Khan

In this episode I interview John Sanei, fellow Futurist and one of the world’s best futures strategists and motivational speaker. John and I are also co-contributors to the book After Shock.

Bio

John Sanei comes alive at the intersection of human psychology and futurism, and uses his truly unique perspective to discover elegant ways for his global audience to build the clarity and courage needed to approach the future with confidence.

Not only is John Africa’s first Singularity University faculty member and a lecturer at Duke Corporate Education, he is also an Associate Partner at The Copenhagen Institute of Future Studies – the only person on the planet to hold these three positions.

His rare ability to combine his fascination with emerging technology and its impact on society with a clear understanding of the way memories and stories influence our reality has seen him share the stage with several world-renowned speakers, including Simon Sinek, Yuval Harari, Nassim Taleb and Robin Sharma, amongst many others.

John expresses himself through regular columns, radio, TV and podcast appearances – he also hosts The Expansive podcast – but is best known as a prolific author and dynamic speaker on technology, quantum- and neuroscience, and business strategy.

He has 4 best-sellers to his name, and he was also the only African invited to contribute to After Shock, a collection by the world’s 100 most prominent futurists, and a contributor to 90 Rules for Entrepreneurs: How to Hustle Your Way to a Business That Works, and The Book Every Business Owner Must Read.

John’s passion for writing and personal development also prompted him to create Future Self Academy, an online platform that helps people to enrich their perspectives by taking author-led online courses based on their favourite books.

Visit John at https://johnsanei.com/​

About After Shock

The world’s foremost futurists reflect on 50 years of Future Shock—and look ahead to the next 50

Contributors include:

Alan Kay
Aaron Frank
Adrienne Mayor
Alexander Mankowsky
Alexandra Ivanovitch
Alisha Bhagat
Amy Zalman
Anders Sorman-Nilsson
Andra Keay
Andrew Curry
Andy Hines
Anita Sengupta
Anne Lise Kjaer
Aris Persidis
Aubrey de Grey
Barry O’Reilly
Barry Vacker
Bill Davidow
Bill Diamond
Bryan Alexander
Byron Reese
Carlos Osorio
Carver Mead
Cat Tully
Cindy Frewen
Clem Bezold
Daniel Burrus
Daniel Levine
David Brin
David Guston
David Krakauer
David J. Staley
David Weinberger
Deb Westphal
Diane M. Francis
Donna Dupont
Eleanor “Nell” Watson
Eric Daimler
Erica Bol
Erik Qualman
Fotis Sotiropoulos
George Gilder
Grady Booch
Gray Scott
Hannes Sjoblad
Harish Natarajan
Hazel Henderson
Helen Messier
Ian Khan
Ignacio Pena
Jack Uldrich
James Canton
Jane McGonigal
Jason Jackson
Jason Schenker
Jay Gambetta
Jeff Eisenach
Jeffrey C. Bauer
Jerome Glenn
Jerry Fishenden
Joe Dispenza
Joe Tankersley
Joel Garreau
John L. Petersen
John M. Smart
John Sack
John Sanei
John Schroeter
Jonathan Venn
José Morey
Kaitlyn Sadtler
Kirk Borne
Klee Irwin
Kris Østergaard
Lisa Bodell
Maciej Kranz
Martin Guigui
Martin Rees
Maggie Greyson
Michael Tomczyk
Michel Laberge
Mick Ebeling
Moon Ribas
Naveen Jain
Neil Jacobstein
Newt Gingrich
Patricia Lustig & Gill Ringland
Paul Saffo
Paul Stimers
Po Bronson & Arvind Gupta
Ray Kurzweil
Rebecca Costa
Richard Browning
Richard Slaughter
Richard Watson
Richard Yonck
Rodrigo Nieto Gómez
Rohit Bhargava
Ross Dawson
Ruth Miller
Sanjiv Chopra & Pankaj K Vij
Sohail Inayatullah
Sridhar Mahadevan
Stan Rosen
Stephanie Mehta
Steve Waite
Tanya Accone
Terrence (Terry) Sejnowski
Teun Koetsier
Theodore Jay Gordon
Thomas Frey
Timothy Chou
Vikram Mansharamani
Wolfgang Fengler
Zoltan Istvan

Publication Details
ISBN Print: 978-0-9997364-4-9
ISBN eBook: 978-0-9997364-5-6

Full Transcript : Hi friends, you’re listening to the Ian Khan show and this is an aftershock special episode. I’m speaking with a co contributor to the recent book aftershock. And it’s all about the future. It’s all about what else is there to come. Today I’m speaking with John Sanei, who is an author, speaker and trend specialists who’s fascinated with what it takes to activate the foresight needed to create an abundant future. JOHN is a writer. He’s an author, and really well known across futurist circles. Let’s speak with john, welcome to the show. I have with me today one of the most renowned future as they have been falling for a long time. And here we are part of Aftershock that was put together by a friend john shorter. I have with me today, john sanei, all the way from South Africa.

JOHN, welcome to the show. How are you? Wonderful, man, thank you so much for having me on. So we all undoubtedly are stuck right now, not just travel. That’s a small part of what happens in everyday life, but in expressing ourselves and doing what we do best. And that’s helping other people understanding the future helped create the possibilities. How’s life for you in COVID-19? How has 2020 been for you, and then we’ll talk about aftershock. Well, how’s 2020 be? Well, I gotta be honest, like everybody else, total surprise, if anything else. But once the dust settled from the shock of what is going on around us, and for the first time as humanity experiencing anything like this, I have found the space to be my most creative yet, I’ve had time to think like never before, I’m very fortunate to be able to have assessments around money and food and environment to keep me in a good state of mind, but really just started writing really fascinated with how things are changing how much more we can help people in a new world, because with any sort of crisis of this magnitude is always a renaissance that comes out of it and to be part of the Renaissance and help as many organizations to restructure, but what’s coming. So I’ve had, I’ve had a fascinating time researching and watching and learning a whole bunch of new things, because I’m sure you’ll agree that much of the work that we did before COVID-19 has become kind of irrelevant, because everything now has to come with a perspective of what COVID-19 has bought us as humanity. Absolutely. And let me tell you, I really find COVID-19 to be a big refresh. It’s like, you know, you press the press those refresh buttons and everything kind of goes back to a different normal that we didn’t know, I kind of agree with the fact that everybody’s calling this the new normal. I don’t feel this as a new normal because we’re in a state of chaos and chaos never stays forever, traditionally, and we haven’t seen it but I think we’re just going through a transition. It’s it’s a leveler. It’s a wake up call. It’s all those things that help us think more. Oh, you know, 50 years ago, Alvin Toffler wrote Future Shock and I have it somewhere near right behind me. And then our friend john Schroeder came along and said, hey, let’s put together another book called aftershock, which is 50 years after Toffler wrote his book, he talked about the future 50 years ago. I mean, it seems like a light year ago right now, uh, given how that progressed in the last 1015 years. And Toffler wrote about many different things. He didn’t write about pandemics a lot, but change, change, change is happening. And that’s what’s happening. Right, you practice. Change your I’ve read your essay in here as well. It’s amazing. I really love the insights that you shared. Tell me a little bit about how did you end up you know where you are today? And what was your journey, if you will over the last couple of few decades? Sure. Great question. I think I’ve always been an early adopter, I’ve always been able to see a trend just before somebody else was that was just the way I’m inclined, I’m always looking for the fresh the new. And so that was very easy for me, that part of it. And so I could connect these sort of invisible dots that other people couldn’t. And in my in my book foresight, I talk about the fact that interior designers have a skill set that can connect looks and feels to make a place look like a home, I don’t have that skill. And a great hairdresser can look at your face and say look, the best haircut for you would be I don’t have that skill either. But my skill is this early adoption skill that I’ve just always had. And I did really well with it until I was about 28 years old because I utilized the skill to invest and become an entrepreneur and opened up many businesses and became very successful. But I fell into the trap of not changing my world and staying constant with what I was doing. And in that process, lost track of the market and went bankrupt. And so I moved from this early adoption personality to one that was just staying safe because I started making money and I didn’t want to rock the boat too much. And now we’re talking back in 2007 2008 2009 somewhere around there. And then when I went through my bankruptcy at around 30 years old, I became really depressed and it depressions of weird thing because you don’t realize you’re often depressed because it happens so slowly. And what happens is that your group of friends around you acts like you do you shame and blame everything around you don’t really take responsibility and that’s kind of what depression is. And so I find myself circling this. I don’t know this like shoot of feeling bad for myself and being angry for what had happened. You can imagine a 30 year old guy whose life is built on his persona in businesses. Cause and that gets taken away. Who are you? I mean, you really just nobody. And you have to reinvent. And so I went on a very clear path of self discovery and that process, because I’m just the type of guy that I am, I’m incredibly ambitious and driven. And so I really dive deep into self development and came out of it on the other side with a clear understanding of victim Victor money consciousness, self value, projection, the five laws of creating anything you want from intention setting to allowance to law of attraction, so and then I started diving deep into neuroscience, because I wanted to understand how it could even get more powerful as a beam of creation. And what started happening is I realized that if I combine human psychology, neuroscience and the future, you start getting a really beautiful mix. Because what I think what usually happens is we tell people about the future, but they scared of it. And they’re fearful. And the reason that is, is that they stuck in the old psychology, they stuck in their memories of their past successes. And so if you understand neuroscience, we can untangle your past in order to create a real clean slate to create into the future with you combine that with categorizing, and conceptualizing the future in a cool way. People then develop trust, they develop clarity, and they make decisions now with much more ease rather than being stuck in paralysis of analysis. Yeah, so rightly said, I love how you put it together. You know, it’s really like, you know, you give somebody a box of Lego pieces, and you tell them go and create what you want to create. And I face this many times when people ask you to face this many times as well. But when people ask you with that tone of voice, so what does a futurist do, and they’re expecting that you’re going to say, Well, I look into my crystal ball every night, and then the nonprofit, but it’s not about that, it’s about being able to tick that box of Legos and saying, well, this, these are the possibilities. And there could be many possibilities, you can build so many different things. I really believe that people have access to those Lego blocks of their life, and they know their blocks more than anybody else. So well, but they don’t use it, they just feel confused that, hey, I can do nothing with these blocks, because I don’t know what to do with them. And that’s what you see, you know, that lack of clarity means that I’m so stuck in my past that cannot identify with a new version of myself and my new capabilities. And so what happens is they Lego boxes in their memories that have been created a Lego box of the future, so they don’t have clarity of what the new GPS coordinates are. And I often talk to companies and personal people in companies and say, Look, instead of doing a to b, a to do list created to be list, who do you want to be? How do you want to show up? And what sort of world do you want to be? And if you don’t have those GPS coordinates, how you know, you ever arrived, I made a video a little while back, and I said, why is it that most people can describe their next holiday in more detail than they can describe the future that want to live? And so like, if you don’t have that clarity, what do you think is going to happen? You’re going to be stuck in your past. And so yes, that’s my unique flavoring. Like if you had to think about a chef, but like Indian and Persian and Argentinian food that I’m putting together. And I guess the way I tell my stories and the way I do that, as I like to combine those two, you know, for people to take responsibility for the creation of the future rather than avoided. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Now you’ve written quite a few books, you’re obsessed with writing you love writing, which is amazing. So we’ll talk about your some of your upcoming books. But I want to read something that you’ve written in, in aftershock. And this is about really adding to what you’re just saying. So you know, the quote is, hindsight is useful when you’re looking for patterns. But a familiar past is only ever going to give you predictable ideas. And that’s of no real use in our unreasonable, unfamiliar future. And that’s what you’re exactly talking about is, you know, using the past hindsight foresight, you’ve written about the hindsight foresight, help us understand what these are, what is hindsight, what is foresight, I decided to describe foresight differently in our perspective. And what we have as human beings is four perspectives. We have hindsight, plain sight, insight, and foresight. And so people move between these different sites based on different aspects of their lives. So hindsight is obviously somebody who’s more focused on who they were than who they need to become. There’s a great quote from Dr. Joe dispenza, is also in the book. He says, Are you more focused on your memories of your past? Or are you more focused on the future that you want to live and most people are stuck in the hindsight and business owners are doing what they used to do just a bit more efficiently. And that’s not really what you need, right? So they can’t break away from that, because not even aware they’re doing then you get plain sight and people that live in plain sight are the ones that are stuck into Newtonian science from last century. And Newtonian science is one principle, that reality is objective. And outside of you, quantum science is not proving the exact opposite. It says that reality is subjective, and it’s inside of you. And people that suffer from Plain Sight are the cynics. They don’t believe there’s a better future because of their own old patterning, and they don’t want to have the opportunity to take responsibility to want to project in the new quantum science research that’s been proven. And then you get insights. And I think the biggest problem we have in the world today is people with insight and what insight is people with incredible levels of knowledge clever people that are focused on being experts at yesterday. rules. And if you look at the rules and the people that run the world today, what are they they’ve been trained in great universities and worked in corporate since the 80s. They in their 60s and 70s. And they’re excellent at the rules of yesterday. So they have incredible left brain power. But they’re not adaptable. Because people that live in the expert world is so experts in what they do, they can’t be adaptable. It’s focused on what they’ve known. And so what you get is you get foresight, which gives you this ability to be adaptable, flexible, and optimistic. And the two characteristics that I found through interviewing people around the world was they were one curious and two wise curiosity means a follow up shines brightest for me, what makes me most excited, what gives me access to most of my energy, what makes time disappear, what wisdom is, is healing your past. So you’re not expecting and channeling different stain patterns over and over and over in your life, where you focus on accomplishment, not purpose. And so many people are accomplished, but never reached their purpose. So they’re miserable in their high paying jobs with their fancy cars. So what you want for the human of the future is somebody with foresight, adaptability, and flexibility that’s curious and wise. And in this way, you can now be the superhero of the future, because now you’re adaptable naturally, and you become highly specialized in your skill because you love it. And so I use myself as an example. You know, I’ve never studied anything that I’m teaching. This is all self taught, all based on my own fascination. I in fact, never even went to university and I lectured universities based on my own curiosity and wisdom. Incredible. You’ve written in the book in aftershock as well. And you mentioned Alan Watts, who said, it’s, you know, a person who’s wise always unlearned, you’ve got to be able to uninjured. And when the glass is full, I mean, what do you put in it? people’s minds are so full of news media, tick tock YouTube videos. And so how do you how do you, you know, expect the world around you to be different when you’re not putting in that effort that inputs? I think it’s really important that people procreate, they actually take action towards building this better tomorrow that they want and that they’re envious off, whether it’s money, it’s fame, it’s health, it’s whatever, whatever. You just have a direction. Yeah, it’s, yeah, but remember, compound interest is created from helping you just helping yourself through the process. It doesn’t have any compound interest, because it’s just you, me, me, me, me, me, me. Yeah. And so I think really, the future is about this collaborative pneus. Instead of competition, we should be cooperating, we have a very intelligent consumer and the more intelligent he or she becomes, the better solutions, we need to have a better solutions abroad through cooperation or competition. So I really think that this COVID reset is a wonderful opportunity for us to develop a new way for us to interact because we’ve got an abundance of a lot of things in the world. And I’m sure you know, Jeremy Rifkin, his work around the zero marginal cost society where many things become free eventually. So now that we’ve got this abundance, how do we restructure, and that’s what fascinates me most is that really hard to collectively dream about what we can create, I’ve seen some really nice and progressive governments, especially in the UAE, progressive, because they do a lot of things that are different. And I was part of an exercise with one of the departments or agencies to understand the rule of transportation by 2017, to 070. And that’s the centennial anniversary of the UAE. And so, you know, we finished that exercise, and somebody else was running it as part of it, though. And it’s really nice to see that governments are thinking 5060 100 years from now, what are the possibilities, they’re not going out and building that right, the second, but you at least got to have an idea of where you’re headed, why you’re headed that way, how you’re headed that way. And then you can make decisions based on that know, both from an individual perspective, as well as from an organizational perspective, it’s important to have a clear direction on where you’re going. That’s what I wanted to say, what were you gonna look at one of the great things about Dubai and why I decided to live there was that city doesn’t suffer from any legacy thinking. It’s not London, it’s not New York, it’s not any of these cities that are so caught up in their past successes. And you know, in London, it’s like, No, son, that’s always how it’s been done. We’re not going to change anything here. And you get that overtone that sets the tone of what’s expected in that city. And Dubai has no past, it is starting on a clean slate. And that’s why I love it so much. There’s an energy of anything is possible, then it’s a wonderful place to live. And for the moment, it’s a hub that connects me to everywhere else. But let’s see how everything actually resets off the COVID and see what happens after that and what sort of travel restrictions we’ll have. Yeah, I mean, personally, I’m just expecting maybe a couple of months off, complete lockdown, and hopefully things will will get start getting better. Let’s talk about your books, your writing a lot. As I said before, you mentioned before we got started, tell me a little bit about your journey as a writer and helping others understand the future, especially through your new series that’s coming out. Well, thanks so much. You know, I failed school. I wasn’t really good at school and English was one of the worst subjects. And what I started to realize is I became so impassioned and so enthralled what I could when I was researching and I was in automatic risk funds and almost was, you know, like feng shui as a great principle. It says, in order to bring anything new into your life, you need to get rid of the old. And it was almost like I had this massive brain release after writing my first book. And what it did was it got me ready for more information, it almost like was such a download of information that was sitting inside my head for so long. And so I decided to make one of my presentations into a book. And that’s how the journey began. And I work with a copywriter, because I’ve got a lot of ideas going on and a whole lot of different subjects. So I have a thinking partner, that is a much better writer than me. And so we share and talk and share and talk continuously. And I’m writing and voice noting, and then it comes into a book format, and we chisel and chisel and chisel away. And then it becomes a book and also every book that I’ve written, and I’ve written three books in the last three years. And what I’ve decided to do is write a book a year, because what it does, it forces me to become a researcher and really fascinated at something because the best way to learn something is to teach it. And when I put myself under that sort of pressure, I really get new information, new stories and new uptake on my brand and what I’m thinking about the audience. So what I was doing before COVID-19 was writing my fourth book, and unfortunately, COVID-19 happened. Fortunately, it happened. And I decided that my fourth book wasn’t that relevant because not everything needs to be framed at COVID-19. And when I settled into my parents farm and took a couple of days to breathe, I realized this urge to want to get something out was really strong inside me. So I started writing a trilogy. And the reason I’ve decided to write a trilogy of ebooks, and again, why I’ve decided to write an E book is because I think things are changing at such a rapid pace, who’s got time to write a 30 40,000 page, I mean, 30 40,000 word book right now and things are changing, waiting for it to print, etc, etc. So I decided to write future now future how and future next and future now is about the mental state that we need to have in the now to develop the future. Future. How is about the new economic system that I’m suggesting that I’m starting to see, and many other sort of people around the world are talking about a new economic system, a new capital, and the 14th century saw the devastation of the black plague. And after the black plague, it triggered the end of feudalism. And feudalism, then by it ending started the Italian Renaissance. So I think we have a perfect situation to reset our economic system. And then future next will be the next trends that I’ll be tracking, which are changing minute by minute. So we know we in the process of writing those three at the moment. Excellent. I love it. JOHN, you’ve got so many different ideas. You’ve worked with so many organizations, you will have so many organizations. And of course in addition to what you’ve done already aftershock with joins you and me together and 50 other Aha, I think all of us together into creating a body of work that will live for a long, long time. And the more we are scientists, many of them are not even into foresight, but they do things that are really radical. And it’s really nice to be in a group of people who do this because it keeps us stimulated is a huge privilege. For me, I’ve got to be honest, you know, I must have taught guides, I see people like you and doctors that are like, wow, I’m so like chuffed to the gentleman. So it’s really great for me. It’s my honor, I am honestly humbled at every conversation that I have, as part of my podcast, I want you to give our viewers the formula, the formula that you think is going to help them succeed, help them unlock their potential have a better financial life, health, wealth, wellness, whether it’s reading a book a week, what like what are the subtle things people can do to create change, like literally the action points of the habits that they should build? What’s your take on it? How do you think people can change their tomorrow? Look, our state is who we are how we perceive and project into reality is actually who we are. We like to think we somebody else. But if you know we’re not coming at the day with the right states, we just aren’t ourselves to our full potential. So the way I go about it is I break my life down in emotional, physical and mental. And throughout the day, I have two meditation pitstops one when I wake up in the morning, and one before I go to sleep, it’s killed my social life. But that’s a whole other story. It’s also I also journal quite extensively. And that takes care of my emotional, emotional state, and I have a coach and then when it gets to mental states, I break up my day into what am I learning? How am I growing? And when am I chilling, so that I have a very clear distinction between three aspects of my day. And that keeps me active. And ultimately, and finally physical. I do 220 minute workouts a day because I really want to be able to have the most focus and the most sort of flexibility in the way I think. So all of that together. The most important thing I think we need to do is become curious about why we here on earth. And as Mark Twain said, the two most important days of your life or when you’re born and when you find out why figure out why you’re here, get busy getting curious with that topic, add value to the world and watch your life become magical because when you become unique and authentic in what you do, the energy you have access to is endless. your creativity is endless. And all of a sudden you become a specialist in what you do just based on your fascination with the sun. People pay for you to travel around the world and tell them stories. I mean, what sort of life are we living? It’s a fascinating world that people get paid to do that. And lucky as that we do, but based on curiosity and making sure that your emotional, physical and mental state are focused, absolutely, I want to make it clear to everybody that it’s a lot of work to, to do that initially, when you’re even getting started, it looks impossible. Like when you tell people to do these things, it just seems like so much to do that, oh, I don’t want to do that. It seems like so much work. And I don’t want to read and I don’t want to put I don’t want to start journaling. But once you overcome that initial hump, you’re over the, you know, the first speed bump, then things become smoother, you get into a free flow state, it becomes a part of your life. And that’s why people like yourself, and many other you and me and all of us, we travel a lot, but then it’s part of our life, and it becomes the new normal for us, or we speak at events or where you’re writing a book, The first book is the most toughest, it’s it’s just impossible. First Book, and then the second one is your third one, it becomes a little bit more easy. Yeah, I think what happens is that your discipline is created. Once you’ve decided who you want to be. If you haven’t decided who you want to be, then you’ll always be lazy, you always need motivation. You always snooze your alarm clock. But once you’ve decided who you want to be, and you work backwards from that, you up five minutes before your long podcast, you’d look forward to your journal, you look forward to your meditation, because you’ve got a long term view of what you’re trying to achieve. And again, it becomes clear that the more clarity you have, or who you want to be, it becomes easier. So whether you’re a futurist or a teacher, or a physical fitness person, just is a human thing that’s required, you know, and so this is something I take my clients through a lot, you know, it’s like the emotional perspective, as well as the future sort of categorization and context. Yeah, absolutely. I put a lot of emphasis on actually doing the thing that will take you forward execution of your ideas, and you’re putting the pen to paper when it’s writing the book. And I think is just one point that is so undermined and people don’t people think and they dream and they believe and they want all these things, but they don’t actually, you’ve got to act, you know, stumbling ball fail forward, Les Brown, and so many other people just say just feel free, just do the thing that you need to do. Tell us a little bit about one final thing. Where can people find you? Where can they look up your work? Where Where can they buy your books, or have access to them? Do you have a mailing list, people can sign up towards something? Yeah, thank you so much. Out of the seven and a half billion people in the world. I am the only johnsonii I mean, what are the chances of that? And so I’m the only johnsonii and Google and on Facebook and on LinkedIn, it’s Joe HN, sh and Ei and I’m constantly sharing information that I’m researching. I find it solidifies better into my mind when I make a vlog about it or blog about it. So y’all please follow me on any of those my books are available on Audible on Amazon on Kindle is a mailing list, you can join all of the above just look forward to sharing as much as I can and adding as much value as possible already. Thank you so much on Sunday. Thank you so much for being part of the show. And aftershock aftershock is available on Amazon, as far as I know, and please grab a copy of this. Everybody was watching this. It’s really an incredible read. And you can also read about what john thinks and how he thinks right here in this book. Thank you so much, john, you take care and we’ll talk again. Thank you, john. Thank you. Hey, friend, this is Ian Khan. If you liked what you saw in my video, then please subscribe to my YouTube channel and be inspired every single day with innovative content that keeps you fresh, updated and ready for the future. For more information. Also visit my website at Ian khan.com

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Deborah Westphal is on the Ian Khan show. It’s such a pleasure to speak to someone who has worked so closely with Alvin Toffler and Toffler Assocates. This episode is a special After Shock episode and Deborah’s insights have been so exciting.

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Deborah Westphal is a passionate humanist who has guided our era’s top minds and leaders to challenge biases, ignite ideas, and build connections and resilience for a secure and sound future.

Her career spans more than 30 years, government agencies and Fortune 100 companies, and virtually every continent. Alvin Toffler tapped her as one of the founding members of his eponymous consulting firm. Through her work, she has guided notable organizations including Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Marriott, U.S. Air Force, Baxter International, Bayer, Heinz, Microsoft, Koppers, PPG, DARPA, National Security Agency, Loral Space Systems, NASA, Qwest, Verizon, and Westinghouse.

Deborah’s empathetic and thought-provoking style helps readers spot patterns that signify future risks and opportunities. She’s a sought-after speaker and writer who provided the Foreword to After Shock.

Deborah is a world traveler who enjoys time with her son and running in the mountains. Find her at deborahwestphal.com.

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Vikram Mansharamani is on the Ian Khan show. I am very excited to have Vikram on the show where he shared some key insights and future related ideas.

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Dr. Vikram Mansharamani is a global trend-watcher who shows people how to anticipate the future, manage risk, and spot opportunities. He is the author of the recently-released THINK FOR YOURSELF: Restoring Common Sense in an Age of Experts and Artificial Intelligence and BOOMBUSTOLOGY: Spotting Financial Bubbles Before They Burst. He has been a frequent commentator on issues driving disruption in the global business environment. Vikram’s ideas and writings have also appeared in Bloomberg, Fortune, Forbes, The New York Times and a long list of other publications. Linkedin twice listed him as their #1 Top Voice for Money, Finance and Global Economics and Worth has profiled him as one of the 100 most powerful people in global finance. Millions of readers have enjoyed his unique multi-lens approach to connecting seemingly irrelevant dots.

Vikram is currently a lecturer at Harvard University, where he teaches students to use multiple perspectives in making tough decisions. Previously, he was a Lecturer at Yale University. In addition to teaching, he also advises several Fortune 500 CEOs to help them navigate the radical uncertainty in today’s business and regulatory environment. He has a PhD and two Masters degrees from MIT and a Bachelors degree from Yale University, where he was elected to Phi Beta Kappa. Vikram lives in Lexington, MA with his wife, daughter, son, golden-retriever, and two cats, one of which he believes may be clairvoyant.

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About Sohail Inayatullah Professor Sohail Inayatullah

/sə’heɪl ɪnaɪʌ’tʊla/, a political scientist, is Professor at Tamkang University, Taipei (Graduate Institute of Futures Studies) and Associate, Melbourne Business School, The University of Melbourne. From 2001-2020, he was Adjunct Professor from the University of the Sunshine Coast, Australia. From 2011-2014, he was Adjunct Professor at the Centre for policing, counter-terrorism and intelligence, Macquarie University, Sydney. In 1999, he was the UNESCO Chair in European Studies at the University of Trier, Germany.

In 2016, Professor Inayatullah was awarded the first UNESCO Chair in Futures Studies. In 2010, he was awarded the Laurel award for all-time best futurist by the Shaping Tomorrow Foresight Network. In March 2011, he was awarded an honorary doctorate by Universiti Sains Malaysia, Penang. He received his doctorate from the University of Hawaii in 1990. Inayatullah has lived in Islamabad, Pakistan; Bloomington, Indiana; Flushing, New York; Geneva, Switzerland; Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia; Honolulu, Hawaii; and Brisbane and Mooloolaba, Australia. Inayatullah is the Editor-in-Chief of the Journal of Futures Studies and on the editorial boards of Futures, Prout Journal, East West Affairs, World Future Review, and Foresight.

He has written more than 350 journal articles, book chapters, encyclopedia entries and magazine editorials. His articles have been translated into a variety of languages, including Catalan, Spanish, Urdu, Hindi, Bengali, Italian, Japanese, Russian, Indonesian, Farsi, Arabic, and Mandarin.

Inayatullah has also written and co-edited twenty-two books/cdroms, including: What Works: Case Studies in the Practice of Foresight; CLA 2.0: Transformative Research in Theory and Practice (2015); Questioning the Future: Methods and Tools for Organizational and Societal Transformation (2007); and, Macrohistory and Macrohistorians: Perspectives on Individual, Social, and Civilizational Change (1997).

His latest (2018) book is Asia 2038: Ten Disruptions That Change Everything. Visit Sohail at https://www.metafuture.org

Full Transcript : Hello friends and welcome to the Ian Khan show. You’re watching an aftershock special episode today I’m interviewing Richard browning, who is the founder and chief test pilot off gravity industries launched in March 2017. His dream behind gravity industries was to reimagining of human flight and the elegant partnership between the mind body machine and exploiting bleeding edge technology.

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Let’s hear from Richard browning. Richard, welcome to the Ian Khan show. I am so excited to have you here. And you’re one of the trailblazers today a lot to talk about. Tell me what’s going on right behind you what’s happening right now? Yes, very topical. So my wife and I, we are building these, they are virus masks. So in other words, they’re sort of the personal protective equipment masks. There you go perfectly demonstrated. And we are 3d printing the structure, the supporting structure in that printer there. And then there’s a bit of a manual process of punching the holes and constructing them. So yes, on a bank holiday Friday afternoon, we are not slowing down in our production of the things. I love activity. Oh my god, I love it. And I love this is a very environmental interview, you’re in your environment, you’re doing the thing that you do. And that makes it so much more interesting. Now you started your career. Let’s talk a little bit about your early career. You started as an oil trader, you worked in the oil and gas industry for about 1516 years. It’s a very different industry. But I’m guessing inside You were always who you are right now. Correct? Um, yeah, I think so. I think yeah, I mean, in summary, my career in the industry in the industry with some What if I’m really honest, driven by, I suppose the opportunity to build a financial safety net, and I suppose build enough of a cushion really, in hindsight to then go after more of my passions later in life. My childhood was an interesting journey. And it led me to, I suppose, a highly value building that security safety net that a career like that would do it, what I’ve gone on to do with gravity is I guess, a lot closer to my heart in terms of going on that journey of building, making, creating and taking on an unusual, barely possible challenge, and hopefully dragging it over the line. I love that process, despite the fact that most of the time you fail. Yeah. So yeah, it’s all about building that safety net. Really, in hindsight, not that I really thought about it at the time. Yeah, well, now with gravity, you’re doing something really incredible. It’s just it’s just so different. It’s just so incredible. You it’s a very innovative thing. You’re breaking boundaries of thought of perception. This is somewhat you know, what happened in the first flight ever, that we had this huge mental block that it couldn’t be done. And then human flight took over? The first flight took a close the process of kind of going through those initial phases of failure, which I’m sure you went through, tell us a little bit about your journey of starting off with the idea of gravity, and then doing those tests where you failed. Yeah, so the inspiration was from a number of different sources, really, one of them was from my time in the British Royal Marines reserve, UK division of the military that called the Royal Marines. And there’s quite stringent physical mental tests to get through that sort of same flavor as the navy seal and a process. And that taught me a lot about human capability. So the whole process of seeing a challenge mental or physical, or both physical challenge, and then believing that you can overcome those obstacles and realizing that the human brain and body is an amazing machine that can be adapted to fulfill quite a ridiculous range of often quite challenging tasks, if you really, you know, focus on it. And I took that as I suppose past the inspiration. The other part came from my childhood that when I grew up, I used to go fly model gliders with my late father, he was an aeronautical engineer, and most of my family from the world of aviation, and actually helicopters as well. And I suppose I sort of married those two things together and came up with this hypothesis that I wonder if you could employ the human brain from a balance of control point of view and the body from a strength point of view and tackle the challenge of human flight in an entirely different, seemingly illogical, crazy way. And genuinely for no reason other than the joy of the challenge. I just thought, wouldn’t it be kind of neat, if you could, instead of leaning on to this desk here, you can’t see I’m leaning on this desk, they’re feeling the support the desk provides my hands, if you swap that out for the momentary support that a former propulsion from a jet engine or a propeller of some kind will give you then I knew from my training that I could support my bodyweight in a variety of different kind of gymnastic positions. So well, doesn’t that mean, I can then kind of support myself as I lift off the ground. And just for the pure joy, the challenge, how far can you go with that concept? And that was really it. You know, I’m just trying to do a couple of things by asking you these questions. One is really a break. The idea that sometimes we just cannot do things in today’s time where COVID-19 is out there are just facing an unprecedented kind of a change that we’re dealing with. And I think life and success and breaking through something, a barrier is all about overcoming that fear of change or coming through it or somehow surpassing it and learning from experiences you’re talking about is also dealing with a lot of change, because you’ve constantly got it reiterated. So that was your initial journey, starting off with the idea of the concept and then bringing this to fruition. I know you’re doing a lot of test flights. I’ve seen you at a few expos, you’ve done a lot of face to face interactions with people where they’re actually able to see you I saw you flying off a ship somewhere as Well, in the middle of the ocean by belief, are you going to a phase of helping people understand this as a reality right now? Where are you where you want to be where you want to be? I mean, what what ended up happening we after back in 2016, when I about eight months went from the idea to actually first flying this, I got a phone call, when we then launched, the company came up with the name, gravity, the brand gravity as a sort of package within within which to sort of share this with the world. Because a few people have come to see it, it kind of lost their minds more than I’d imagined. And I thought, well, let’s just experiment with sharing this with the world and just throw it out there and see what happens. And we launched it with Red Bull and Wyatt, both of those brands were very valuable in terms of propelling us in the desired direction. And within a week, I got a phone call from Chris Anderson from Ted, who said, Can you come and do Ted 2017 in Vancouver? And could I fly there, bearing in mind, I’d not even flown outside of the farm yard test zone we’d been using, I still said yes. And thought, gosh, that’s a great privilege. I’ve been a huge admirer of TED talks for years. And on the way there, I stopped off in San Francisco to accept an invitation from Adam and Tim Draper, who I didn’t really know who they were at the time did a demonstration in their VC carpark the boost VC carpark. In fact, I’m wearing one of Adam’s old t shirts, as opposed to be seen as it happens and landed the very first demo, you know, anywhere I packed it all into to check in suitcases to take this thing the other side of the world from the UK and Tim and Adam lost their minds and wrote me a $640,000 deal on $100 bill that’s pinned to my lab wall back over there. And that was the beginning of the journey that said, Okay, this is starting to have impact. And then a week later did Ted and did a talk there on the same day as Elon Musk, and hope and they did a demonstration in front of everybody, including Richard Branson, and that kind of crowd and yeah, it’ll work. Adam Savage was my ground crew, impromptu ground crew on the day, it was just as ridiculous fairy tale, really. And then since then, we’ve leveraged events quite significantly. So we’ve now done 103 separate events in 30 countries. In fact, if I just swivel my camera slightly, so those are some of the lanyards out there that I can see that we’ve ended up collecting, and they’ve been a gift really, because you know, to get up to five TED Talks now, and all these events all over the world, including a dozen different military events flying around aircraft carriers, and the kind of things you’d never imagine we get asked to do. The benefit of all of these has been to be able to battle test the equipment in front of different audiences in different environments, at different altitudes in different locations. You name a desert, or a sea or city or, you know, I mean, when I say altitude, I mean, like Johannesburg, and the mountains in Arizona, both of them are about 6000 feet, and we float in there, which has a major effect on the gas turbine. So we flown in all sorts of different locations. And in front of live audiences often quite, you know, high end, folks, we’ve flown from Mark Zuckerberg or Elon Musk, and Jeff Bezos as well. So in fact, I actually have to pause on that one. That’s one of the one of the victims of the virus that was an event we were supposed to be doing that’s now on pause that will come back again live, but that kind of caliber of people have seen me fly and then you know, and also got equally excited. So what an amazing opportunity to kind of poll people’s opinion that when you bring something so new to them, what’s the first thing that springs their mind? Are they excited? They you know, do they want to buy one? Do they want to have a go at training to learn to do it? Do they want to go and watch a race series with these things? I mean, all of those are the things we’re getting on and doing. And also most of these events have paid us a lot of money. So we’ve generated all our own revenue since that first drapery event, and it’s all gone plowed back into the r&d. And we got a decent team of people and built that major, you know, momentum and patented it all. And yeah, it’s been quite an unusual last three years since we launched. That’s incredible. It’s such an incredible journey. And I’m glad that it’s, you know, you’re exposing everybody’s being exposed to this radical idea of of just taken off and flying and imagining what to do with it. Now in terms of an organizational structure, you know, we see you flying with the suit, Richard has the suit on he’s flying up in the air, what is the team that works with you? How many people work on this every day? Like how do things work, I’m trying to help. I’m trying to help our audiences understand there’s a structure behind things, you know, you’ve got to be able to take deliberate structural steps in order to create a business to be successful to do whatever give us an idea, whatever you can share with respect to what kind of a team backs you up and doing this. Maybe it was a fairly solo journey when I first developed this, but then very quickly, I’ve collected a wonderful bunch of people around me which are in their own ways in IE all of their specialism is vastly better than me, which is exactly how it should be very much enjoy that support. So I have gone to the engineering is a couple of relatively recent graduates in their mid 20s. They’ve been out of academia now for two, three years, but they are complete Mavericks in the sense that they can turn their hands to anything but technically and academically, they’re excellent but also they’re the kind of people that you know, you get a tire blowout on the way to an event and they will work out how you can improvise, you know to solve it when you realize the jack is missing from our fairly old event vehicle for instance, or we’re in the mountains of Arizona for the GoPro shoot I mentioned Arizona already. We’re wondering why even the lightest of the three of us are getting off the ground and we can work out all the different measures we can take including taking the odd cover debris covers off the engine off the engines to help them with airflow and the very meager airflow, just that episode small amount to help boost the thrust. And you know, they’re the kind of people that can really think on their feet. But even better than that, those are two of my best pilots as well. So we’ve ended up with this really neat team from a technical point of view and there is a broader group beyond the three core of us so they can do so much whether it’s filming some cinematic sequence or editing some wonderful pieces. To the media or flying or doing a piece to camera further news or coding a canvas control system for a new experimental suit or indeed doing additive sympathetic CAD design for the latest suits, you can kind of vaguely see one sitting back there, all of that structure is 3d printed now, so gone sort of rich, deep capability, not quite savant level capability from so my team, but they are, they are a master of a number of different skills and very close and intimate to the evolution of the suit. So from the technical point of view, those guys are core, I’ve got a couple of folks on the commercial side and events side, there’s two women who are been again with me from right from the beginning, who have gone from everything from organizing shipping containers to go to Bermuda for our race series that was postponed, and we’re supposed to be going live two weeks ago, but to organize how you do all that, to getting my equipment out of any one of the 30 countries around the world, if there’s been a last minute hitch from a technical point of view, or so, you know, it is a really eclectic bunch, often from quite varied backgrounds that bring together a whole range of skills. But often, Oh, those skills overlap in a positive way, which means that they can fill in for each other and have a deep appreciation for each other’s domains. That’s quite key as well. So really, to answer your question, the core team has about half a dozen, and there’s a wider group of 12 to 20 spread around the world that often do kind of part time support for us. I mean, there’s people like the former director of the F 35 development program as a former chief test pilot, so why to team you know, it’s we’ve been so privileged in having such amazing people like that reach out over the last three years, and just with this almost childlike urge to be part of this journey. But again, a massive win for you know, what is effectively it’s still a small business. Absolutely. Now tell us about maybe perhaps a time when things didn’t go the way you wanted to. And I, whenever I see your videos, you’re flying over a city or flying or whatever, like, what if the suit stops working for whatever reason, it just stops tell us about maybe a time when something of that sort happened, or you were like, Oh, my God, what’s happening, but then you came out of it just first to understand what the experience is gonna be flying up in the air. So our ethos is quite clear at this. So innovation is all about failure. To be honest, it’s all about going and stepping out doing something that hasn’t been done before. And critically, learning from all the mistakes and being able to get back up again from failure. If you go and decide you’re going to build 1000 horsepower jet suit and you have a go with version one, fire it up and go to 200 feet, and as you say, learned the hard way that there’s a problem with what you’re doing. But you’re not going to get to have another go if you’ve got up to 200 feet. So our ethos is very clear, take the risk, but very quickly analyze what is the worst that can happen if that risk manifests. And if that risk means that you’re not going to be able to recover from a physical injury or death, obviously, financial impacts that you can’t recover from or a reputational impact because you’ve you know, you’ve been stupid the number of times I’ve looked at an event and I’d be flying around for an audience. And I’ve seen like a bus go by, you know, 200 meters, 300 meters, the other side of the event, and I thought, you know, it’d be really cool to go and land on the bus, surfer bus and then come back again, probably go quite viral. But you know, a quick sense check, you know, and I’m not 20 anymore, is, am I really going to be allowed to go and do many more of these events. If I could build a reputation for being fast and loose with you know, the respect for the event organizers will know so it’s reputation financial and most critically safety. If we can’t recover from a risk manifesting in any three of those areas, we don’t do it. So you’ll notice that we don’t fly massively high. I mean, even overwater we you know will fly 30 4050 feet over water. But in every instance we analyze if you got a failure at that moment, can you get back up again and it’s it’s a subtle difference from some of the other flying devices you see out there we always assume the worst we always assume that they could get a completely unfathomable failure and therefore for instance, our race series is all going to be over water and you know, for that reason that it means it keeps it safe. In fact, actually your question is very opportune because on our YouTube channel, gravity industries We are now going back through the archive and pulling out lots of clips including we haven’t published it yet but an episode that’s going to be entirely focused on fails on my keynotes I do all over the world I cover these and they always end up being the most popular part of the talk and we’ve kept all the fails all the crashes you know, no one’s ever hurt themselves, but they look quite quite spectacular and dramatic and they are they resonate I think a little in some people’s minds with those clips that you see in the first Marvel Iron Man film of where the Downey Jr. character is smacking into the walls of this wonderful man cave. Some of them are a little bit like that but not quite as dramatic incredible I know you’re very busy Richard and and you’re doing you’re printing something right now you’re in your workshop I don’t want to take all If Your time’s right. I do want to ask you about the future we’re connected together because of our good friend john shorter you know you’ve written a piece in in aftershock. And Alvin Toffler wrote the book 50 years ago, 50 years ago, I can’t even imagine 50 years ago, I’m not 50 so it’s like so full so back for me, same for you probably and what did Topher see back in the day, and he could predict and he could say, Hey, this is what will happen to the world. it’s mind blowing. Incredible. I want to ask you, what are you seeing emerge out of your work in the next 15 to 20 years? What kind of a world you see happen, what kind of cities do you see while you’re doing well, I mean, I’ll tackle the obvious question that might be in some of the listeners minds around you know, I do I harbor an ambition that everybody’s going to be flying around in jet seats, and taking a School and go to the shops and get seats when we’re allowed out. Maybe it’s a good way of socially distancing? And the moment you know, and the answer is no at the moment because they are you know that that machine, there are the six sitting around, there’s another one down there, they are all 1000 horsepower, they produce about 115 122 decibels of sound, you know, a bit like a very high end motorbike, they can be safe if you know what you’re doing with them. But if you don’t, then there is the opportunity to hurt yourself quite readily. So hence, we train people properly and all that sort of stuff. But you know, it’s not as simple as just jumping in a car turning the key and going. However, the very first motorcars were considered noisy, smelly, and inefficient. And we’re joked, compared to looking at the incumbent technology, which was a horse, look where that technology’s got to. So our focus is training clients doing events, and particularly building our big race series, which everybody will hopefully enjoy the content from, when we’re allowed out to Bermuda for the belated event that happened a couple of weeks ago, I think we can reinvent a whole new form of Marvel esque aerial Formula One, if you like a contour around water, air locations all over the world. Anyway, that’s another story. If a byproduct of all of that evolution and all of that public awareness, and things like battery technology hugely in enhancing, then maybe a new very raw form almost Da Vinci form of flight, which means I can put on the absolute minimalist amount of equipment and then just go anywhere in three dimensional space. You know, I think we’re about the closest out there to delivering that. So maybe that could evolve into more of a mainstream thing. So that that’s, that’s in terms of personal mobility and flight. You know, I’ve got a watching brief, but it’s not our focus at the moment more broadly, I mean, to answer your question, I think actually, this current trauma around the virus is probably going to teach us more about where the future is going then than anything, I think the fact that so many people are getting so familiar with communicating like this, I think that’s going to change society hugely. I think we’re going to end up with people not shopping, when you know, rafts of the more elderly generations and now all online online shopping and talking to their grandkids online. And I think it’s going to accelerate is from really a decade over 2020 to a position where people are going to reevaluate, why do they physically need to go on holiday physically need to be next to their work and physically need to live in a certain location in a dense, crowded, expensive city, I think we’re going to shift probably to become a physically more lonely community. But then that’s the onus is on the technology to make you know, this interaction we’re having now feel ever more real, you know, better resolution, better voice, the fact that I’m, I have to look up here at the camera, when really, you’re there. And I’m here, you know, all of these subtleties, which I know in the corporate world, I remember in BP that we really need video conferencing systems that would even actually remove the peril access aspects to video conferencing. So I thought it’d be my best guess of the answer. I think the way that we interact as human beings, whether it’s for work or leisure is gonna change and this the virus lockdown is shining a light on on where we’re gonna go, for better or worse. Thank you. Do you think from a technological perspective, if you look at some of the must have absolutely necessary things you need for slung suit to use is probably fuel that you’re using. But what about different technologies? I don’t know. What about battery technology? What about nuclear power, just like Stark uses it? Yeah. So I’ll just touch on the nuclear thing for a minute. So I often stand on stage and talk about jet engines, you know, gas turbines, which is what we use being about the most energy dense form of propulsion out there. And to be clear, I mean, an engine that takes fuel and produces X amount of thrust for y mass. So you know, the little engines we use are about two kilos, or what four or five pounds and they put out 22 kilos, or more like 50 pounds of thrust, that ratio is insane. Now they do consume a lot of fuel to make up that gap there. But I got stopped once in a talk where somebody actually did afterwards in the in the question, say, actually, you’re wrong. The most energy dense engine, if you like, is a nuclear reactor, they do tend to weigh an awful lot, but put out an astronomical amount of power as well, anyway, no, I don’t think I mean, if you could get Gosh, if you could crack cold, you know, fusion, so fusion rather than fishing, if you could crack fusion, and somewhere long down the list of things you can do without often mainstream power generation, for no waste, and no real fuel consumption? might be the miniaturization of it. And then maybe, yes, you’d had another big leap towards the Tony Stark world. But no, I mean, a long way off. I think, unfortunately, about battery technology. Yeah, so so more realistically, is battery. So we built somewhere in the background somewhere, I can’t think where maybe there’s an example of a bit of a electric turbine up there, we have built an electric version of a jet suit, and it uses big electric ducted fans, they are electric motors, you know, with electric fans on them and with a big bunch of LiPo batteries. And it is tough because the energy density of a lithium polymer battery is about 60 times worse than fuel. So jet fuel or diesel or gasoline. So in other words you need let’s say, for a pound or a kilo of jet fuel, you need 60 pounds of battery to contain the same energy which is a real pain. So we have just about got off the ground we did in a quite amusing way. We solved the problem slightly by just making the pilot very, very much lighter. So I use then one of my kids, they’re now 11 and 13. I used at the time my nine year old on a safety tablet to be clear, and he managed to bounce around like he’s on the moon with this big electric noisy fan thing. It was more of a line in the sand marked where we are now and as people like Mr. Musk, advanced down the route of electric cars and everything else Electric including claims there will be an ever increasing number of options out there, and we’ll ready to Hoover those up as they come. But for now, it’s tough. It’s really tough to beat diesel or jet fuel and gas turbine incredible. Richard, well, I want to let you go because I know it’s time give us some parting advice on how do you think bigger than your circumstances? How do you create something larger than life? Is it I think about a process to this? I think that there’s a number of things I throw out there. So one is think like a child, you know, you are you haven’t been out of you at school and it you know, college and whatever, you know, silly things, just, you know, lining up in your mind, you know, how I don’t know looking at something, thinking how it looks like an animal or wondering why, you know, some street light doesn’t quite line up with the edge of your windowpane when you’re glancing out of the window, not listening to us, you know, we’re always told to shut up and look at the textbook and listen and tell you know, regurgitate what you’ve been taught. Actually, all the big breakthroughs are staring out the window and thinking in a way No one’s ever thought before. They’re taking inspiration and letting those ideas just lurk around with each other in your mind in a way that no one else has been mad enough to imagine. It doesn’t say on the guidebook, you should go and put a jet engine on your arm. And there’s a lot of good reasons why you think it’s going to tear your arm off and the gyroscopic momentum and the fact that you know it’s going to flail around like a hose pipe and all these things. Actually, there’s good physics reasons why they don’t but the conventional received wisdom was that they would be impossible. Well, actually, if you just step out there and go and play in a safe way and cover off those risk rules. Just get out there and think like a child and play and explore and imagine and let your imagination go crazy. And then work out how quickly and realistically you can get off the idea into actually testing the concept. You know, a little secret over there is there is a baby carrying rucksack back stuck to some plywood with some door hinges. And I can’t tell you any more than that. But that we’ve I was flying that 24 hours ago. Wow. And it’s using door hinges and plywood and because Okay, we’re three years in we’re you know, certainly on paper, a multi million dollar company, having been seen enjoyed by millions of people around the world. But that does not stop us from going and using plywood and door hinges to test the new generation of suit which is frankly insane compared to what we do now. And the key to that, like I say is not being afraid to go and safely test new concepts still amazing, incredible. Richard, I can’t thank you enough for being part of the income show and the podcast and being a contributor on aftershock. We definitely will keep on following your progress and seeing your amazing work. Thank you. Thank you for being here. Thank you very much. I’m just really good to hear like hey, yeah, it’s sitting here as well. There you go. All right. Say thank you very much to you then. Thank you. It’s been a pleasure you take care. Bye. Bye. Hey, friends, this is Ian Khan. 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Joe and I are co-contributors to the recent book “After Shock”, along with 50 plus other experts and futurists.

Joe Tankersley is a writer, futurist, and former Walt Disney Imagineer. He combines his broad experience as a storyteller with a deep knowledge of strategic foresight to help organizations create compelling visions for better tomorrows.

During his 20 years at Walt Disney Imagineering, Joe led creative teams on projects for Epcot, Magic Kingdom Park, Disney’s Animal Kingdom, Disney’s Hollywood Studios, and the Disneyland Resort in California. Much of his work involved creating “serious fun;” using entertainment to enlighten, empower and inspire guests from around the world. These experiences taught him the importance of transforming complex information into narratives that can be easily accessed by diverse audiences. His projects have been recognized nationally and internationally, including receiving the prestigious THEA award for his work on Millennium Village at Epcot.

As part of Walt Disney Imagineering’s elite Blue Sky Studio, Joe helped establish the group’s first Strategic Foresight Program. In that role, he created a series of innovative projects designed to explore possible futures for The Walt Disney Studios, Disney Parks and Resorts, The Disney Company’s Corporate Citizenship Group, and Walt Disney World Operations. He continues to support those groups today as an outside consultant. Since the fall of 2014, Joe has applied the knowledge and skills gained by his years working for the world’s most successful entertainment company to help others “Imagineer better tomorrows.” His clients include multinational corporations, major foundations, and community-based organizations. Recent projects have explored the future of the workforce, retail, sustainability, public health, creativity, and aging. Joe is an active contributor to the professional foresight community.

He served on the board of directors for the Association of Professional Futurists from 2010-2015 and organized international foresight gatherings in 2013 and 2015. He is a frequent keynote speaker at major conferences where he delivers his message about the power of narrative to create future opportunities. Joe is also actively involved in efforts to create better tomorrows for his local community. He is a member of Conscious Capitalism Florida and has served as an advisor to numerous local nonprofits. He currently serves on the creative advisory board to the Federal Alliance for Safe Homes. The ultimate goal of all his work is to show others how to use foresight and narrative to create , sustainable, equitable, and abundant futures.

Contact Joe at www.uniquevisions.net

Contributors to After Shock include

Alan Kay, Aaron Frank, Adrienne Mayor, Alexander Mankowsky, Alexandra Ivanovitch, Alisha Bhagat, Amy Zalman, Anders Sorman-Nilsson, Andra Keay, Andrew Curry, Andy Hines, Anita Sengupta, Anne Lise Kjaer, Aris Persidis, Aubrey de Grey, Barry O’Reilly, Barry Vacker, Bill Davidow, Bill Diamond, Bryan Alexander, Byron Reese, Carlos Osorio, Carver Mead Cat Tully, Cindy Frewen, Clem Bezold, Daniel Burrus, Daniel Levine, David Brin, David Guston, David Krakauer, David J. Staley, David Weinberger, Deb Westphal, Diane M. Francis, Donna Dupont, Eleanor “Nell” Watson, Eric Daimler, Erica Bol, Erik Qualman, Fotis Sotiropoulos, George Gilder, Grady Booch, Gray Scott, Hannes Sjoblad, Harish Natarajan, Hazel Henderson, Helen Messier, Ian Khan, Ignacio Pena, Jack Uldrich, James Canton, Jane McGonigal, Jason Jackson, Jason Schenker, Jay Gambetta, Jeff Eisenach, Jeffrey C. Bauer, Jerome Glenn , Jerry Fishenden, Joe Dispenza , Joe Tankersley, Joel Garreau, John L. Petersen, John M. Smart, John Sack, John Sanei, John Schroeter, Jonathan Venn, José Morey, Kaitlyn Sadtler, Kirk Borne, Klee Irwin, Kris Østergaard, Lisa Bodell , Maciej Kranz, Martin Guigui, Martin Rees, Maggie Greyson, Michael Tomczyk, Michel Laberge, Mick Ebeling, Moon Ribas, Naveen Jain, Neil Jacobstein, Newt Gingrich, Patricia Lustig & Gill Ringland, Paul Saffo, Paul Stimers, Po Bronson & Arvind Gupta, Ray Kurzweil, Rebecca Costa, Richard Browning, Richard Slaughter, Richard Watson, Richard Yonck, Rodrigo Nieto Gómez, Rohit Bhargava, Ross Dawson, Ruth Miller, Sanjiv Chopra & Pankaj K Vij, Sohail Inayatullah, Sridhar Mahadevan , Stan Rosen Stephanie Mehta , Steve Waite , Tanya Accone, Terrence (Terry) Sejnowski , Teun Koetsier , Theodore Jay Gordon , Thomas Frey , Timothy Chou , Vikram Mansharamani, Wolfgang Fengler, Zoltan Istvan

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I am thrilled to have Dr. Anita Sengupta on the Ian Khan Show in an After Shock special episode.

Bio

Dr. Anita Sengupta Dr. Anita Sengupta is a rocket scientist and aerospace engineer who for over 20 years has been developing technologies that have enabled the exploration of Mars, Asteroids, and Deep Space. She started her career working on the launch of vehicles and communications satellites at Boeing Space and Communications.

Next her journey took her to the forefront of the US space program. At NASA her doctoral research focused the developing the ion engines that powered the Dawn spacecraft to reach Vesta and Ceres in the main asteroid belt launched in 2006. She was then responsible for the supersonic parachute system that was integral to the landing of the Curiosity Rover on Mars in 2012. From 2012 to 2017 she managed and led the development of the Cold Atom Laboratory, a laser-cooling quantum physics facility that is now onboard the International Space Station.

Her next engineering role took her to the private sector as a senior executive leading the development of an in-vacuum, magnetically levitating, electrically propelled high-speed transportation system known as the hyperloop. She led the product planning, systems architecture, regulatory compliance, and human safety certification as Senior Vice President of Systems Engineering at Virgin Hyperloop. Her current venture is leading the development of terrestrial and space-based transportation technologies as an entrepreneur and research professor. Her research includes eVTOL, hydrogen fuel cell powered aircraft, supersonic boom mitigation technology, and in space power and propulsion systems. Dr. Sengupta is also a Research Associate Professor at the University of Southern California.

She teaches the only Entry Descent and Landing class on the West Coast for Graduate students in the Astronautics and Space Technology Department. She is also a professional public speaker and STEM outreach advocate. She keynotes events around the world sharing with audiences her personal and professional experiences of Engineering the Red Planet and the Future of Green Transportation. In her spare time she is an avid instrument-rated pilot, motorcyclist, runner, snowboarder, bicyclist, and science fiction, enthusiast. Follow her at https://anitasengupta.com/

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In this episode I am super excited to have Dr Timothy Chou on the Ian Khan Show.

About Timothy Chou

Timothy Chou has been lucky enough to have a career spanning academia, successful (and not so successful) startups and large corporations. He was one of only a few people to hold the President title at Oracle. As President of Oracle On Demand he grew the cloud business from it’s very beginning.

Today that business is over $2B. He wrote about the move of applications to the cloud in 2004 in his first book, “The End of Software”. Today he serves on the board of Blackbaud (NASDAQ: BLKB) as well as Teradata (NYSE: TDC) After earning his PhD in EE at the University of Illinois he went to work for Tandem Computers, one of the original Silicon Valley startups. Had he understood stock options he would have joined earlier.

He’s invested in and been a contributor to a number of other startups, some you’ve heard of like Webex, and others you’ve never heard of but were sold to companies like Cisco and Oracle. Today he is focused on several new ventures in cloud computing, machine learning and the Internet of Things. Finally, he was lucky enough to be able to start teaching at Stanford University in 1982.

He taught introductory computer architecture for fifteen years and only stopped because one day he had to fly to Bali, do a sales kickoff and fly back in 24 hours to teach class. Since leaving Oracle he returned to Stanford to create first course on cloud computing, CS309A.stanford.edu.

Not only has he lectured at many major universities, but also delivered keynote speeches on all six continents.

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Ian Khan
Hello, friends, this is Ian Khan and Today is August six. It’s a Thursday, and I’m super excited to be on this future readiness live stream with a really good friend of mine, Dr. Jonathan Reichental. Today is when his new book smart cities for dummies future debuts on on in the Canadian market. And there’s a lot to talk about. There’s tons of people registered for this. And we’re going to get started and talk about the emergence of smart cities. What do they really mean for us? Why should we care? Why Jonathan wrote that book? And we’re going to ask him some personal questions. Why did you write the book and there’s a ton of great questions that are coming along. If you’re watching this, then you’re probably either on YouTube, Facebook, LinkedIn, live, or Twitter. And please keep your comments coming. I can receive them here at the back end. And we’ll take questions as we go on. And we’re super excited to to be here. Let me do this. Let me introduce Jonathan, as I know him, and and how we met and and how he came into the picture and how I came into his into into the picture as well. So Jonathan, and I, we’ve worked on some really amazing initiatives. Over the last few years, we’ve done some work with the government of the UAE, United Arab Emirates, the Prime Minister’s office in the UAE. And one thing led to the other. And here we are collaborating on on a podcast on a live stream. When Johnson wrote started writing this book, I was really excited, because the industry does not have a book like this. Yes, we have a lot of information about smart cities, but nothing that explains it to us in a way that he’s done in smart cities for Dummies. And that’s it. That’s really it. Without any further ado, let me bring Jonathan on board. And we will take it from there. Jonathan, welcome to econ show. And this is the future readiness live stream. And we are debuting two things today we’re debuting a series that I’m calling the future readiness live stream. This is all about future readiness. What do you do in your business, career life, and so on. And also, we’re doing the Canadian launch for your book, which my friend we have right here as well is smart cities for Dummies. There you go. All our viewers, this book is incredible. You’ve got to buy it. And I’ll send you a link on this in the next few minutes. Jonathan, tell me about yourself. Where did you come from? Like Where? Who are you give me a background.

Jonathan Reichental
Thank you. And hey, it’s so great to see you at the chat with you. Yeah, I consider you such a great friend and a mentor and an inspiration for me. So it’s great to be talking with you today. Last time we spoke I had you on my little podcast drinking wine talking tech and that that was wonderful. You were talking about your your new documentary that you’re working on regarding artificial intelligence. So thanks for the question. I’m, I’m, by the way, just thrilled to be launching smart cities for dummies in Canada today. One of my favorite places in the country that I go to often. I go to Toronto a lot, and many other places. So it’s just a thrill. And I hope that I get to see many of my friends there again and colleagues. So some people the first thing they recognize with me is my accents, right? Where they kind of try to figure it out. They think you know, there’s an American accent there. But is there English or South African in there? And I’ll tell you, I was born in Ireland, in Ireland and Dublin City, and grew up there. I came to the United States as a young adult with a suitcase and a green card. And that was it. No job. No one I I did when I got here. I did stay with some second cousins in Florida. But I was starting life a new and it was just you know, back in my early 20s it was a big adventure. Coming to America, you know, the land of Starsky and Hutch and the ATM and Hill Street Blues, you know, on Sesame Street. I’m showing my age a little bit there. But yeah, I I’m a tech guy and you know, be working in the tech industry in Ireland. And then when it came to us, it was obvious that I was going to continue to be a tech guy. Worked for a big consulting firm PricewaterhouseCoopers for a long time. Almost 15 years, I think. And I had progressively different, you know it leadership roles. My last job with PricewaterhouseCoopers, or today they’re known as PwC. My last job was the director of innovation and technology innovation, I got to say that that was like, you know, doing your hobby and getting paid for it. I say that a lot. But it’s, it’s worth repeating. Because everybody should try to do the things they love and make it a profession, because that that’s a that’s a good quality of life. And then I became a CIO with O’Reilly Media, working with Tim O’Reilly and his team menza had to move from Florida over to California. And I was there for a couple of years. And then I got a call from out of nowhere from a headhunter to come and work for government. And so I, I, I said, Okay, let me let me know, more or less explain to me what this opportunity is. And you know, and so they wanted me to be the CIO, and you know, the Chief Technology Officer for the birthplace of Silicon Valley, Palo Alto places. And so that’s an interesting place to work in government, you know, how could we leverage the startups in the Silicon Valley ecosystem, to deliver government better and differently, you know, and, and that’s, I sort of embarked on a seven year experiment, actually, you know, running this route of helping to run the city, leading the technology efforts. And I fell in love with cities, I basically fell in love with cities, and I had the opportunity and such a privilege to be invited to speak to governments all over the world to help them think about how they could deliver better services and improve the quality of life. And so that’s, and that’s an abbreviated version of my story. But those are the some of the highlights. And you know, that story that that education I got in cities, and that passion that I grew for cities is now manifested in this book.

Ian Khan
Excellent, excellent, excellent. I love how we’re starting off and we’ve already got comments coming in. I’m going to put one up on the on the screen. Lou says, I was about to see that you’re dating yourself. Thank you. And now I know that you know, dinosaurs are definitely extinct and left one behind.

Jonathan Reichental
I remember being a kid in Dublin, in Dublin, Ireland, and I was out in the in the backyard, what we call the garden over there. And my Oh, my middle brother, Gideon said, Jonathan come in. And I really I must have been six or seven, maybe even younger. Yeah. And I ran in front of the TV like cuz he said, Look what’s on. And it was a show, all just with puppets, just the puppets. And it was the Muppet Show was the first episode of The Muppet Show. And to us, this was, this was joy. This was Fantasyland. Yeah. And I fell in love with the Muppets.

Ian Khan
Going back to those years, Jonathan, you know, X amount of years. 20 3040. x, you know that that range of years? Don’t go too far. Keep on being very conservative. Do I mean, we had a television set? Right? We had a television set that was the center of life, maybe a radio as well. But no internet, no cable TV, no. smart devices. And I’m trying to think about the evolution of a smart city. There was no concept perhaps, of a smart city. I think cities were still struggling with basic infrastructure, electricity, power grid, and, and a bunch of those things. Do you remember living in you and you lived in Dublin? Right?

Jonathan Reichental
Yeah.

Ian Khan
Do you remember life as a kid in a city in the city of Dublin? What was life for? For you back then in terms of city infrastructure? Yeah,

Jonathan Reichental
yeah. Well, look, let’s give the audience a view into the time period, we’re talking about the 1970s. So I you know, I grew up in the in the mid 1970s. And, you know, now it’s 2020, would you say 2020? That’s almost 50 years. And the world is very different. really different in so many ways. You know, there was no notion of climate change or the climate crisis. You know, there was, you know, China was a undeveloped country for the most part, you know, in our, our, one of our favorite places, Dubai, you know, was just a few settlements in the desert. So, you know, the, and of course, the internet arrived and, you know, electronics and the smartphone and now artificial intelligence and blockchain and others, where the world is absolutely different from the 1970s. You know, I always think I feel I was very fortunate, but maybe every child thinks this when they ultimately grew up, you know, the times were really quaint, you know, growing up Dublin, I always say I had a wonderful childhood, it was very peaceful. Even though Ireland had the troubles, you know, the, unfortunately, the terrorism that was happening in the north of the country, for the most part, it didn’t impact our lives. But it was, you know, it was it was, you know, it was Ireland is cold and rainy. And, and all I remember the sunny days running around outside, you know, as kids, we always think of that, think of the nice times. But yeah, you know, it is over the last 40 or 50 years that as more and more people have moved into cities, it really has become by 2008, the majority of humans now live in cities over 50, you know, 55% now. And so, you know, we went from being more of a rural world, to an urban world, that’s a great transformation that, you know, the, the the future now belongs to cities, our future belongs to cities. So we, what we’ve seen in the last 50 years is massive accelerated urbanization. I mean, you think, look, look, if you get a chance, look at a picture of Shanghai in 1970. Right, and look at a picture of Shanghai in 2020. I mean, it’s, in every way, it’s transformational. And, and this is not slowing down, you know, the urbanization of the planet is rapid. We we have about, you know, three up to 3 million of them, somewhere between one to 3 million people per week move into cities, we’re building the equivalent of 40 New York cities. So think about this statistic. We’re building the equivalent of 40. urban areas, urban infrastructure, the size of New York City every month, every month, these statistics are staggering. I will do that for the next 30 years. We’ll do that for the next 30 years. So a very different world. You know, it’s hard now to imagine, we didn’t have any mobility, right? Any any cellular technology that was widely available. No such thing as Internet again, my last point on this when, you know, as we entered the 1980s, it was my older brother, David, who was the tech guy in the house, and he brought the Commodore VIC 20. There, I’m dating myself again, they come out of Vic 20, into the house, and then the Commodore 64. Yeah. And we hooked it up to the telephone. And we would have dial up bulletin services, you know, we use copies, we use compuserve. And I just want to share one more thing, because I think this will be a little giggle for a lot of us. Yeah. We could serve, we could serve an information system on the TV. It was called Ceefax, c e, fa x. And it was funny, I was wondering, a few months ago, whether it still existed, and yes, it is a it is a website today. But we use the television remote to call up information services. So a different type of you know, more, a more, what appears to be a quieter time.

Ian Khan
Amazing, I love it. And, you know, I still you mentioned the Commodore 64. I remember my first interaction with a computer being with a BBC Micro. And those are the computers we had in our, in our computer lab in our school. And we bought I think get one hour or half an hour every week. And although we would just do basic, literally basic multiplication and started playing Pac Man on it afterwards. It was fascinating to see what this thing was. And I know it’s been, you know, a few decades, 20 3040 years since that era has passed. But I really believe that we’ve gone through a huge progression in terms of how we live, what is normal to us now. I mean, our devices, our cell phones, whatever you use, I don’t think anyone living in a civilized society with access to modern amenities infrastructure can be happy without these devices and technology as it is, um, internet connectivity is now a necessity. It’s a utility that and we accept expect a certain level of minimum quality, like bandwidth quality you absolutely expected. And so we are gone. We’ve just rapidly accelerated this pace. Let’s let’s talk about your book. So your book is incredible. The book is out. It’s called Smart Cities for dummies and people like me, and many others out there who want to know what exactly is a smart city I think you’ve done an incredible job by by toiling away the midnight hours and writing this book for the last few months. I know that journey that you’ve taken undertaken. Tell us about what how did you approach this book? What did you think about when you started writing the book. What did you think you were going to write about? Tell us about that process?

Jonathan Reichental
Yeah, sure, sure. And that’s, I appreciate the question coming from an author yourself. You’ve had a couple of successful books yourself. Just I wanted to comment on one point you said about conductivity? And that’ll answer your question, which is, you know, you and I, and probably everybody, I would say, everyone who watch this woke up, and we had internet access, we probably checked our smartphone. Right? It’s worth noting that about 45% of the world, you know, about 3 billion people did not check the internet this morning, cuz they don’t have access to it. You know, we’re not a connected world yet, you might think we are. But we still have a long way to connect the rest of humanity. And it’s, we’re not talking small numbers here, we’re talking three, 3 billion people. Likewise, by the way, not everybody has electricity today, you know, the project to to deploy electricity, which started in the 1800s is still ongoing, there’s still about 800 million people in the world 800 million, who don’t have electricity, right? Yes, yeah. So you know, that the the building of good infrastructure, you know, making available facilities and capabilities of a 21st century world are not evenly distributed. That’s a project we have to continue to work on. So not getting back back to your book. You know, when I was at the city of Palo Alto, I certainly had an interest in writing, but I was so consumed by the work at the city. And I made a commitment that, you know, when I leave, I would, I would really focus on on some writing. And just by complete coincidence, I was approached by Wiley Wiley is a, you know, very well respected large publishing company global. And they they called me and they said, Would you we, we’d like you to write a book on the future of cities. And I said, Yeah, let’s, that’s exactly what I wanted to do. And later on, we, we decided we would put it into the dummies series, which is a fabulous brand and a huge success around the world. And my goal was to write a book that didn’t exist, you know, my, my goal was to write a book, that was not theory. So you can buy plenty of smart city books. Many of them are academic, you know, there’s a variety of different types. But I wanted to write one that was a how to guide I wanted to capture for people the steps you take, you know, to build a smart, smarter, more sustainable community and city specifically. And so the book is really that that sort of product I, you know, each chapter is how to create a smart city strategy, how to deploy new technologies, how to create a innovation district, you know, what does climate change mean to cities? And how do we mitigate? And you’re not your questions, really, sort of straightforward questions like, how do we afford this stuff? You know, we got to talk about procurement when we talk about investing in our cities. So I talk a lot about that about regulations and policies and important things like water, right? How do we better manage that rare resource of, of drinking water, the future of power, which was fascinating to me, you know, as we, as we sort of traverse this great global transformation from a carbon based energy world, to a non carbon, more sustainable energy based world with, by the way with solar, and wind being, you know, dominant players of the next few decades. So what it is, is, is my attempt as an educator, which I fundamentally am to help people understand how we can build better cities so we can have a better quality of life. It it’s not a technology book, although technologies in it, it’s actually a book about us. It’s a book about people. That’s really important.

Ian Khan
One of the things that that comes to, of course, comes to mind when you talk about smart cities is it might sound technical, it might sound a topic that, you know, people like yourselves and other technologists might want to talk to each other about, but it’s really about everyday living. It’s really about how does electricity gets served to you at your home and to understand the environment that you’re living in the infrastructure laid out and where we’re headed. I always put a lot of emphasis on the fact that we have to become a learning community, a learning generation where we are learning constantly about new things. And I think the book does an incredible job because it’s explains really complex topics in a very simple format that everybody can understand. And we can see that success happening. Because there’s tons of pictures that you keep on posting of people and their kids reading the book. And, and and doing that. Yeah, so that’s incredible.

Jonathan Reichental
So I just want to add to that I, you know, I wrote the book for everybody, but I knew that city managers, Chief Technology officers, you know, elected officials, you know, your typical sort of government, portfolio, people are going to be interested. But I’ve been absolutely blown away by how many children love the book, this has been one of the biggest surprises. It’s, it’s a fun book, it’s enlightening. And that, you know, lots of nice little pictures and diagrams and things. You know, kids are interested in their communities. And they’re, they’re really fascinated by the, you know, the the cities in which they live. So that’s been a lovely, lovely surprise for me.

Ian Khan
Incredible. So time is flying, Jonathan, we’ve got to make the best off of this. I’m going to encourage all viewers to post a question ask a question. I see a lot of friends have tuned in and people from different industries, your question about your industry and its connection with smart cities. ie V’s, urban transportation, health care, education, everything is connected with smart cities. What I also want to do, Jonathan has asked you to maybe read a passage or a few parts from the book that you think we should really, that really fit in with the context of today and where we are. So I want you to do that. I also want to talk about current events, and its relationship to smart cities, and the internet, just so that we understand, hey, this is the world we live in. So let’s start with with current events, and then we’ll go to the reading. So sure, in current events, we have things such as elections, we have a pandemic that we’re fighting, the entire world is engulfed in it. We also have a very tragic incident that has taken place in Beirut, just just a day ago, where this entire dump off ammonium nitrate just exploded, it exploded. And 130 plus people are dead. So as a as a as a world, we’re dealing with multiple challenges, not even mentioning the state of health care in places where people cannot access health care less, I think less, I think about 2 billion people do not have access to basic health care in the world, right. So that’s the state we’re living in. Let’s talk about current events. Let’s talk about these three things. impact and connection of smart cities to safety of people keeping that explosion in mind, to the pandemic disease, healthcare. So give us an insight on what can how does it connect, and maybe the third one, elections or governance so that government affairs help us understand the connection?

Jonathan Reichental
A lot, a lot of stuff there.

Ian Khan
We want to we want to squeeze everything that you’ve got in your in your brilliant mind, my friend?

Jonathan Reichental
Well, I’ll certainly try my best. Let’s start with the pandemic. Right. I think I think on health care. We’re early in this right. So you know, we really started to emerge in a big way globally in March. We’re now in early August. So it’s, you know, it’s a few months, but it’s still early, the the consequences, the implications are not well understood. And we’re certainly not in a place where we can see the the clear exit from this crisis. So as we speak today, you know, we’ll look back on this video, I want to be clear, there’s a lot we don’t know. There’s a lot, though, that is becoming more evidence around, you’re working from home phenomenon, many countries that was not adopted now is being used, right, that that’s a difference in it. The The, the evidence suggests that that’s here to stay. And not maybe to the extent it is for everybody right now. But clearly, working from home works. It’s better for the environment. It’s better for mental health. There’s advantages around some people want to go to the office. That’s cool, too. Things like delivery. You know, I think delivery is now off the charts. Yeah. You know, I’m a person who I always went to the store to get groceries and today I have been ordering more groceries to be delivered. I was forced to and then I realized they it’s actually pretty good. You know, don’t have to do it always. But if I’m in a bind to something, it’s quite nice to get everything delivered to your doorstep. You know, remote medicine, I think is going to explode. All types of distance healthcare is going to be become a reality. The fact is some of these things like, for example, virtual conferences, delivery and health care at a distance, they were underway, they were happening. And what we find with the with the pandemic now isn’t it is it is an acceleration, right. So there’ll be lots of consequences that emerge out of that. If you have more delivery, you could have a better infrastructure for cars to, you know, for trucks to be able to park curbside, and to double Park and things like that. One of the things we have to recognize about our cities is, you know, there are lots of, there are advantages, believe it or not, for people, we’re living in dense areas, I mean, for the most part, cities have actually been really successful. And for the most part, people love their cities. There’s a lot of challenges, a lot of really horrible issues that we still have to overcome, but people like living in these dense environments. And that density is not great when you when you when we think about things like health care, right? You know, everything from, you know, being exposed to violence to, you know, insufficient support for people with disabilities, to a contagion that, that goes from person to person. This is an interesting exercise. It’s a crisis, and it’s horrible, but we have to learn from this pandemic, what it means to how we design our cities in the future. That’s an open question. Now, a couple other questions. Yeah. What are we just briefly remind me the other two?

Ian Khan
No, that’s incredible. So that’s the connection off, of course, smart cities on on things such as a pandemic, and I’m wondering Johnson yet, in the future, as technologies converge, for example, you’ve got the Internet of Things, which is a sensor, you know, dependent technology, combines with the art with artificial intelligence, and other technologies, are we Is it even possible to have city that can prevent a pandemic? Can we detect the outbreak of disease in a certain area or certain areas? And somehow control it? What do you envision? That looks like?

Jonathan Reichental
Yeah, yeah, I appreciate that. Well look, with things like Internet of Things, which as you described, as is proliferation of sensors and an urban environment, or city IoT. We have a trade off, but we and we have a we have a societal debate about privacy versus, you know, the benefits. And trade, cultural, you know, depends what country we have this conversation, you know, that there’s countries that are much more liberal, or have a more of a kind of a top down governance in terms of their society, and others that are more democratic, more liberal, where people are pushing back and saying, No, we don’t want that type of surveillance, you know, and, and so this is we’re entering a period of probably a decade or so of debate about what we want to detect how we detect it, what information we collect. And, you know, we’re gonna have to carve that out as a people will do it, I think, probably country by country eventually. There’s, there’s no doubt. I mean, if you think about post 911, that horrific event that happened in New York, the terrorist attack, and other places, you know, afterwards, it was a scramble to be able to figure out how do we prevent that, and this this sort of military things we can do, but also, you know, how can we protect the weather, there’s explosive in a train station, or if there’s a chemical attack, and the chemicals are starting to, you know, disseminate across a wide urban platform. You know, we did put sensors up and some high risk communities have those sensors in place. So it’s, it’s not a stretch to imagine that we could begin to be able to monitor the spread of disease better. And frankly, we want that right now. You know, there’s been some interesting work being done to use cell phone locations to identify the spread of COVID-19. One of the limitations of course, in answering this question is, we don’t know what form the next pandemic will take. Right? And you know, just like COVID-19 is novel, it’s brand new. The next one will likely be novel two, and we might need a different set of tools. But I’ll say this, just in sort of conclusion on this big question, you know, more of us are washing our hands now more frequently and stores and airplanes and factories are cleaner. That’s always a good thing. That was always a good thing, you know? And so I hope that we continue the behavior of being more hygienic in our in how we go about our world and how we run our cities. things should be cleaner, and you know, Good clean environments are not the friend of bad, you know, viruses and bacteria. And so we could, you know, just by changing our behavior in cities and beyond, we could mitigate as well.

Ian Khan
Absolutely. I could see on different networks. You know, different people have logged in and they’re watching. On one of us on on LinkedIn, I have a really good friend of mine, who’s watching us. His name is Vivek Sharma. And he’s in Bangalore, India’s technology city, and I’m giving him a shout out right now. I know he’s in the transportation industry working on a product or technology for urban transportation, last mile transportation. Yes. What role does what is the future of transportation and electricity driven transport, play in smart cities or future cities, it’s an evolving area of a huge interest. Look at Tesla, an entirely electric car that’s blowing everybody’s mind because of the incredible success that it’s had. So help us understand that a little bit. The future of transportation.

Jonathan Reichental
Oh, it’s a it’s an amazing topic. And today, I would argue, transportation is probably one of the top four most important areas of smart cities. And if you’re wondering, the other three are, you know, sustainability, energy, and digitalization. So those are my top four. And that’ll change over time. But transportation, it’s a biggie, you know, let’s set the stage a little bit. First of all, cars have been incredible, but they’ve also been a bit of a disaster, right? They’ve been a disaster, because we’ve built our cities around cars and not around people. we’ve, we’ve created a lot of accidents, you know, it’s a horrible number we don’t talk about but about 1.4 million humans die in car accidents every year around the world, and, and millions more injured. Our cars for the last 100 years have been spewing out, you know, carbon exhaust into the environment. And that hasn’t been helping and, you know, again, transportation is the is about 30% of the climate crisis source. So, and then you got things like, you know, in an urban area, and in a dense sort of downtown area is 30% of the cars that are causing congestion or just cars, looking for a parking space, anywhere from 20 to 30%. And because we don’t have enough parking spaces, and we have horrible parking lots and our city landscape is, in some cities, 60% of an of a city is paved over just for cars. And that’s everything from roads to bridges to to parking lots. So it’s a really big deal. The good news is we see a lot of action in the space, we see everything from electrification of vehicles, and that’s happening quicker than we thought. Some countries have actual target dates. So you know, in Scandinavia, even even this decade, now they want to wind down on their their combustion engine cars. In Norway, for example, we just passed the point where the majority of new cars sold are electric. That’s a really huge milestone. Germany has, you know, 2035 proximately, UK 2040. India even has a target of 2045 for the last combustion engine cars to be sold. So this movement to electrification is a big one, you know, self driving cars, they’re coming, a V’s are coming. You know, there’s a lot of debate still, but I’m going to go on the record and say, within within a certain period of time, and I’m not ready to give a date. We will be transitioning rapidly to cars that drive themselves, we probably won’t own cars, you know, they’ll do they’ll be you know,

Ian Khan
and makes perfect sense. And without being too supportive of the technology of the movement of smart cities. I really believe that the the evolution of cities, being smart has a lot of different moving parts. And I really believe this is where entrepreneurship, startups can really focus on finding niche areas, finding applications where they can solve a problem, make things more efficient. help with making these cities smarter, or you know, for the lack of better word smart cities is amazing. But there’s much more to it than just a city being smart and intelligent. I think we are encouraging On an opportunity to, and this is, given the pandemic era that we’re living in. I know a lot of people are, are depressed, a business has been devastated and everybody’s trying to figure out a pivot. My recommendation to people out there is pivot to thinking about where we’re headed. We’re headed towards the era of smart cities, maybe in the next two 510 15 years, every city is automating things to a huge extent, go to your city, look at what’s being automated, what is the city planning to do 10 years from now or 15 years from now, and start investing your time, energy and effort in that direction, I think that could be an incredible opportunity for anybody to to to create a disruption proof opportunity to serve the world.

Jonathan Reichental
Now, you say that very, very well. And I’m 100%. Behind you. That’s exactly what I see. You know, as you think about the needs of cities going forward, they’re expensive. They you know, everything from health care, to education to buildings, transportation, digitalization, public safety, I mean, the list is extremely long. All those areas need reinvention. They need new technology. And they need new entrepreneurs. As you’ve quite rightly said, I’m a very active advocate, and actually an advisor in this space. And the opportunities are great, I would advise people to explore and and to support your comments. Look at it as a tremendous employment opportunity, and a business building opportunity.

Ian Khan
Yes. And I think one of the one of the many lessons that are coming out of this COVID-19 pandemic, is first of all, it’s it’s really big news, because it’s never happened in many, many generations. So we all are dealing with it. And we must learn from the disruption that it has caused. And think about, what can we create? That’s disruption proof. And that’s true entrepreneurship. So I’m, I am all for it. I love where this is going. We have a question. And I want to put that up. So lou is engaging. Incredibly, I love it. Lou says, Do you have any concerns about the extreme negative consequences of these technologies in the wrong hands, for example, China’s use of AI and so on and so forth. And I want to go back and also ask and talk about COVID-19 era, I do apologize, but we are living in that era. And it’s so relevant right now, of course, has also been a debate that apps that track you to figure out which areas have the pandemic and have you been affected? There’s many apps that have come out that governments are using to track people, we have to make a choice. Do you want to know if you’ve been affected? Worse is, hey, this encroaches on my privacy, help us understand what individuals should also think about when, you know, touching these technologies at a personal level. So first of all, let’s answer Lou’s question.

Jonathan Reichental
Yeah, so. So he asks about my concern about the negative consequences of technologies in the wrong hands. I mean, something we’ve learned as humans, anytime we build something or make something that has benefits, there’ll be some person or organization that will use it for for the wrong reasons. As as the technology gets more sophisticated, more global, the ability to cause harm grows, too. So yes, I have real concerns about that. We are dealing with these phenomena, the phenomena of new technologies, using old laws and regulations. So the rules have to catch up. We’re also involved in a significant global technology race. AI is at the forefront right now. You know, China wants to be dominant in this and and, and, and we’re working hard here in the US and Europe, they’re working hard. The countries or the country that dominates in AI, will have a significant advantage and could take, you know, extreme advantage of that in ways that would be not positive for for others. The other race that’s underway that we don’t call attention to is the race to quantum computing. Yeah, AI is awesome. But AI plus quantum that’s, that’s a new world that that’s a that’s a fourth industrial revolution, type, emergence. So no simple answers other than we have to be more conscious than ever before and have more rules. That makes sense, not not rules that, you know, limit innovation, because I’m against that, but let’s be aware that these new technologies are allowing all sorts of players to have new entry points. Getting into the privacy point. I am putting concern about privacy in smart cities and just cities in general. Because it’s not always the priority, right? It can come time sometimes come as an afterthought. So we’re embracing cities are embracing the sensors for things like counting traffic, which is, which is important. Things like air quality and noise detection. And the sensors are actually quite valuable. They’re going to help with autonomous vehicles and drones and other new technologies that start to come. But we’re so excited, and we’re so eager to deploy the technology, we’re sometimes lacking in the diligence we need around protecting people’s privacy. And that often comes later, but comes right. No cities need to be thinking about this right now. Like what are the pre emptive privacy policies and regulations that you need to put in place to be able to get all the advantages of this tech but but also protect people? The tracing the the COVID tracing? You know, hopefully this is temporary. I really do hope so. You know, we all have to ask ourselves, it’s feels a similar to maybe? Well, there’s a difference, of course, but but wearing masks is in the category of things we can do to help solve this crisis. If we do a few things, collectively, together, we can get beyond this crisis quicker. If we have holdouts, and people who just don’t agree with mask wearing or social distancing, we’re just attracting the problem. So that there is a there is a bit of energy behind, you know, let’s make sure these COVID apps are, are, are definitely protecting people in terms of their privacy, we got to do that. But let’s use things that help us get through this crisis quickly so we can get to the other side and get on with our lives.

Ian Khan
Thank you, Jonathan. Let’s go to the book. Yeah, we do. We do have a little bit of time. So I’ve gone through the book, I’ve browse to a lot of it. Read us something that you think pertains to the era right now, or a portion that’s, you know, that that is close to you, close to your heart?

Jonathan Reichental
Did you didn’t have a particular section in mind yourself?

Ian Khan
No, I like that this, the list of 10s that you have, here’s 10 things. Yeah, those are those are very nice and interest. Okay.

Jonathan Reichental
Let’s, let’s take a look at that. Just for the listeners and viewers. I’ll read a few of them out, and then I’ll choose one. So I’ve got two sections that are called the list of 10s are in fact, the dummy series calls it the, they call it the part of 10s. And you’ll find that in every dummies book, I got 10 Smart City, pitfalls to avoid. So these are things that cities should not do if they want to be successful. And the other one is how 10 waste cities will define our human future. And underneath that when I think I’ll do one there. So I’ve got things like most people will live, work and play their entire lives and cities. The increasing demands of sustainability will shape human behavior. Crime may be reduced significantly. I wish there was a voting system here that people could vote on what they’d like to hear. And let’s see. Let’s say the way people and goods move will continue to evolve. Let’s do that one. All right, that’s page 303. Let me go there. This is fun. This is my first virtual reading. Thank you for the opportunity. So I’ll try to it’s a relatively small. One of the most visible ways that cities are changing in front of your eyes is a number of new forms of transportation that are suddenly shuffling around people and goods. The roads and sidewalks of the urban world were ready replete with a variety of transportation modes, from motorized tucks to pulled rickshaws, from horses to rollerblades. And from convertibles to light rail. Humans have found a multitude of ways to get around. Culture, cost and geography in each city play a big role in shaping the options offered. It seems that we’re far from done. automobiles now dominating the city landscape are the cell are themselves in a period of change. increased interest in sustainability is literally driving the growth of electric powered vehicles. Still a niche, but rapidly expanding electric cars may dominate in the second half of the 21st century. Hydrogen as a fuel is also gaining interest and buyers. It’s gaining interested buyers, but it’s too early to know whether it will have long term traction, the emergence of self driving vehicles or turning the page I realize now this is a long section so maybe I won’t read it all I just read another paragraph or the are fully autonomous vehicles ABS Gathering speed. And all car manufacturers are betting on a vast a the future, it will be too narrow to consider a V’s only from the perspective of self driving, they have the potential to change everything from reduced congestion and accidents to insurance disruption and reinventing city design.

Ian Khan
Let me let me pause you for a second, I was going through the same set as myself, I really believe self driving cars, again, as you’ve written is such a tiny portion of of this entire transportation revolution that’s upon us. You’re looking at real trends as a transport and the transformation of that into electric powered or maglev powered or whatever powered, you’re looking at Hyperloop technologies that are coming in. Yeah, airlines industry is a very heavy fuel consuming industry. And that has to change as well. But how does? How do you use battery technology there and right, you’re flying and your battery finishes. And you’re like, Okay, I’ll see you later. Like, there’s many, many things that need to be figured out. And I’m just seeing all the opportunity in all these different areas. I want to give a shout out to the city of Dubai, and also to the UAE in general, in having a very progressive approach on urban transportation, I was lucky enough last year to work with the Regional Transportation Authority RTA on a workshop. And they are doing projections on the future of transportation by the year 2017 2017. And that is the centennial year for the UAE is 100 years, the formation of the UAE progressive governments are already looking at the next 50 to 100 years of where they will be right. So we’re not let’s My point is let’s stop looking at at what has happened. And look forward getting engaged with your city leaders get engaged in your industry, with thought leaders thinkers, there is just so much opportunity that you you’ve got tons of work to do entrepreneurs, and the sky’s the limit?

Jonathan Reichental
Yeah, I go even further. I do I write a lot about urban innovation and entrepreneurs and opportunity. But I also have a whole section on how anybody can get involved, right. So you know, if you’re a teenager and you’re fed up, you want to kind of help change your city. If you’re a, you know, an older person who’s retired and maybe wants to contribute, I actually discussed a lot of the ways that you can help meaningful ways and actual doable ways that you can help your city evolve and be better. So so that guidance is in there.

Ian Khan
Yes, we I want to put a question up as well. And thanks to all our attendees and viewers who, you know, make these things possible, nor says Norris join, she says, Hey, guys, good day, and this book is great in Smart Cities are absolutely awesome, self sufficient, and so on. But do you think this will be achieved soon? Like, when will the Smart Cities happen? I know you have a great answer for this. Jonathan.

Jonathan Reichental
You know, the couple of thoughts come to me when I when I think about this question. It’s a good it’s an important question. The first of all, can you imagine a day in which a city would be finished? Right? The notion that you build a city and you’re like, I’m done, we’re done. That doesn’t really exist, right? So cities are in a constant state of evolution. So I have a little bit of difficulty sort of thinking about, like, an endpoint to, to a smart city, right? I want to I think it’s a constant evolution. So you know, a wave of new innovation, like IoT, and autonomous vehicles and drones and, you know, sent different ways to ensure that, you know, we’ve no leaks and our water systems, those will happen. And then probably within a decade or two, another wave of new technology, maybe powered by quantum and, and the touchless economy will emerge. So there isn’t really sort of a an achievement date, right there there is this idea of, you know, ensuring that we we are able to address current concerns and also invest in the future. The important thing, and I think maybe this is what you were alluding to, when you said I had the right answer, or I had an answer for it, is that smart city missions and visions are specific to each city. Right. And that’s an important point. You and that’s why it’s difficult, by the way to have standards and even a benchmark because what’s important to Bangalore in terms of what their needs are to increase the quality of life. The needs of Bangalore might be very different from Dubai, which might be very different from Moscow in Russia, or Melbourne in Australia, right? So what are those those sort of the goal of reaching or trying to achieve smart city? smart and sustainable objectives is going to be very dependent. Yeah, so so maybe you know, for the question, it’s a great question. It’s let’s pick, let’s pick a city, right, like so if you’re, if you’re talking about, you know, Delhi, when will Delhi Be smart? Well, let’s first define what that means. Let’s, let’s look at the journey. And so it really depends on the city, it depends we’re trying to achieve, and ultimately, it will be ongoing.

Ian Khan
We’re also it’s also very important. And this is going back to the session we had a couple of months ago, Jonathan on smart cities, and we had other participants in that live stream. You know, city of Amsterdam, was was one of the participants. And we heard, you know, the Smart City index, we had somebody from, from that index, who talked about how much you know where that index is, and how smart are some of the cities. So I it’s a process, and those are some really incredible resources to look back at. And viewers today can go back to our my live stream history and look at look at the one on smart cities and try and understand that it’s much more complex than just reaching a goal. As you said, Jonathan, but but reaching a state a consensus on certain things and then continuing to build, I want to ask you about buying How important is it for cities to have a vision and to the buy in from different parties involved? Do you talk about that book a

Jonathan Reichental
little? I do I do. Now, you have to remember, I’m a practitioner, I did this, right. Yeah, I did this for a living. So I’m not coming from a place of theory, or just, you know, went to a library and sort of research this. I actually did this work. And I’m not only going to do do with city and Palo Alto, and Silicon Valley, but I helped cities all over the world. So I saw common challenges. I saw what worked well, what didn’t work well. And yes, I The goal was to put this in a book so that everybody could benefit from the experiences of cities around the world. Probably at the top of the list of that journey, when the city decides, you know what we need to begin to apply new technologies, we need to reinvent how we’re doing things when they start that mission. And that that really is the journey to a smarter and more sustainable community. It really begins with leadership. And I talk a lot about this, who is the who are the leaders who will champion this, the apps, by the way, the absence of leadership is is the beginning of the recipe for failure. Right? If you don’t have one, at least, or you should have multiple champions who are in a leadership position in your city, there’s a good chance it’ll add, at best it’ll, it’ll bump along, at worst, it’ll fail. So it starts with leadership. And then you have to have engagement, you have to have community engagement. So that that question of buying, Oh, it’s so huge. So and I learned this, with the things we did badly, and I learned it with the things we did well, you need to get old voices, as best you can at the table. And the good news is now with a you know, now that we’re collaborating online, and we were beginning to do that, anyway, you can bring in lots of different voices, you know, from not only from your city, but even outside stakeholders and academics and and, you know, smart people who’ve done this before. You should have a groups of people, committees and groups of stakeholders who meet regularly and help to steer the project, the Smart City effort, smart city vision. So I can’t it’s hard for me to think of, you know, something else in the top three that would you know, beyond making sure that a buy in is fully addressed early on.

Ian Khan
If there were city Johnson that you would ask and we’re heading towards the end of our time here. I would love to talk continue talking to you. But but I think you have other things scheduled. And we can do this again, in Bali, as well as a part two in a series. If there were a city that you can help our viewers understand, to follow to look at to study, what would be some of the top cities that are your favorites when it comes to on city development?

Jonathan Reichental
You know, it takes many forms. And I have an appendix in the book that lists a lot of cities around the world on every continent. I think except for Antarctica, that, you know, personify Good work. And, you know, it gives good examples. You know, so you might think, for example, that I’m going to talk about a city that’s really tech centric. Well look at, for example, some of the work being done in Mexico City, to convert highways into parks, that’s pretty smart people need more green, we need more trees, or what we call urban forests. You know, that’s good just for the air and for also, by the way for reducing heat. But people like to go with their families to these green areas, and city cities with big green spaces and parks, are healthier cities. So you know, Mexico City has a plan and they’re moving on the way to pedestrian eyes and, and put parks into where there were big arteries, big transportation arteries. To me, I like that, look, look at what they’re doing. Mexico City very, very smart. You know, you can look at, for example, Rio, and where you have poorer people living in the favelas in the hills. And one of the reasons why they continue to be in poverty is they can’t reach areas of employment, because it’s too far away. So they’ve been putting in place these gondolas to allow people to quickly get from the favelas, to areas of employment. That’s smart. I think that’s really cool.

Ian Khan
Jonathan, sorry, one of the things that I want to also reinforce is that a smart city is not necessarily the, you know, the over installation of technology in a city, it’s definitely connected to it. But one of the things that comes to my mind, you know, going back to my favorite city of Dubai, is things such as the Emirates government service excellence program that you and I are both kind of we touch upon, and the fact that governance has to have a strategy and a philosophy of being the number one you’ve got to, and then technology can play a part in, in executing that vision. My question to you is, what’s your comment? And we’re finishing soon? What’s your comment on technology, non technology, non technology and creating a smart city?

Jonathan Reichental
Well, to be brief, a couple of things, first of all, and engage community. So you know, I make this point, and a lot of my teaching a lot of my writings is the future is not a spectator sport. You know, the, the future is about participation. And people have now the ability to be engaged in the community. So smarter communities are those where people are active. People are embracing their democracy. They’re, they’re contributing to ideas and contributing to debates, and you see that in communities all around the world. That’s, that’s a big one. governance, I’m glad you brought that up again, cuz I realized you asked me that earlier. And I didn’t answer it. good governance, you know, the United Nations writes about this a lot about the value of good governance that that enables a more peaceful, less violent, more Kinder community when you have structures in place with enforcement, and with people who respect the processes. So you know, you we need to have cities that are engaging for people and people who are prepared to step up and be active.

Ian Khan
Incredible, Jonathan, hey, I can’t thank you enough time has flown by the last hour has just gone by. and Andre says put in a comment there. It’s up on the screen about mobile. But there’s a revolution happening everywhere. And your book, I believe, is has happened at the right time. In the right era, we all need to read this book cover to cover multiple times, make notes, and share that knowledge with people in our community at our work in our department in our group. Because I think collectively, if we all are on the same page, we can understand the vision that we are chasing or our cities chasing or communities chasing. It just helps create better business do things in a different way. Jonathan, I cannot thank you enough for being part of the future readiness live stream that we’ve had today about smart cities. Congratulations again, on one incredible book and working with Wiley and coming out with this. We are we’re looking forward to get looking at more books from you, by the way, so finished yet. Help us help our viewers with your online courses where they are available. I know you’re doing a ton of them and they’re all going what topics are they on? Where can I find them And where can we find you?

Jonathan Reichental
Okay, thanks. Thank you for that. No, again, the and thank you so much for doing this. And for giving me the platform, particularly in Canada, to share my insights and thoughts. I wrote this book, to be a tool to be an educational platform. That was my driver. And so I’m so thrilled that it’s a bestseller and people are embracing it. In Canada, you can find it on you know, Amazon’s Canada site. But you can also find it in your popular or, you know, local store as well, it’s it should be in bookstores all over Canada as well. If you would like a signed copy for me, I have, I can do that I can arrange that directly. So just reach out to me, and I’m happy to sign a copy and send it to you. The way you can do that I’m very active on Twitter. As you can see, with my Twitter handle there on LinkedIn, you can get me on LinkedIn. And you can also see my writing intel.com website where you can get get in touch with me as well. I do a lot of online training. That’s true, particularly with LinkedIn learning. So if you have a LinkedIn account with premium access, or you have a LinkedIn learning account, you can see my courses on there everything from one of your favorites in blockchain, to quantum data governance and of course, smart cities. I just completed and released a new course on x as a service. Everything as a service is the future of business. And that’s doing really well too. So that’s a few ways I write for Forbes, you can see my articles and Forbes media as well. And well, thank you again, thank you for this platform, and it’s really great to be here.

Ian Khan
It’s been my pleasure Johnson and your website is reichental.com Is that correct?

Jonathan Reichental
That’s right. That’s just my last name dot com,

Ian Khan
rockin tall, calm, folks. Please buy a copy of smart cities for dummies and send Jonathan emails and congratulating him on an incredible job that he’s done. Thank you, everybody for joining us online on this live stream. A recorded version will be available forever to be watched on YouTube and other platforms for now saying goodbye to all the viewers and Jonathan you hang in there. Saying goodbye to all the viewers. This is Ian Khan. Check me out on Ian khan.com and the work I do. And thank you so much Johnson and we wish you all the best. Thank you

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Hi and welcome to a new episode of the Ian Khan Show. In this week I am pleased to have fellow Futurist Anders Sorman-Nilsson to the show. About Anders Anders Sörman-Nilsson (LLB / EMBA) is a global futurist and innovation strategist who helps leaders decode trends, decipher what’s next and turn provocative questions into proactive strategies.

With an average of 240 international travel days a year, Anders’ view is that the future and the now are converging in a city or start-up near you, giving the curious, the creative and the courageous a competitive and sustainable edge. At the same time, that same future contains fearsome forecasts for futurephobes.

This Swedish-Australian futurist has shared stage with Hillary Clinton, Nobel Laureates, and European and Australian heads of state. He is an active member of TEDGlobal, has keynoted at TEDx in the United States and Australia, was nominated to the World Economic Forum’s Young Global Leaders in 2015, and was the keynote speaker at the G20’s Y20 Summit in Australia. His presentations are meticulously researched, highly energetic and always fascinating with content tailored to the audience, which is why clients like Apple, Cisco, Mercedes Benz, Hilton, SAP, Gartner and Macquarie Bank have turned to Anders over the years to help them turn research into foresight and business impact. His thought leadership has been featured in international media like Monocle, Business Insider, Sky News Business, Financial Review, CIO Magazine and Boss.

He is the author of the books Seamless: a hero’s journey of digital disruption, adaptation and human transformation (Wiley, 2017), Digilogue: how to win the digital minds and analogue hearts of tomorrow’s customers (Wiley, 2013) and Thinque Funky: Upgrade Your Thinking (Thinque, 2009).

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This week on the Ian Khan show I spoke to Moon Ribas. Both Moon and I are contributors to the recent book “After Shock”

Who is Moon Ribas ?

Moon Ribas is a Catalan avant-garde artist and cyborg activist best known for developing the Seismic Sense, an online seismic sensor once implanted in her feet that allowed her to perceive earthquakes taking place anywhere in the planet through vibrations in real time. In order to share her experience, she then translated her seismic sense on stage. Ribas transposed the earthquakes into either sound, in her piece Seismic Percussion; or dance, in Waiting For Earthquakes. In these performances the Earth is the composer and the choreographer; and Ribas, the interpreter. Ribas’ seismic sense also allowed her to feel moonquakes, the seismic activity on the Moon. Ribas believes that by extending our senses to perceive outside the planet, we can all become senstronauts. Adding this new sense allowed her to be physically on Earth while her feet felt the Moon, so in a way, she was on Earth and space at the same time. Since 2007 Moon has been experimenting with the union between technology and her body to explore the boundaries of perception and to experience movement in a deeper way. Some of her previous research includes transdental communication, 360º perception and the Speedborg. In 2010 she co-founded the Cyborg Foundation, an international organisation that aims to help people become cyborgs, defend cyborg rights and promote cyborg art. Ribas also co-founded the Transpecies Society in 2017, an association that gives voice to non-human identities, defends the freedom of self-design and offers the creation of new senses and new organs in community.

After Shock Episodes

Alan Kay, Aaron Frank, Adrienne Mayor, Alexander Mankowsky, Alexandra Ivanovitch, Alisha Bhagat, Amy Zalman, Anders Sorman-Nilsson, Andra Keay, Andrew Curry, Andy Hines, Anita Sengupta, Anne Lise Kjaer, Aris Persidis, Aubrey de Grey, Barry O’Reilly, Barry Vacker, Bill Davidow, Bill Diamond, Bryan Alexander, Byron Reese, Carlos Osorio, Carver Mead, Cat Tully, Cindy Frewen, Clem Bezold, Daniel Burrus, Daniel Levine, David Brin, David Guston, David Krakauer, David J. Staley, David Weinberger, Deb Westphal, Diane M. Francis, Donna Dupont, Eleanor “Nell” Watson, Eric Daimler, Erica Bol, Erik Qualman, Fotis Sotiropoulos, George Gilder, Grady Booch, Gray Scott, Hannes Sjoblad, Harish Natarajan, Hazel Henderson, Helen Messier, Ian Khan, Ignacio Pena, Jack Uldrich, James Canton, Jane McGonigal, Jason Jackson, Jason Schenker, Jay Gambetta, Jeff Eisenach, Jeffrey C. Bauer, Jerome Glenn , Jerry Fishenden, Joe Dispenza, Joe Tankersley, Joel Garreau, John L. Petersen, John M. Smart, John Sack, John Sanei, John Schroeter, Jonathan Venn, José Morey, Kaitlyn Sadtler, Kirk Borne, Klee Irwin, Kris Østergaard, Lisa Bodell , Maciej Kranz, Martin Guigui, Martin Rees, Maggie Greyson, Michael Tomczyk, Michel Laberge, Mick Ebeling, Moon Ribas, Naveen Jain, Neil Jacobstein, Newt Gingrich, Patricia Lustig & Gill Ringland, Paul Saffo, Paul Stimers, Po Bronson & Arvind Gupta, Ray Kurzweil, Rebecca Costa, Richard Browning, Richard Slaughter, Richard Watson, Richard Yonck, Rodrigo Nieto Gómez, Rohit Bhargava, Ross Dawson, Ruth Miller, Sanjiv Chopra & Pankaj K Vij, Sohail Inayatullah, Sridhar Mahadevan , Stan Rosen Stephanie Mehta , Steve Waite , Tanya Accone, Terrence (Terry) Sejnowski , Teun Koetsier , Theodore Jay Gordon , Thomas Frey , Timothy Chou , Vikram Mansharamani, Wolfgang Fengler, Zoltan Istvan

After Shock Publication Details

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I recently had the pleasure of speaking with Bill Diamond, President & CEO of SETI. Both of us have had the opportunity to be collaborators, among others, to the recent book “After Shock”.

This is our conversation about life beyond earth.

Bio

Bill Diamond is President and CEO of the SETI Institute, which he joined in 2015. He has worked predominantly in applied technologies with over 20 years’ experience in photonics and optical communications, and more than a decade in X-ray and semiconductor processing technologies. His corporate background spans the spectrum from venture-backed start-ups to Fortune 100 multinationals, with responsibilities ranging from R&D, engineering and operations, to sales, marketing, product management, and CEO positions.

Most recently, Bill was Vice President of Sales for Oclaro, Inc. where he led the company’s penetration in optical networking of the rapidly evolving Web 2.0 Data Center market. Prior to that, he was Vice President of Product Management for optical amplifiers, ROADM, high bit-rate modules, and micro-optics. Bill held CEO positions at WaveSplitter Technologies, DenseLight Semiconductor, and Xradia, Inc., now part of Zeiss.

His photonics background also includes six years with AT&T Bell Laboratory’s Optoelectronics business unit and he served as President of US operations for the Swiss technology company, Comet A.G. Bill holds a B.A. in Physics from Holy Cross College and a Master’s in Business Administration from Georgetown University. He is a past member of the Advisory Board for the McDonough School of Business Administration at Georgetown and is a current member of the Optical Society of America and the International Astronomical Congress.

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This week I speak with co-collaborator and contributor to “After Shock”, Rohit Bhargava. Rohit Bhargava believes the world needs more non-obvious thinking.

He is an innovation and marketing expert, skilled facilitator, and keynote speaker. After a successful 15 year career as a brand and marketing strategist at two of the largest agencies in the world (Ogilvy and Leo Burnett), Rohit became an entrepreneur and has since started three companies, including the Non-Obvious Company where he is currently the Founder and Chief Trend Curator. He is the Wall Street Journal best selling author of six books on topics as wide ranging as the future of business and building a brand with personality and has delivered sold out keynote presentations and workshops to business leaders in 32 countries. His signature book Non-Obvious has been read and shared by more than 1 million readers and is translated in ten languages. Rohit has been invited to share his insights at some of the most forward-looking organizations in the world including Intel, NASA, Disney, JP Morgan Chase, LinkedIn, Microsoft, American Express, BP, the World Bank, Coca-Cola and hundreds of others. Outside of his consulting work, Rohit also teaches his popular signature course on storytelling and marketing at Georgetown University in Washington DC and has been invited to deliver guest lectures at many other prestigious schools including Stanford and Wharton. For the past 16 years Rohit has also been writing his personal “Influential Marketing Blog” which has been featured in global media and named one of the top 25 marketing blogs in the world by AdAge magazine. He is regularly interviewed and featured as an expert commentator in global media including Harvard Business Review, The Guardian, and NPR. Rohit also writes a monthly column for GQ magazine in Brazil on technology and trends. Thanks to his many years of sharing insights, Rohit has been recognized alongside visionary business leaders like Sir Richard Branson and Tom Peters as a “Top 100 Thought Leader In Trustworthy Business Behavior” and was named by global recruiting firm Korn Ferry as one of the “Most Influential South Asians In Media and Entertainment.” On a personal level, Rohit is married and lives with his wife and two young boys in the Washington DC area. He is a lifelong fan of anything having to do with the Olympics (he’s been to five so far and headed to Tokyo soon!) and actively avoids anything having to do with cauliflower (yuck!). Outside of work, Rohit believes that the most entertaining and impactful job he will ever have is being a great dad and teaching his sons to be kind when no one expects it, curious about the things others take for granted, and confident enough to change the world.

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This week I have the pleasure of speaking with Nell Watson, a globally recognized Educator, AI Researcher and Thought Leader.

In her own words,

My career in technology and entrepreneurship stems from a great early-age foundation I got from my engineer dad. Although life went somewhat off the rails after his death when I was 11, I got back on track later; by the age of 24, I was already teaching post-grad computer science. Soon afterwards I ventured into entrepreneurship, in various projects and ventures, in pursuit of lasting beneficial impact in the world.

In the process of maturing as an entrepreneur I have drifted into being a sought-after public speaker, facilitating a great many workshops, and delivering digestible yet informative lectures on emerging technologies to diverse audiences internationally.

As a keynote speaker, I have presented for Ericsson, Credit Suisse, MIT and many others. I have taught and presented in India, Morocco, Chile, Brazil, the Nordics, the United Kingdom and across America.

I have built a track record as being insightful, imaginative, and broadly-aware, as well as an effective communicator and mentor, who can make complex subjects able to be understood by all. My work is regularly covered by Wired, BBC, The Guardian, Forbes, Vice, and others.

I have a core belief that technology can (and should) be leveraged to free us from the saddest aspects of the human condition. It is this same wellspring of passion that I seek to ignite within others.

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Welcome to a fresh new episode of the Ian Khan Show. This weeks episode is a conversion with Dr. Parag Khanna.

About Parag Khanna

Parag Khanna is a leading global strategy advisor, world traveler, and best-selling author. He is Founder & Managing Partner of FutureMap, a data and scenario based strategic advisory firm. Parag’s newest book is The Future is Asian: Commerce, Conflict & Culture in the 21st Century (2019). He is author of a trilogy of books on the future of world order beginning with The Second World: Empires and Influence in the New Global Order (2008), followed by How to Run the World: Charting a Course to the Next Renaissance (2011), and concluding with Connectography: Mapping the Future of Global Civilization (2016). He is also author of Technocracy in America: Rise of the Info-State (2017) and co-author of Hybrid Reality: Thriving in the Emerging Human-Technology Civilization (2012). His books have been translated into more than twenty languages. Parag was named one of Esquire’s “75 Most Influential People of the 21st Century,” and featured in WIRED magazine’s “Smart List.”

Parag has been an adviser to the US National Intelligence Council’s Global Trends 2030 program. From 2013-2018 he was a Senior Research Fellow in the Centre on Asia and Globalisation at the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy at the National University of Singapore. From 2006-2015, he was a Senior Research Fellow at the New America Foundation. During 2007, he served in Iraq and Afghanistan as a senior geopolitical adviser to United States Special Operations Forces. From 2002-5, he was the Global Governance Fellow at the Brookings Institution; from 2000-2002, he worked at the World Economic Forum in Geneva; and from 1999-2000, he was a Research Associate at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York.

A widely cited global intellectual, Dr. Khanna provides regular commentaries for international media. His 2008 cover story for the New York Times Magazine titled “Waving Goodbye to Hegemony,” is one of the most globally debated and influential essays since the end of the Cold War. In addition to his columns as a CNN Global Contributor, Khanna’s articles have appeared in major international publications such as the Wall Street Journal, Financial Times, Washington Post, Harvard Business Review, TIME, Foreign Affairs, Axios, Forbes, The Atlantic, Quartz, Foreign Policy, Harper’s, BusinessWeek, The Guardian, The National Interest, McKinsey Quarterly, The American Interest, Stratfor, Esquire, Slate.com, and Die Zeit. He is a contributing editor to WorldPost and serves on the editorial board of Global Policy.

Dr. Khanna also appears frequently in media around the world such as CNN, BBC, CNBC, Al Jazeera and other broadcasters. In 2010, he became the first video-blogger for ForeignPolicy.com and from 2010-12, co-authored the Hybrid Reality blog on BigThink. From 2008-9, Parag was the host of “InnerView” on MTV. He was a consultant to the National Geographic series Origins. Khanna spoke at TED in 2016, TED Global 2009, was a guest host of TEDGlobal 2012, and lead speaker at TEDxGateway in 2018. His TED talks have been viewed more than three million times. The maps customized for Dr. Khanna’s books have been displayed in numerous prestigious international art exhibitions.

Born in India, Parag grew up in the United Arab Emirates, New York, and Germany. He is an accomplished adventurer who has traveled to nearly 150 countries on all continents. Some of his lengthy journeys include driving from the Baltic Sea through the Balkans and across Turkey and the Caucasus to the Caspian Sea, across the rugged terrain of Tibet and Xinjiang provinces in western China, and ten thousand kilometers from London to Ulaanbaatar in the Mongolia Charity Rally. He has climbed numerous 20,000-foot plus peaks, and trekked in the Alps, Himalayas, and Tien Shan mountain ranges. Parag is also a competitive tennis player.

Parag has been honored as a Young Global Leader of the World Economic Forum and has served on the WEF’s Global Future Council on Mobility, Global Agenda Council on Geoeconomics, and advisory board of its Future of Urban Development Initiative. He also serves on the board of trustees of the New Cities Foundation, Council of the American Geographical Society, advisory board of Independent Diplomat. He is a former term member of the Council on Foreign Relations, International Institute for Strategic Studies, and a Fellow of the Royal Geographical Society. In 2002, he was awarded the OECD Future Leaders Prize. He speaks German, Hindi, French, Spanish and basic Arabic.

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Welcome to a new episode of the Ian Khan Show.

In this episode i interview Dr. Jonathan Venn. Dr. Venn is a contributor to After Shock and has been a clinical psychologist for over 49 years. Dr. Venn has 49 years of experience providing psychological services.

In that time he has been a military officer, served for four years on the staff of a Fortune 500 Corporation, served on the staffs or faculties of six universities, was employed by three State agencies, owned his own practice for 23 years, held State and federal contracts and retired from two State governments : California & South Carolina. He is licensed to practice Psychology in California and in three other States. He has conducted 10,000 psychological evaluations for courts and agencies and has testified under oath in litigated proceedings on 200 occasions.

Dr. Venn began his career by working in Veterans Hospitals during the Vietnam War. He has four decades of experience in helping people adjust to severe stress including the stress of combat. He has studied many therapeutic techniques including Internal Family Systems, hypnosis, mindfulness and cognitive behavior therapy.

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In this episode of the Ian Khan show I spoke with Dr. Jose Morey M.D.

Also known as the worlds first intergalactic doctor, Jose has an incredible bio and experiences. he is alsoa contributor to “After Shock” along with more than 50 of the worlds top futurists.

About

JOSÉ MOREY, MD., IS the Chief Medical Innovation Officer for Liberty BioSecurity where he helps drive innovation across world leading multidisciplinary teams that sit at the epicenter of genetic intelligence, national defense biotechnologies, precision medicine and augmented human performance. Previous to this, Dr. Morey served as Associated Chief Health Officer for IBM Watson Health leading enterprise wide research collaborations with partners across the globe to develop AI medical breakthroughs. José also serves as Chief Engineering Council in charge of Innovation for Hyperloop Transportation Technologies and the Medical Technology and Artificial Intelligence Adviser for NASA iTech, which is an incubator created to identify and develop novel biotechnology to meet the 2030 Mars Mission objectives and deep space exploration. He holds an adjunct professorship of Radiology and Biomedical Imaging at the University of Virginia and at Eastern Virginia Medical School. Dr. Morey has consulted with various companies and healthcare systems throughout his career to help create and train their deep learning algorithms and neural networks to create intelligent systems in healthcare and aerospace. He sits on several AI advisory boards and has over 50 peer reviewed publications, presentations and lectures. He sits on the Informatics Leadership Council for the American College of Radiology.

He has given talks to NASA360, the Radiologic Society of North America, HIIMS, Academy Health, Health Datapalooza, Tech.Co, Frost & Sullivan Executive MindXchange, Stifel Nicolaus Healthcare Investment Conference, the Chinese Medical Association and the Senate of the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico.

About After Shock

The world’s foremost futurists reflect on 50 years of Future Shock—and look ahead to the next 50 Contributors include: Alan Kay Aaron Frank Adrienne Mayor Alexander Mankowsky Alexandra Ivanovitch Alisha Bhagat Amy Zalman Anders Sorman-Nilsson Andra Keay Andrew Curry Andy Hines Anita Sengupta Anne Lise Kjaer Aris Persidis Aubrey de Grey Barry O’Reilly Barry Vacker Bill Davidow Bill Diamond Bryan Alexander Byron Reese Carlos Osorio Carver Mead Cat Tully Cindy Frewen Clem Bezold Daniel Burrus Daniel Levine David Brin David Guston David Krakauer David J. Staley David Weinberger Deb Westphal Diane M. Francis Donna Dupont Eleanor “Nell” Watson Eric Daimler Erica Bol Erik Qualman Fotis Sotiropoulos George Gilder Grady Booch Gray Scott Hannes Sjoblad Harish Natarajan Hazel Henderson Helen Messier Ian Khan Ignacio Pena Jack Uldrich James Canton Jane McGonigal Jason Jackson Jason Schenker Jay Gambetta Jeff Eisenach Jeffrey C. Bauer Jerome Glenn Jerry Fishenden Joe Dispenza Joe Tankersley Joel Garreau John L. Petersen John M. Smart John Sack John Sanei John Schroeter Jonathan Venn José Morey Kaitlyn Sadtler Kirk Borne Klee Irwin Kris Østergaard Lisa Bodell Maciej Kranz Martin Guigui Martin Rees Maggie Greyson Michael Tomczyk Michel Laberge Mick Ebeling Moon Ribas Naveen Jain Neil Jacobstein Newt Gingrich Patricia Lustig & Gill Ringland Paul Saffo Paul Stimers Po Bronson & Arvind Gupta Ray Kurzweil Rebecca Costa Richard Browning Richard Slaughter Richard Watson Richard Yonck Rodrigo Nieto Gómez Rohit Bhargava Ross Dawson Ruth Miller Sanjiv Chopra & Pankaj K Vij Sohail Inayatullah Sridhar Mahadevan Stan Rosen Stephanie Mehta Steve Waite Tanya Accone Terrence (Terry) Sejnowski Teun Koetsier Theodore Jay Gordon Thomas Frey Timothy Chou Vikram Mansharamani Wolfgang Fengler Zoltan Istvan

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Welcome to a new episode of the Ian Khan Show.

In this special “After Shock” series, I am interviewing with one of the world’s Top 50 futurists. This week I am speaking with Dr. Aris Persidis.

About Aris Persidis

Dr. Persidis is President and co-founder of Biovista. He has also served as Senior Vice President at Upstate/Serologicals, Managing Director and President of RHeoGene, and Assistant Director-Medical School Technology Transfer Program – and Assistant Professor (Adjunct) at the Entrepreneurial Center of the Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania (1993-1997). Dr. Persidis is also a co-founder of Cellzome, in Heidelberg, Germany, and participated in the founding of Anadys, San Diego, CA. Dr. Persidis is a recipient of the Honeywell European Futurist Award (1986) and has published extensively on bio-business subjects. In 1997-2000 he authored the monthly “Industry Trends” column for the journal Nature Biotechnology. He has published more than 80 papers and book chapters, has lectured at Wharton, the Columbia Business School, George Washington University and the University of Auckland Business School, and is a frequent speaker at major international meetings. He also serves as an expert evaluator for the European Union and has served on the Business Development Committee of BIO. Dr. Persidis holds a First Class B.Sc. Degree in biological chemistry from Essex University, U.K. (1983-1986), and a Ph.D. in biochemistry from the University of Cambridge, U.K. (1986-1989), where he was also U.K. varsity ballroom dancing champion. #rebeccacosta #futureshock #abundantworldinstitute @AfterShock2020 #futureshockat50 About After Shock The world’s foremost futurists reflect on 50 years of Future Shock—and look ahead to the next 50 Contributors include: Alan Kay Aaron Frank Adrienne Mayor Alexander Mankowsky Alexandra Ivanovitch Alisha Bhagat Amy Zalman Anders Sorman-Nilsson Andra Keay Andrew Curry Andy Hines Anita Sengupta Anne Lise Kjaer Aris Persidis Aubrey de Grey Barry O’Reilly Barry Vacker Bill Davidow Bill Diamond Bryan Alexander Byron Reese Carlos Osorio Carver Mead Cat Tully Cindy Frewen Clem Bezold Daniel Burrus Daniel Levine David Brin David Guston David Krakauer David J. Staley David Weinberger Deb Westphal Diane M. Francis Donna Dupont Eleanor “Nell” Watson Eric Daimler Erica Bol Erik Qualman Fotis Sotiropoulos George Gilder Grady Booch Gray Scott Hannes Sjoblad Harish Natarajan Hazel Henderson Helen Messier Ian Khan Ignacio Pena Jack Uldrich James Canton Jane McGonigal Jason Jackson Jason Schenker Jay Gambetta Jeff Eisenach Jeffrey C. Bauer Jerome Glenn Jerry Fishenden Joe Dispenza Joe Tankersley Joel Garreau John L. Petersen John M. Smart John Sack John Sanei John Schroeter Jonathan Venn José Morey Kaitlyn Sadtler Kirk Borne Klee Irwin Kris Østergaard Lisa Bodell Maciej Kranz Martin Guigui Martin Rees Maggie Greyson Michael Tomczyk Michel Laberge Mick Ebeling Moon Ribas Naveen Jain Neil Jacobstein Newt Gingrich Patricia Lustig & Gill Ringland Paul Saffo Paul Stimers Po Bronson & Arvind Gupta Ray Kurzweil Rebecca Costa Richard Browning Richard Slaughter Richard Watson Richard Yonck Rodrigo Nieto Gómez Rohit Bhargava Ross Dawson Ruth Miller Sanjiv Chopra & Pankaj K Vij Sohail Inayatullah Sridhar Mahadevan Stan Rosen Stephanie Mehta Steve Waite Tanya Accone Terrence (Terry) Sejnowski Teun Koetsier Theodore Jay Gordon Thomas Frey Timothy Chou Vikram Mansharamani Wolfgang Fengler Zoltan Istvan

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Welcome to a new episode of the Ian Khan Show. In this special “After Shock” series, I am interviewing with one of the world’s Top 50 futurists.

This week I am speaking to Rebecca D Costa.

Rebecca D. Costa is an American sociobiologist and futurist. She is the preeminent global expert on the subject of “fast adaptation” and recipient of the prestigious Edward O. Wilson Biodiversity Technology Award. Her career spans four decades of working with founders, executives and leading venture capitalists in Silicon Valley.

Costa’s work has been featured in the New York Times, Washington Post, USA Today, The Guardian, and other leading publications. She presently serves on the Advisory Committee for the Lifeboat Foundation along with futurist Ray Kurzweil and Nobel Laureates Daniel Kahneman, Eric S. Maskin, Richard J. Roberts and Wole Soyinka. Costa was the founder and CEO of one of the largest technology marketing firms in California, where she developed an extensive track record of launching game-changing technologies. Her clients included industry innovators such as Hewlett-Packard, Apple Computer, Oracle, Siebel Systems, General Electric, 3M and others. She has been on the forefront of technological and scientific innovation, assisting venture capitalists and large corporations to identify, fund and launch disruptive new trends. Retiring at the zenith of her career in Silicon Valley, Costa spent six years researching and writing the international bestseller The Watchman’s Rattle: A Radical New Theory of Collapse. Her follow-on book, titled On the Verge was introduced in 2017 to critical acclaim, shooting to the top of Amazon’s #1 New Business Releases. The success of The Watchman’s Rattle led to a popular weekly news program called The Costa Report which was syndicated throughout the United States by the Genesis Communications Network until 2018. Owing to global pressures to respond more rapidly and efficiently to the accelerating pace of change, Costa is a popular international speaker. She brings both an evolutionary biologist and technologist’s perspective to the subject of adaptation. Costa is currently represented by the American Program Bureau and the Scott Meredith Literary Agency. A global thinker in the mold of Alvin Toffler, Jared Diamond, Ray Kurzweil and Thomas Friedman, Costa attributes her ability to see the “big picture” to her cross-cultural education and upbringing. Raised in Tokyo, Japan, and Vientiane, Laos, during the Vietnam conflict, Costa brings a unique perspective to the everyday challenges of work and life. Rebecca Costa is an alumnus of the University of California at Santa Barbara and currently resides in Astoria, Oregon. #rebeccacosta #futureshock #abundantworldinstitute @AfterShock2020 #futureshockat50 About After Shock The world’s foremost futurists reflect on 50 years of Future Shock—and look ahead to the next 50 Contributors include: Alan Kay Aaron Frank Adrienne Mayor Alexander Mankowsky Alexandra Ivanovitch Alisha Bhagat Amy Zalman Anders Sorman-Nilsson Andra Keay Andrew Curry Andy Hines Anita Sengupta Anne Lise Kjaer Aris Persidis Aubrey de Grey Barry O’Reilly Barry Vacker Bill Davidow Bill Diamond Bryan Alexander Byron Reese Carlos Osorio Carver Mead Cat Tully Cindy Frewen Clem Bezold Daniel Burrus Daniel Levine David Brin David Guston David Krakauer David J. Staley David Weinberger Deb Westphal Diane M. Francis Donna Dupont Eleanor “Nell” Watson Eric Daimler Erica Bol Erik Qualman Fotis Sotiropoulos George Gilder Grady Booch Gray Scott Hannes Sjoblad Harish Natarajan Hazel Henderson Helen Messier Ian Khan Ignacio Pena Jack Uldrich James Canton Jane McGonigal Jason Jackson Jason Schenker Jay Gambetta Jeff Eisenach Jeffrey C. Bauer Jerome Glenn Jerry Fishenden Joe Dispenza Joe Tankersley Joel Garreau John L. Petersen John M. Smart John Sack John Sanei John Schroeter Jonathan Venn José Morey Kaitlyn Sadtler Kirk Borne Klee Irwin Kris Østergaard Lisa Bodell Maciej Kranz Martin Guigui Martin Rees Maggie Greyson Michael Tomczyk Michel Laberge Mick Ebeling Moon Ribas Naveen Jain Neil Jacobstein Newt Gingrich Patricia Lustig & Gill Ringland Paul Saffo Paul Stimers Po Bronson & Arvind Gupta Ray Kurzweil Rebecca Costa Richard Browning Richard Slaughter Richard Watson Richard Yonck Rodrigo Nieto Gómez Rohit Bhargava Ross Dawson Ruth Miller Sanjiv Chopra & Pankaj K Vij Sohail Inayatullah Sridhar Mahadevan Stan Rosen Stephanie Mehta Steve Waite Tanya Accone Terrence (Terry) Sejnowski Teun Koetsier Theodore Jay Gordon Thomas Frey Timothy Chou Vikram Mansharamani Wolfgang Fengler Zoltan Istvan

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Welcome to a new episode of the Ian Khan Show.

In this special “After Shock” series, I am interviewing with one of the world’s Top 50 futurists. This week I am speaking to Jerome Glenn, a globally recognised Futurist, Author, Change Maker and Founder of the Millennium Project.

About Jerome Glenn

Jerome C. Glenn is the co-founder (1996) and CEO of The Millennium Project (on global futures research) and lead-author with Elizabeth Florescu, and The Millennium Project Team of the State of the Future 19.1 report of The Millennium Project and 18 other State of the Future reports for the past twenty years. He was the Washington, DC representative for the United Nations University as executive director of the American Council for the UNU 1988-2007. He has over 40 years of Futures Research experience working for governments, international organizations, and private industry in Science & Technology Policy, Environmental Security, Economics, Education, Defense, Space, Futures Research Methodology, International Telecommunications, and Decision Support Systems with the Committee for the Future, Hudson Institute, Future Options Room, and the Millennium Project. He has addressed or keynoted conferences for over 300 government departments, universities, NGOs, UN organizations, and/or corporations around the world on a variety of future-oriented topics. He has published over 100 future-oriented articles in such as the Nikkei, ADWEEK, International Tribune, LEADERS, New York Times, McGraw-Hill’s Contemporary Learning Series, Current, Royal Society of Arts (RSA) Journal, Foresight, Futures, Technological Forecasting, Futures Research Quarterly, and The Futurist. He is co-editor of Futures Research Methodology versions 1.0 to 3.0, author of Future Mind: Merging the Mystical and the Technological in the 21st Century (1989 & 1994), Linking the Future: Findhorn, Auroville, Arcosanti(1979), and co-author of Space Trek: The Endless Migration (1978 & 1979). Glenn has a BA in philosophy from American University, an MA in Teaching Social Science – Futuristics from Antioch Graduate School of Education (now Antioch University New England), and was a doctoral candidate in general futures research at the University of Massachusetts. He received the Donella Meadows Metal, Kondratieff Metal, Emerald Citation of Excellence, honorary professorship and doctor’s degrees from two universities in South America (Universidad Ricardo Palma and Universidad Franz Tamayo) and is a leading boomerang stunt man.

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About After Shock

The world’s foremost futurists reflect on 50 years of Future Shock—and look ahead to the next 50

Contributors include: Alan Kay Aaron Frank Adrienne Mayor Alexander Mankowsky Alexandra Ivanovitch Alisha Bhagat Amy Zalman Anders Sorman-Nilsson Andra Keay Andrew Curry Andy Hines Anita Sengupta Anne Lise Kjaer Aris Persidis Aubrey de Grey Barry O’Reilly Barry Vacker Bill Davidow Bill Diamond Bryan Alexander Byron Reese Carlos Osorio Carver Mead Cat Tully Cindy Frewen Clem Bezold Daniel Burrus Daniel Levine David Brin David Guston David Krakauer David J. Staley David Weinberger Deb Westphal Diane M. Francis Donna Dupont Eleanor “Nell” Watson Eric Daimler Erica Bol Erik Qualman Fotis Sotiropoulos George Gilder Grady Booch Gray Scott Hannes Sjoblad Harish Natarajan Hazel Henderson Helen Messier Ian Khan Ignacio Pena Jack Uldrich James Canton Jane McGonigal Jason Jackson Jason Schenker Jay Gambetta Jeff Eisenach Jeffrey C. Bauer Jerome Glenn Jerry Fishenden Joe Dispenza Joe Tankersley Joel Garreau John L. Petersen John M. Smart John Sack John Sanei John Schroeter Jonathan Venn José Morey Kaitlyn Sadtler Kirk Borne Klee Irwin Kris Østergaard Lisa Bodell Maciej Kranz Martin Guigui Martin Rees Maggie Greyson Michael Tomczyk Michel Laberge Mick Ebeling Moon Ribas Naveen Jain Neil Jacobstein Newt Gingrich Patricia Lustig & Gill Ringland Paul Saffo Paul Stimers Po Bronson & Arvind Gupta Ray Kurzweil Rebecca Costa Richard Browning Richard Slaughter Richard Watson Richard Yonck Rodrigo Nieto Gómez Rohit Bhargava Ross Dawson Ruth Miller Sanjiv Chopra & Pankaj K Vij Sohail Inayatullah Sridhar Mahadevan Stan Rosen Stephanie Mehta Steve Waite Tanya Accone Terrence (Terry) Sejnowski Teun Koetsier Theodore Jay Gordon Thomas Frey Timothy Chou Vikram Mansharamani Wolfgang Fengler Zoltan Istvan

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Welcome to a new episode of the Ian Khan Show. In this special “After Shock” series, I am interviewing with one of the worlds Top 50 futurists.

This week I am speaking to Thomas Frey, a globally recognised Futurist, Founder of the Davinci Institute and CSP.

About Thomas Frey

Thomas Frey is currently Google’s top-rated futurist speaker and IBM’s most award-winning engineer. As Founder and Executive Director of DaVinci Institute, Thomas has built an extensive following around the world based on his ability to uncover unique insights into the future, and describe the enormous opportunities that lie ahead. Having started seventeen businesses himself and assisting on the development of hundreds more, the understanding he brings to his audiences is a rare blend of reality-based thinking coupled with a clear-headed visualization of the world to come. Thomas has been featured in thousands of articles for both national and international publications. Each year his talks touch the lives of tens of thousands of people with his unique brand of customized presentations designed specifically around the needs of each and every audience.

You can find out more about Thomas at www.futuristspeaker.com

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About After Shock

The world’s foremost futurists reflect on 50 years of Future Shock—and look ahead to the next 50

Contributors include:

Alan Kay
Aaron Frank
Adrienne Mayor
Alexander Mankowsky
Alexandra Ivanovitch
Alisha Bhagat
Amy Zalman
Anders Sorman-Nilsson
Andra Keay
Andrew Curry
Andy Hines
Anita Sengupta
Anne Lise Kjaer
Aris Persidis
Aubrey de Grey
Barry O’Reilly
Barry Vacker
Bill Davidow
Bill Diamond
Bryan Alexander
Byron Reese
Carlos Osorio
Carver Mead
Cat Tully
Cindy Frewen
Clem Bezold
Daniel Burrus
Daniel Levine
David Brin
David Guston
David Krakauer
David J. Staley
David Weinberger
Deb Westphal
Diane M. Francis
Donna Dupont
Eleanor “Nell” Watson
Eric Daimler
Erica Bol
Erik Qualman
Fotis Sotiropoulos
George Gilder
Grady Booch
Gray Scott
Hannes Sjoblad
Harish Natarajan
Hazel Henderson
Helen Messier
Ian Khan
Ignacio Pena
Jack Uldrich
James Canton
Jane McGonigal
Jason Jackson
Jason Schenker
Jay Gambetta
Jeff Eisenach
Jeffrey C. Bauer
Jerome Glenn
Jerry Fishenden
Joe Dispenza
Joe Tankersley
Joel Garreau
John L. Petersen
John M. Smart
John Sack
John Sanei
John Schroeter
Jonathan Venn
José Morey
Kaitlyn Sadtler
Kirk Borne
Klee Irwin
Kris Østergaard
Lisa Bodell
Maciej Kranz
Martin Guigui
Martin Rees
Maggie Greyson
Michael Tomczyk
Michel Laberge
Mick Ebeling
Moon Ribas
Naveen Jain
Neil Jacobstein
Newt Gingrich
Patricia Lustig & Gill Ringland
Paul Saffo
Paul Stimers
Po Bronson & Arvind Gupta
Ray Kurzweil
Rebecca Costa
Richard Browning
Richard Slaughter
Richard Watson
Richard Yonck
Rodrigo Nieto Gómez
Rohit Bhargava
Ross Dawson
Ruth Miller
Sanjiv Chopra & Pankaj K Vij
Sohail Inayatullah
Sridhar Mahadevan
Stan Rosen
Stephanie Mehta
Steve Waite
Tanya Accone
Terrence (Terry) Sejnowski
Teun Koetsier
Theodore Jay Gordon
Thomas Frey
Timothy Chou
Vikram Mansharamani
Wolfgang Fengler
Zoltan Istvan

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Join me your host Ian Khan on my show “The Ian Khan Show” that brings you ideas that are changing the world and conversations with people who are changing the world ! In this week’s episode I talk about the Real Estate Industry and how a big shift can take place with Blockchain in creating more efficiency, faster transactions and a better framework for all. This also disrupts what Lawyers, Realtors and other parties do in a typical real estate transaction. This undoubtedly will create many new roles and job descriptions for professionals of today who rely on manual work to fulfil various tasks and roles.

In comments below let me know your thoughts and what you would like to see in Future Episodes.

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Hey Friend – Welcome to Episode 2 of the “Ian Khan Show”. Helping people and organizations succeed in today’s era of rapid change and disruption, in this show I talk about techniques and rituals that will take you on a path to success. In this episode join me as I speak about an ancient and even present day Japanese Method of Creating Purpose in life. This technique can be used by individuals, organizations, governments everyone alike. Join me your host Ian Khan on my show “The Ian Khan Show” that brings you ideas that are changing the world and conversations with people who are changing the world !

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Hey Friend – It is an exciting time today. We live in an unprecedented era of change, value creation and emerging technology. With this comes the challenge of being able to balance everything together and succeeding at what you strive for. This week i talk about three key technologies that I believe are pivotal to the majority of developments that we are likely to see in this world in the future. These are Internet of Things (IoT), Artificial Intelligence(AI) and Blockchain. Join me as I talk about what these three technologies do and how they may affect you in the future.

Join me your host Ian Khan on my show “The Ian Khan Show” that brings you ideas that are changing the world and conversations with people who are changing the world !

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Mariann Yeager, CEO at The Sequoia Project shared key insights with Technology Futurist and Host of Innovation Times, Ian Khan.

Mariann will deliver the closing keynote at the 2017 Infoway Partnership Conference, which will be held November 14 and 15 at the Westin Calgary Hotel.  

About Mariann Yeager

Mariann Yeager serves as CEO for The Sequoia Project, a non-profit 501c3 chartered to advance implementation of secure, interoperable nationwide health information exchange. The Sequoia Project supports multiple health IT interoperability initiatives, including the eHealth Exchange and Carequality, and is expanding its efforts to solve critical health data sharing challenges.

Under her leadership, the eHealth Exchange more than quadrupled connectivity in just 2 years, making it the largest network of its kind in the US, connecting almost 50% of all US hospitals and 100 million patients. Ms. Yeager also led the successful launch of Carequality, which interconnects data sharing networks using a national-level, consensus-driven approach, much like the telecommunications industry did for linking cell phone networks.

Ms. Yeager has more than 20 years of experience in the health IT field. Prior to The Sequoia Project, she worked with ONC for five years on ONC nationwide health information network initiatives. She also led the launch and operation of the first ambulatory and inpatient electronic health records (EHR) certification program in the US. Her prior experience also includes running the payer operations division for a large national healthcare clearinghouse, now Emdeon, as well as working at a leading national payer, CIGNA Healthcare.

About the Sequoia Project

The Sequoia Project is a non-profit public-private collaborative advancing secure, trusted and interoperable health information exchange nationwide. The Sequoia Project supports health IT interoperability initiatives, including: the eHealth Exchange, the country’s largest health data sharing network, connecting nearly 50% of all US hospitals, tens of thousands of medical groups for 100 million patients, Carequality, a multi-stakeholder initiative that enables health data sharing networks to interconnect much like the telecom industry did for linking cell phone networks and the RSNA Image Share Validation Program, which is an interoperability testing program to enable the sharing of medical images.

About the Infoway Partnership Conference

The 2017 Infoway Partnership Conference is an annual interoperability event designed to create a forum for knowledge exchange, debate and discussion through a showcase of digital health thought leadership and best practices. Join health care leaders and share their learning, discuss opportunities and address challenges to help transform health care delivery in Canada.

For more information visit http://sequoiaproject.org

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William Mougayar is one of world’s leading authority on Blockchain Technology. I had the opportunity to connect with him recently and bring some of his insights to my listeners through an interview on the Innovation Times podcast.

As a long time industry insider, William Mougayar is a prolific researcher, writer and theorist who has been described as the most sophisticated blockchain business thinker. His views and insights are well respected worldwide.

William is a direct participant in the crypto-technology market, working alongside startups, entrepreneurs, pioneers, leaders, innovators, creators, enterprise executives and practitioners; in addition to being an investor, advisor, and Board member in some of the leading organizations in this space.

William is the General Partner at Virtual Capital Ventures, an early stage venture capital fund, and currently on the Board of Directors of OB1, the OpenBazaar open source protocol that is pioneering decentralized peer-to-peer commerce, a Board Advisor to the Ethereum Foundation, a member of OMERS Ventures Board of Advisors, an Advisory Board member to the Coin Center and Bloq, and founder of Startup Management.

Previously, he held senior level positions at Hewlett-Packard, Cognizant and Aberdeen Group, and he founded 3 startups, CYBERManagement, Eqentia, and Engagio.

William is a graduate of the University of Washington, the University of Western Ontario Ivey School of Business, and attended the University of British Columbia Graduate Commerce School.

Twitter: @wmougayar
Blog: http://startupmanagement.org/blog/
Book site: http://thebusinessblockchain.com/

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I recently had the opportunity to speak with Dr. Joseph Kvedar of Partners Connected Health. Dr Kvedar is a pioneer in the industry and has put a significant effort over the last few decades to develop and promote technology within the North American healthcare sector.

About Joseph C. Kvedar, MD Vice President, Connected Health, Partners HealthCare

Long before the internet, health and wellness trackers, apps, sensors or smartphones even existed, Joe Kvedar was creating a new model of health care delivery, moving care from the hospital or doctor’s office into the day-to-day lives of patients. Joseph C. Kvedar, MD, Vice President, Connected Health, Partners HealthCare, is leveraging personal health technologies to improve care delivery and help providers and patients better manage chronic conditions, maintain health and wellness and improve adherence, engagement and clinical outcomes. Under Dr. Kvedar’s two decades of leadership, Partners Connected Health has launched a number of innovative health tracking programs, mobile health, virtual care initiatives and clinical research programs for the more than 1.5 million patients served at Partners HealthCare-affiliated hospitals, including Brigham and Women’s Hospital and Massachusetts General Hospital, community and specialty hospitals, community health centers, home care and other health-related entities. Connected health programs address a wide range of health challenges, from heart failure, hypertension and diabetes, to prenatal care, medication adherence, cancer pain management, teen asthma and smoking cessation . Partners Connected Health has also conducted seminal studies that have demonstrated the positive impact of personal health and wellness monitoring to promote and maintain healthy behaviors. Dr. Kvedar, who is internationally recognized as a pioneer and visionary in the field of connected health, has authored over 1000 publications on the subject. He serves as a strategic advisor at Qualcomm Life, West Health Institute, Puretech Ventures and BD Technologies, and is a mentor at Blueprint Health, providing guidance and insight to developing companies. Dr. Kvedar is also a mentor at the Harvard Innovation Lab and serves as a judge for its President’s Challenge for Entrepreneurship. Based on the technology platform developed at Partners Connected Health, a personalized health technology company was launched and later acquired by a leading insurance company to support its program encouraging healthy behavior and wellness education among employee populations. In 2013, Dr. Kvedar launched Wellocracy, a leading source of impartial, easy-to-understand information on new personal “self-health” technologies like activity trackers, wireless devices and mobile apps to empower people to get and stay healthy.

For more information please visit http://theinternetofhealthythings.com/

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I met with Teri Carden, founder of reviewmyams.com and 100Reviews.com at #ASAE2017 . I asked her about her journey of becoming one of the industry’s ONLY software review platforms and helping create transparency, trust and value to the world of associations. Great insights and incredible story of ingenuity, purpose and helping others.

More about Teri at www.reviewmyams.com or on Twitter @TeriTally and @ReviewMyAMS
More about Ian Khan at www.iankhan.com

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I met with Reggie Henry, Chief Information Officer and Chief Engagement Officer at ASAE and talked about some of the technology challenges that associations face and how to address them.

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For more information about ASAE please visit www.asae.org

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The #ASAE2017 conference attracted almost 5000 professionals form the associations worldwide. A key event for associations, the #ASAE2017 conference was well recieved and attended.

Ian Khan met with John Graham CEO of ASAE and talked about the future of associations, challenges and opportunities. Watch this informative episode or listen on iTunes, GooglePlay or TuneInRadio.

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For more information about ASAE please visit www.asae.org

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I met with Best Selling author and thought leader Nilofer Merchant at the #ASAE2017 conference in Toronto, Canada. We talked about the idea of Onlyness and why change begins from within. Nilofer shares her insights and ideas in a meaningful conversation with the Innovation Times Show.

Nilofer Merchant www.nilofermerchant.com
Ian Khan at www.iankhan.com

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The ASAE Annual conference 2017 is going to be held in Toronto. Talking about connecting people, the annual conference could not have been in any other city, as Toronto has the best of food, weather and a reputation for connecting people from all over the world.

I met with John Graham, CEO & President of ASAE and managed to get some insights about the world of Associations, Technology and the future of connecting people.

About John Graham

JOHN H. GRAHAM IV, FASAE, CAE became the President and Chief Executive Officer of ASAE August 1, 2003. During the first year of his tenure, ASAE and GWSAE completed an historic merger resulting in a new, unified organization. ASAE is more than 21,000 association executives and industry partners representing 10,000 organizations. Our members manage leading trade associations, individual membership societies, and voluntary organizations across the United States and in 50 countries around the globe, as well as provide products and services to the association community.

Before ASAE, he served the American Diabetes Association (ADA) in Alexandria, Virginia for 24 years, the last thirteen as Chief Executive Officer. Prior to becoming CEO, John served the ADA in numerous capacities including Executive Director of the Greater Philadelphia Affiliate, National Director of Affiliate Development, Associate Executive Vice President for Operations and Deputy Executive Vice President. In his tenure as CEO, ADA quadrupled in size, from $50 million to $200 million in annual revenues and successfully moved from 53 independent, separately incorporated affiliate organizations to one nationwide organization with one staff, one budget and one plan.

Before joining the American Diabetes Association, John served the Boy Scouts of America for nine years. He has a bachelor’s degree from Franklin & Marshall College and serves on the Association Committee of 100, US Chamber of Commerce; Chairman of the Better Business Bureau Mobile Giving Foundation Board of Directors; and the boards of directors of Lambda Chi Alpha fraternity and the National Capital Area Boy Scouts of America.

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I met Dr. Hay at the eHealth Canada 2017 Conference and learnt a bit more about his vision for the future and HealthTech in the future.

About Dr. David Hay

Dr. David Hay is a Product Strategist at Orion Health and is largely responsible for product innovation, development and prototyping, with a particular focus on Interopreability. He has a clinical background having worked as a Primary Care Physician, and is also the standards expert at Orion, is active in the international standards community and is the current Chair of HL7 New Zealand. David is also a co-chair of the FHIR Management Group, and is an active blogger about FHIR at fhirblog.com.

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I met Dr. Julielynn Wong at the eHealth Canada 2017 conference. We talked about the world of 3D printing and the true value created by this innovative area of new tech. A pioneer in the world of 3D printing, Dr Wong has been at the forefront of the medical 3D printing revolution.

About Dr Julielynn Wong

Julielynn is an award-winning, Harvard educated physician-scientist, innovator, and educator whose life’s mission is to use technology to benefit the world. She is internationally recognized as a 3D printing, drone, robotics, telemedicine and digital health pioneer who uses cutting-edge technology to deliver healthcare solutions in diverse environments, from outer space to remote communities with limited access to healthcare resources.  She was the first to 3D print medical supplies onboard the International Space Station and at the Mars Desert Research Station.  She designed a solar-powered mobile 3D printing system that can be transported in a carry-on suitcase to produce medical supplies in remote, off-grid communities.  Julielynn regularly lectures on innovation in healthcare and is a frequent contributor to various media outlets including ABC News, Forbes, and the Huffington Post.

3D4MD was conceived by Dr. Julielynn Wong in 2011. 3D4MD combines a wealth of practical clinical knowledge, advanced qualifications, and a crowd-sourcing innovation process to address some of the most difficult healthcare problems faced in remote and challenging places to work.  3D4MD is a for-profit social enterprise whose mission is to use 3D printing, drones, and other low-cost technologies to make sustainable solutions to reduce poverty and deliver healthcare in the most challenging places to those who need it the most.  We are always seeking corporations, foundations, and organizations who share our vision and want to provide social investment to impact over 1 billion lives. We provide high-quality products, services, programs and events to generate revenue to support our humanitarian projects to save lives, time, and money.

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Chris Hobson and I had a great chat at eHealth Canada 2017 just a few weeks ago. He shared his vision of the future and what technology is bringing to the table when it comes to changing the outcomes of traditional healthcare industry.

Dr. Chris Hobson, MD MBA is the Chief Medical Officer and chief privacy Officer with Orion Health. He had key areas of responsibility for the clinical direction of Orion Health products and solutions, and ensures the protection of patient safety and privacy in everything Orion Health does. He is a primary care practitioner and internist certified in healthcare informatics. He has extensive international clinical, technical and policy-level expertise, drawing from his background successfully developing and implementing health information technology globally. He is a regular presenter at industry events internationally; in addition to his responsibilities for patient safety and privacy, he has active interests in care coordination, population health and disease management.

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I had the opportunity of meeting Fatima Paruk of Allscripts at eHealth Canada 2017 in Toronto. With a global experience and a great personality, Fatima told us about what is happening at Allscripts and where the industry is headed.

Fatima Paruk, Principal Outcomes Consultant, Analytic Admin

Fatima Paruk, M.D., MPH, is the Chief Medical Officer at Allscripts Analytics. She provides medical leadership to a world-class team to develop, design and deploy predictive models to improve health. She is a physician and public health specialist that has been extensively involved in health systems and global surgical initiatives. She established Kenya’s injury surveillance system, has worked to identify gaps in care and promote hospital quality improvement. In addition to her executive role, Fatima remains committed to disaster response and recently authored Kenya’s National EMS policy.

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I am very excited on this month’s episode as I have two very prominent guests on the show. Enjoy !

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In this episode we have some great content lined up. I recently attended the B.Con (Branded Content) conference by Strategy in Toronto and met with the leaders of the content industry today. with hundreds of conversations during the show its sometimes hard to remember people but i wanted to send out a special shout out to the ladies at lunch and hope they are listening to this episode.

In today’s episode speak with three influences who in their own way are leading content within their industry.

I first speak to Robert Rose, keynote speaker at the conference about his ideology and insights. I then speak with Harry Brisson from Nielsens Media Lab. In the end you will listen to my interview with Katrina Craigwell, Director Global Innovation at GE Digital.

Throughout all these conversations there is one thing that resonated clearly and that is the need of branded content within any industry that you play in. Content today, as every presentation resonated, had moved from being a one off event to being a constantly updating aspect of brands. The example of L’Oreal Canada was just one of the exemplary sessions that spoke about how they have changed the way they generate content though a new revolutionary and agile model.

So without any further ado,lets listen to my conversations at the conference.

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The National Crowdfunding Association of Canada Conference a few weeks ago in Toronto was a hit. I met with Crowdfunding fanatics, experts and people who are a big part of the industry. Overall, a very well put together event, the biggest takeaway was the quality of sessions and conversations. From Venture funds to Angels to Crowdfunding platforms, the conference was definitely a highlight of the Canadian Crowdfunding Industry in 2016.

I met with a number of people at the event and has the pleasure of having in depth conversations with three disruptors in the industry. I first spoke with Arti Modi, CEO and Co-Founder of LendingArch, a Calgary based financing platform. Arti share some key insights about how the industry is being affected by Millennials as an example and what their company is doing differently that taps into an underserved market. More details on LendingArch at www.lendingarch.com

I also spoke with Founders of Canadas Only Luxury Electric Sports Vehicle, a huge disruptor that is taking the route of Equity Crowdfunding to raise over $25 Million. Both Mike and Mario shared their insights into the automobile industry with a touch on technology and crowdfunding and why their choices of taking the equity crowdfunding route was the best decision they could make. More details on this revolutionary global phenomenon with its home right here in Canada at www.dubucmotors.com

Lastly I spoke with Peter-Paul Van Hoeken, Founder & CEO of FrontFundr, a Vancouver based Crowdfunding platform that launched a new offering during the Conference. Peter provided his insights about new regulations, traditional funding methods and how the process of raising capital has changed to Crowdfunding. More details on www.frontfundr.com

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With so much innovation going on around us, funding the cause is one of the top priorities of any entrepreneur. With popular crowdfunding websites like Kickstarter, Indiegogo and many others, entrepreneurs, inventors, designers and fanatical believers of their products have created a new niche of raising funds to make their dreams a reality. As opposed to traditional financing and even newer financial models that include Venture capital, this is the world of crowdfunding.

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Are you a winner? Are you someone that always gets what they want? Are you one of those people who do what they set their eyes on no matter what the circumstances? If you answered yes to all of these questions then you are among the highly successful people in the world that have a proven formula for success. If you did not answer yes not all of these questions, you are part of the other majority in the world that tries to succeed but has good and bad days. This post is for the majority- because have some catch-up to do.

Success is not magic or sorcery. Success has also nothing to do with luck. For someone to be lucky would mathematically be attributed to chance or probability almost every single time. Luck is also a factor that happens when we get or are presented with an opportunity. “I found a great job. I got lucky”, or “I found the best tickets, I got lucky”. These are terms commonly used to define a stroke of luck, but these are nothing but opportunities where you got favored through chance or probability theory. But that’s not necessarily a bad thing. You can still say you got lucky. No harm done.

Success, chance, opportunity or probability? Being successful to most of the part is an art. It’s a defined series of steps or actions that must take place in order to yield results that you then call success. Sometimes success is also failing, if that was your goal in the first place. So in addition to being relative how you define it and how you view success in the specific situation, let’s assume that for the sake of this blog, success is gaining or achieving something that you are working towards. It could be monetary, financial, career, professional or personal goal that you have set your eyes and mind to. So what would it take to be successful? How can we have just one formula to succeed at everything? Is it even possible to succeed at everything with just one frame of mind? Yes it is. Here is how.

1. Plan Your Success Planning is a key part of success. Everyone we know as successful have achieved success through careful planning. Ye I can guarantee that. Take a look around and look at people in your circle, your community your city that are highly successful. Every one of them succeeded because of a plan, each being unique to that individual. Highly successful people have the habit of planning the steps they need to take to succeed and the collection of these steps is the plan. A plan usually has a few moving parts. As you start you need to create key milestones in your plan. These are things that stand out as important things that must happen as your plan takes place. You also need to have a timeline of when things should happen in your plan. This is called your timeline, and lastly what the end result of your plan should be. Without identifying these, your plan is as good as a sand castle. Success has a much higher chance of happening if planned properly.
2. Respect Time Everytime Time and tide wait for none. This saying stands true no matter what year it is or what place on earth you live on. Time has been called and known as the most precious commodity in the world. Given that you have planned your steps to success, most of the times it is helpful to have a set defined time with your plan. A set time for success will give you the right direction and help you put together the right resources. Planning time is also key to being able to set your milestones. Respect time as the ultimate governor of success.
3. Monitor Progress Planning your steps and allocating time to your success is not enough if you do not have a mechanism to measure your progress. Measuring results, progress or the lack of are important to gauge how your plans to succeed are going. Perhaps you are short of time and need to work extra hard or maybe you are far ahead of the curve and need to slow down a little. It could also be that you are far ahead in your plan but have not hit any milestones yet, which could be a cause for concern. No matter what it is, you have to be able to monitor your progress at a regular basis.

Bonus Step
Planning your success, setting a timeline and measuring progress are the foundation of achieving any goal. What adds to this trifecta of success is creative visualization. Now we are not talking about any voodoo magic or like, but actually visualizing how your plan is going to execute and visualizing yourself achieving success at every step. Visualizing has been used as a success aid for many decades in areas such as high performance sports, business and other areas to drive people to that extra mile towards success. Don’t feel shy to take a few minutes away from your time to visualize your success and how it makes you feel. It will definitely add a new dimension to your skills.

Let’s Plan Your Success
No matter what your goal, success can be made much more planned, and when it’s planned it has a much higher probability of happening. Success is a process that can be defined, a result that can be made more probable by planning, and a series of steps that can be executed. Keep in mind that the weakest link in your success is going to be how detailed your planning is and how you measure up to the tasks of creating a timeline and following through. Remember, you can be successful at anything, provided you define what success for you is and that you take the right steps towards it. Lastly about being lucky, maybe you can define that for someone after you have succeeded through the three steps and help them understand how true luck happens.

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You have probably heard this a hundred times, “you have got to work smart not hard to succeed”.

How do you define working smart though? Would working smart mean less work and not working hard to be smart? If we work hard does that have nothing to do with working smart? Do smart people not work hard? or do hard workers not work smartly ? Confusing, right! Let’s take a deeper look.

Traditionally, working hard is considered to be the cornerstone of achievement. You work hard at something, burn midnight oil, sweat and out run everyone else around you, to reach your goal. Maybe it’s school, or grad school, or looking for a job. Maybe its learning a new skill, or improving an existing one for that manner.

It has been well known, said a hundred thousand times and drilled into our heads – “if you want to succeed, work hard”. “You have to burn midnight oil”. “Life is not easy, you have to work very hard to achieve something “. I completely am a fan of this thought, yet so many us miserably fail at achieving our goal even after working so hard at it. We sometimes fall just short by inches, left to bite the dust. I have personally tasted this failure, even though I worked so hard at things. I just did not succeed.

What was wrong? Was I not working hard? I was working very hard ! So what was wrong! Oh no, Was it about being smart ?

Being smart is about making smart choices. Its about making the right decision, the right step or the right choice. Smart people move up the ladder real fast. They also are the ones that have great cars, lot of money, and everything else the rest of us desire. Right?

These are people that played smart and won big times. Seems so easy. But does that also mean they did not work hard to be where they are. Consider some very famous people, your idols, and your heroes. Did they just work smart and not hard? My honest opinion. They worked very hard. They worked so hard that we cannot even imagine what they went though. People who are successful in business life, work, or a profession typically go through hell before they can reap the rewards of success.

Take the example of musicians. Training for 8 to 12 hours a day is not uncommon among the top highly paid musicians in the world. Similarly performers, artists, professionals spend hundreds of hours honing their skills, without taking any shortcuts to perfect their art and to stay at the top. As you reach the pinnacle of success, you start making less mistakes. As you grow more experienced, you make less errors, and this results in something that saves you a lot of time, effort and energy. You have now become smart. You now make smart choices. You now play smart!

Working hard or working smart cannot be separated from each other. Even when working hard you have to make smart choices. You cannot just wake up one day and say to yourself, “Today I will make smart choices”. No, you should be saying that to yourself every day and work “hard” on it.

Give anything your best shot and work towards your goals like there is no tomorrow. Be strong willed and work hard to get what you want, because the desire to achieve something is only as strong as the smallest distraction that can take you away from it. Be smart about setting your goals and planning how to achieve your goal. Be smart about making choices in life and then work on making those choice spring you good things. Work hard in making smart choice and work even harder to learn how to make smart choices. Make mistakes but be smart enough to learn from them.

Try to be smart in making your choices in life and work hard towards fulfilling your dreams !

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